Scott F.

Good to hear. I broke the fast this morning. Mostly because we have a family gathering tomorrow night and I don't come out of the fasts as well as I would like. If I waited til tonight or tomorrow I would be "loose" in and around the gathering. It lasted 62 hours or thereabouts. I went with the boiled eggs and a couple pieces of sausage and when I woke up this afternoon it was better than previous attempts. I think I just struggle with food on a completely empty stomach/empty system. But, so it goes. Scott

I look forward to those improvements if they eventually happen. But, if I get any smarter my wife is going to kick me out. Just saying. Scott

Patience may be the hardest part. I will only speak for me, but I pounded my body for a lot of years with a dumpster diet and weighed well over 300lbs. I lost weight rather quickly and seen some positives before I even knew they were coming but it took six-plus months before my blood panels (auto-immune markers) began to move. I was not very patient with my progress once the progress started, if that makes any sense at all. Here are the three things I had to do early on. Eat more and make sure the fat content was higher. I struggle to eat enough now after 17 months. One steak and I am good til the next day, or even longer. So sometimes I feel like I need to eat just to be eating. Hydration and electrolytes. I only eat meats, salts and water but early on I didn't add salt or electrolytes like I should, and I paid for it with being unexpectedly tired and just didn't have the get up and go at all. Once I figured out salt and electrolytes the energy returned. Not like crazy, off the wall type energy but a steady state of sustained energy. Sleep. I still struggle here. I sleep really well since carnivore but I am a life-long shift worker with erratic sleep schedules. Since carnivore when I wake up, I wake up and there is no going back to sleep so if that is 1AM, then 1AM is the start of my day. I feel like I often fall short on sleep. Hope this helps. Good luck. Scott

This is a good place to drop by. Most here go carnivore but most definitely not the carnivore police. LOL Welcome. Share your story. Scott

It either simply looks really good or it looks really good because I haven't eaten since Tuesday night. Maybe a bit of both. Scott

No doubts. I started the same. My roads are both hilly and curvy as well. I have since added air squats and pushups. I set my phone to five minutes and do 10-15 squats and 15-20 pushups every 5 minutes along the hour walk. The next day I wear a 40lb weighted vest. Then alternate. It has been a process. LOL Scott

Interested as well. We eat fresh-caught salmon once or week, sometime twice so I feel like I hit the Omega 3 target fairly well. I just started reading about supplementing collagen but have not decided if I need it much less an actual product. Looking myself. Scott

Congrats. I think walking is still far under-rated for overall health and effectiveness. Maybe not under-rated but more it does not look like it would be near as effective and beneficial as it turns out. I try to walk for time and distance most every day. Congrats on turning some medical stuff around and ditching some medicine. Being able to ditch medicine has been my highlight since starting some 17 months ago. People see the weight loss and we normally talk about the weight loss first but over time the health improvements from eating this way outshines the weight loss (at least for me anyway). Again, congrats. Job well done. Keep it going. Scott

I'm sort of jealous/envious I think. As crazy as that sounds. I can't eat like that anymore. Carnivore has not curbed my appetite but basically destroyed it. But considering the foods I was eating then that can only be a good thing. LOL I can remember re-reading a post or rewinding one of the Monday evening talks just to see if people actually said what I thought I heard. Eating 2-3lbs of meat at a time is something I could do before, with a baked potato, green beans, several glasses of sweet tea, a dessert and a bedtime snack later that night. Now if I get down a 16oz. ribeye it is 24+ hours before I want to even look at food, much less eat it. Anytime you guys post eating north of 2 pounds in a meal I just go WOW!. Scott

Pretty cool you and your wife can do it together. Almost like 'in-house support'. I'm a big fan. I have yet to nail down the ending of the fasting, but I guess I will eventually get there. I'm about 27-28 hours deep. At this point it is sort of like a normal day. I do feel a tad bit hungry, but I think it may be mental. If I did not say I was 'fasting' out loud I would eat about every 24 hours anyway and not be hungry at all. Not sure. Good luck with the Wednesdays. I'm sure it will be just as effective. Scott

Impressive. Scott

Double post: My Neurologist said he wasn't ready to prescribe carnivore to his MS and NMO/SD patients but based on where I was and where I am, he would be happy if his other patients took my approach. I can appreciate the reservations because the world jumped on board to a crappy way of eating via excellent marketing and scare tactics. Look at most everyone around, it worked like a dream. Back to the topic of the thread: Nothing. Notta. Zero. Zilch. Pitching a shutout today. Kicked off my monthly water fast. Scott

Nothing wrong with a vent here and there. LOL I get it. If there is one part of the process that gets me a tad bit irritated is the order in which my appointments/infusions go. I see the Neurologist first thing, walk down the hall for bloodwork and then the 6+ hour infusion. I would rather have the bloodwork first, come back so we have something to talk about and then use the information to make the call on the infusion. Prior to carnivore when I thought the infusions would be life-long, it didn't bother me as much, thinking I would be having the infusions regardless. Fast forward to 12 months into carnivore and having the infusion before the bloodwork is reviewed feels like taking medicine but not really knowing if I'm sick, just taking the medicine. The frustrations are real. Scott

Welcome back. I don't think there is much of the carnivore police here. LOL Based loosely on your account, i would imagine the beans and mushrooms 1-2 times a week is better than you are doing right now. Improvements are improvements, regardless. Congrats on making the decision to give it another go. Best of luck. Scott

Wishing the best for him/for you, Do your best and hopefully the burrito is not the long term answer. Good luck. Scott

Good to hear. For me, mostly because I am dumb like that, in the near future I would ease up on the supplements I just added to see if the issue returns. If so, then I need that new amount. If not, it could be something else and the electrolytes and extra hydration is hiding it. (I'm not much on medicine at all, so I need to know I am not just taking something to be taking something. Again, 'cause I'm dumb like that, LOL) But it is great to hear you worked thru the issue and got to better ground. Always good to hear when something works out to the good. Scott

Good luck. Chasing issues sometimes is worse than the issues themselves. LOL Scott

I am not sure I have had any of the 'brain improvements' people mention with carnivore. I am sure I have but just not recognized them. Maybe the closest to mental clarity is that when I wake up, I wake up. And unfortunately, there is no going back to sleep. If I wake up at 1AM or 2AM that is pretty much where my day starts. The ability to wake up and go is great but coupled with having the irregular sleep patterns of a life-long rotating swing shift worker....carnivore can have some drawbacks. If I were to point to carnivore I would go not enough and not eating enough fat. But most of us have enough fat to supply the brain in the 'leanest' of times. Good luck. Hopefully you can narrow it down. Scott

Maybe, maybe not. I don't think it is a bad idea to add some of the electrolytes back, especially if you are sweating and exerting energy. Keeping hydration and electrolytes correct is as essential as it gets. I get the 'ansy', maybe could be described as 'jittery', feelings when my sugar drops into the 80's. If stays in the 80's/90's during the day I don't have any issues, but if gets to the 80's, especially in the mornings, I have a feeling similar to what you describe. Stay on top of it and maybe it is nothing more than some healing and some adjusting. Scott

Welcome. The results will be very individualistic. We don't all respond the same, especially the same rates. In general, as Bob said, most can expect weight loss and for most it is accelerated compared to other "diets". Glucose and blood pressure numbers normally drop as we get away from the sugars and the inflammatory foods we have always eaten. As Bob said, cholesterol can do any number of things. Most are using carbs and sugars for energy, coupled with a statin, the cholesterol numbers can be driven down. Once on carnivore the body switches to primarily fat for energy, dabbles in and out of the lower ends of ketosis, and the ketones in the body increase. The two positives from ketones is sustained energy (for most) and the brain fog/brain clarity a lot of people talk about. During this time the body is using fat as energy in an accelerated weight so at any given time there could be more 'fat/cholesterol' in the bloodstream. Cholesterol numbers could go up but once on carnivore and fat adaptive it is not the 'big-bad-scary LDL' we have been programmed to believe. Good luck. And welcome. I'm about 18 months in now and it was one of the better decisions I ever made ( making it sound like I made a decision with some facts and research and look smart but not so much, I stumbled upon it as nothing more than a weight loss hack. Then all these metabolic improvements started and within weeks I was healing but I totally stumbled upon the rewards. The good Lord looks after drunks and fools-and I quit drinking over 20 years ago so that sort of narrows it down, LOL) Scott

Coastal SC is one of the hottest places on the planet. Most look at the thermometer and say, "Just 94F" but it is not just 94. LOL I lived in Louisiana on the water and in a small hole in the wall town in Texas for a bit and was stationed in California. I spent time in the Middle East as well. SC is the only place I have ever been where you can hold the air in your hand. It is that thick with humidity. Go ahead a get another drink of water while we are talking about it. You will need it. Scott

Much respect for your opinion and your approach. I'm not very political and maybe not as religious as I should be. I come here for the 'meat talk' as well but I do enjoy/participate when the subjects get away from carnivore-when they interest me. I guess I am a big fan of communication. For me, the Charlie Kirk post is no different than a post about fasting or electrolytes, working/working a rotating shift schedule, or Super Bowl commercials. I can be somewhat hypocritical, I enjoy my privacy but am genuinely interested in how/what other people think. Sometimes the topics or the subject matter is just the means to the communication. Again, much respect for your opinion. LOL-Your post way back about finding a new pharmacy and then posting a pic of a meat store is probably my favorite since being on the board. I don't think that way but enjoyed the fact you did. I get there was some 'meat reference' there but for me the pharmacy thought process came from left field. I enjoy that. Scott

I didn't really like the taste of the LMNT packs I tried so I could not really say if they did anything to me personally. Off the top of my head, I would guess that shouldn't be your issues and secondly, and maybe more importantly, is if you are loose drinking water is still needed. Loose and diarrhea can lead to dehydration which could cause any number of issues. I will venture a guess it is a combination of what you are eating and not so much when you eat but how often. Most people on the Standard American Diet eat at a frequency that the stomach never really empties. With carnivore, and especially the satiety of meat(s), sometimes we don't eat enough or often enough in the beginning. The looseness could be from food landing on an empty stomach, and the body has not yet adjusted to the 'new way'. To get no more done than I do in a day, I am the busiest person in the world (LOL) and me saying 'it takes time' is really ironic because I struggle when someone gives me that answer. No matter how right they are. Everyone is different and responds differently to carnivore. I didn't ease into the change in diet but just dove in headfirst. I think a lot of my early issues around my stool would have been better if I had thought eased into the diet, changed what I was eating slower and kept something on my stomach a little longer. Similar, but not the same, I am a big fan of water fasting. I have done several 72-hour plus fasts. I have yet to figure out how to come off the fast. I have tried eating a number of different things as well as changing the initial amounts, trying several different combinations. I am loose every time food, any amount or any kind or any combination, hits my empty stomach. It takes me a couple days to get things lined back out to "my normal". Good luck. Hope things swing your way. Scott

Congrats and welcome. I can only speak for me personally. I have had bouts with constipation but most of the time it has been the lack of fats. I have adjusted proteins up and down trying to hit protein targets for muscle gains. In some of those times I concentrated on hitting protein targets to the point I sort of lost any and all forms of fat to protein ratios. This led to some constipation issues for me. Once I upped my fat content to a higher fat/moderate protein approach the bathroom issues sort of fixed themselves. Carnivore can exploit out individualism as it does not affect everyone the same nor at the same rate. The healing starts quickly for most every one but the total adjustments can vary. Sometimes the variance is by the personal health or the dietary habits, but mostly a combination of the two. After the individualism part of carnivore the most important thing to remember is that the carnivore approach is much more about what is not being eaten more so than the foods being eaten. I don't see anything wrong with eating vegetables or fruits but vegetables and fruits were never meant to be chemically treated so they can be shipped all over the country/all over the world year around. Vegetables and fruits can be used to supplement the diet on occasion but I don't feel like they should be a staple of a diet nor should the percentages be very high at all. I believe a person has to figure out which approach works best for them and strict carnivore, which works for me, may not work for everyone. It also may be best to ease into the change vs. going strict carnivore all at once. Good luck. This is a great place to research as well as ask questions. Scott

Congrats on starting carnivore. I'm only 18 months in but the rewards have been tremendous. This is a good place to read, learn and exchange ideas. Tons of experience and knowledge floating around in this forum. Good luck in your research and if it does not jump out to you, ask the question. No one here really minds re-hashing old topics for newer people. Scott