Scott F.

Somewhat in the same boat as Bob. I am pretty much happy with my weight after dropping 90-95lbs and bouncing around in the 85-90lb lost range. I'm still working out but eating way more than I really need to be eating. The 'last few pounds' usually land around visceral fat and this can be difficult to lose. (I am about to attempt to drop 10-15lbs of mine). I'm going to use fasting, somewhat more aggressive, than what I have been doing the last few months. Currently, I fast from 48-72-96 hours every other month, or so. Sometimes plans and life get in the way of the fasting but I am going to change that starting this week. Instead of fasting every other month and then eating to gain muscle (extra proteins) when not fasting I'm going to fast and then go back to eating when I am hungry, which I think/hope will gradually shift back to once a day. (since using the protein powders and the protein drinks the little bit of sugar has sparked an appetite I didn't have the first 10-12 months eating carnivore and today I can eat bigger meals and even twice per day). I am not sure if fasting works for a lot of people but it has worked wonders for me. Scott

I think anytime a group eats in a strict form, or an extreme way, there can be shortcomings, both real and perceived. To some the carnivore approach is crazy. Remember, to a lot of groups we are the weirdos. LOL For some the strict carnivore diet is not the way to go, others see benefit from morphing from carnivore toward a low carb keto approach and others see improvements when coming off low carb keto to carnivore. I happen to benefit from going cold turkey from a complete trash diet to a strict carnivore diet which eventually evolved to a carnivore lifestyle. I think anyone that ditches the processed foods and sugars get healthier, regardless of what their diet is called. Along the way they may need to supplement or make some adjustments but staying away from the garbage seems to work for most everyone. In this particular case I think the issue was not an all-fruit diet but an actual eating disorder/mental health issue. This was a slow demise and unfortunately no one was able to intervene/convince her to make better decisions. Scott

I think that is where I fall as well. I have seen milk trigger a stall and when weight loss was a goal I limited the milk for the most part. I don't think I ever totally eliminated it but I can see where it could be a problem. It is indeed nature's weight gainer as that is what the good lord intended it for, to grow babies. (and it will 'grow' adults as well, the difference being babies grow up and adults grow out) I have some pounds to go with visceral fat and some body composition. I actually started drinking more milk to head off some weight loss a few months ago, and it worked. I stalled my weight loss around 95lbs and gained about 10 back to bounce around the 85–90-pound total loss since starting carnivore. I'm using it now a little more often but not like it is a staple of my daily food intake. Sometimes, I simply like a glass of milk. Scott

Yep. I think it was as much the eating disorder as what she was actually eating. She could have picked all vegetables or all roots or all just about anything and found troubles. I would venture a guess to say it was the fact it was an eating disorder because she never recognized she was orchestrating her own demise. Thoughts and prayers for her, her friends and her family. Hopefully there is a lesson learned. Scott

WOW! So my question is that this didn't happen overnight and I would have to think someone said something? At some point a person has to look in the mirror and see the results of their choices. I have lost as much as 95lbs, to the point I did look sickly. I had been really sick a few years prior and I had a bunch of people both ask and think I was sick all over again. I wonder how many people tried to intervene as her decisions to a long time to get her to the end. Scott

I have never been one to set goals or even make plans. "Me and life" find a way to trash out even the best made plans. I go with a different approach. I start off with 'this is what I am going to do' and then go from there. I have lost as much as 95lbs, bouncing around 85-90 lost today and I'm going to attack visceral fat around the gut and change my body composition some more. I am not sure what that new number will be as I will be trying to add muscle as some of the fat goes away. If the composition changes the number will be no more than a number. From there I will continue with the carnivore approach and focus a bit more on red meat and adding more fish. Scott

Agreed. I am pretty sure I have been carnivore the last 19 months. When I got rid of all the other garbage in my diet it is really easy to see the effects of what I do eat. I feel better on longer stretches of red meats. Pork is not as satiating for me as red meat and I can eat more chicken/pork per sitting than I can red meat. I found that milk will put the brakes on weight loss for me but haven't had any other ill effects from drinking milk. (and I like it too) I morphed all that into my current eating habits. I call it carnivore. Maybe I'm off the mark to some. LOL Scott

Agreed. I made the tallow a couple days before and thought we were on the same page. I get home and see peanut oil jugs. I am pretty sure a couple three times over 19 months is not going to do me in, or be the straw that broke the camels back, but once you learn something one can't un-ring that bell. I thought the tallow fried turkey tasted better. Could have been a mind thing for me but I am pretty sure I felt a little better about it. LOL Scott

So how, exactly, do you feel about seed oils? LOL Agreed. I haven't had but a tad of seed oils in the last 19 months. We have eaten out two or three times over that period, one they were nice enough to scrape the grill and cook in butter, the second time they said they did but they didn't and the third time I didn't bother asking. We don't eat out hardly ever, even before carnivore. We have a cabin next to the house and it has turned out to be everyone's favorite place to go. We always ask, "wanna go out to eat tonight?", "maybe, but I will be good with a steak on the grill out at the cabin" and then., "the cabin it is". My son deep fried a turkey for Thanksgiving and it was pretty good cooked in peanut oil. I fried one the following Saturday in tallow I had made and I "think' mine tasted better but several could not tell the difference. But I agree, seed oils are no good. Scott

I never totally gave up milk (some dairy) except for in the very beginning of switching to carnivore. I learned about the diet on one evening and started a strict carnivore approach the next morning. So much so, I didn't realize that the majority of the salt in my diet was coming from the processed crap I was eating. I got off on both hydration and electrolytes the first week or so. The first videos I watched trying to learn a little more were somewhere between "anti-milk to every so often but not recommended". I ditched the milk altogether for a stretch. Then over time I started back with a glass here and a glass there. For me, if I were losing weight between a 1/2 to 1 pound per day all it would take was a glass or two of milk and I was immediately in a "stall". Back when weight loss was the only real goal I had with carnivore I spaced the milk out when I did drink a glass. One glass I would get a lull in the weight loss and a second glass during that lull put the brakes on any weight loss, and at times adding a pound or so back. Fast forward to trying to build muscle while still on the carnivore diet I started drinking more milk. I use it to mix protein powder to get the protein grams per pound up. I'm still strict on what I eat with zero fruits and zero vegetables and the sugar I eat is limited to the milk and the protein supplements. I sort of semi-cycle on and off the protein supplements, somewhere around monthly. The milk goes along with that. I have added some muscle and lost a lot of fat but still have some visceral fat I would like to lose but feel like I am in a pretty good spot. In early '24 I was over 320 and have been as low as 210 and now bounce around between 215 and 221. (with milk and protein). The monthly fasting drops my weight several pounds close to the 210 mark and then I eat, supplement and drink milk back to >215. Some muscle and some fat. I feel like milk is working for me. Scott

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Keep going. In the first month you are still adjusting. Increasing the proteins in your diet and removing the carbs probably moved you into ketosis. Mine made a jump in the early months but fell back to normal. Then recently it pushed just outside the normal limit but I have been eating a lot of protein as of late. I don't do organ meats and I make sure I hydrate throughout the day. When I eat normal amounts of protein and hydrate my number drops back. Not sure if this helps but I have seen my uric number inch up and down over the last 18-19 months. Scott

I'm neither diabetic nor do I have kidney related issues. Hopefully Bob sees this and responds. Kidney issues are in his wheelhouse. Several members of the board have discussed the positive effects of the carnivore way of eating. Hopefully they chime in as well. Scott

Welcome. Good luck with their schooling. Scott

Let's start off with saying in August of 2018 I was simply fat, dumb and happy. I was in the 320's, never really had blood sugar nor blood pressure issues but the cholesterol had been ever increasing thru my upper forties. Around the time I turned 49 the doctor convinced me to give the statins a try, I forget which one, but I picked up the prescription. About the third day I started to feel funny, and by the fourth to the fifth day I had every side effect listed. When I googled the medicine it listed the five more common side effects and I had all five by day five. I stopped taking them that day but the symptoms continued, and some even worsened. I fought the symptoms for a month or more. The doctor offered another version of the statin, maybe another name brand, but I declined. By mid-September I had cramps behind my eyes and pains in my neck and spine that would drive me to my knees. On Monday morning, Labor Day 2018, I woke up as blind as a bat. Zero sight. Everything was as the same color as a computer screen when turned off. I freaked out. The pain in my neck/spine was crippling. On the way to the emergency room some of sight returned in my left eye almost like a curtain was being peeled back. By noon I could see again but the pain was even more intense. Over the next three months it was CAT scan after CAT scan, blood draw after blood draw, multiple MRI's, a couple EMG's, a lumbar puncture (spinal tap), some visual evoke type tests, some cognizance exams, probably in stroke protocol 10-15 times when the left side showed weakness or no mobility. In late December I was diagnosed with Neuromyelitis Optica Spectrum Disorder. During the explanations of the disease the neurologist said something triggered the autoimmune response and your body reacted. By then I was well onto my Google Medical degree and was near graduating from the Youtube College of Medicine and based on my newfound medical expertise (LOL) my trigger was the statins. I have no medical background to say that was the case and it could have been a complete coincidence; I simply could not prove it one way or the other. But in my brain (and in my heart) it was the statins. From that point til now, I doubt statins will ever be an option. Scott

Congrats. Sometimes the 'eating Holidays' can be a challenge (Thanksgiving and Christmas). Sounds like you nailed this one. Congrats. Happy Holidays. Scott

As our families have grown and expanded there is just not enough time in one day. Here is our plan and Thanksgiving has turned into a 3-4 day event. Some plans changed and my son and daughter-in-law will be here for Thanksgiving. A really close friend's mom passed a few months ago and he and his sister are doing separate things this year. My mom's lunch is still on tap for today so we will: Eat with my mom at lunch. Come home and we are doing a low-country boil tonight with my wife, my son, his wife and our new grandchild (one month yesterday) after watching football all day to day in the cabin. Tomorrow night my buddy, his wife, kids and grandkid are coming over to the cabin with us and my mom for another 'traditional turkey led Thanksgiving'. Then on Saturday night my son and his friends do a 'Friendsgiving'. That can be anything from Thanksgiving leftovers as well as the two smoked pork shoulders he is prepping. Then Sunday will be some sort of pork approach for Football Sunday in the cabin. I will go carnivore weaving thru the dishes to get to the meats. Hectic, but enjoyable. Scott

I'm good with it. It just was a bigger jump on total than I thought over the 4-5-6-month span. I felt like it would move up some, just not as much as it did. I have been eating a lot as of late. When I brought in the protein drinks I think that little bit of sugar not only increased my appetite at mealtime it also brought back some cravings during the day. Some days I would snack on left over meats and other days I'd eat a stab of butter. I now think butteris an amazing snack, almost too good. LOL I feel good and I am sure if I targeted or actively pursued a lower number I could adjust what I am eating get there in time. I have ditched the protein drinks for now and will let things sort of settle out. Although I don't see anything wrong with pursuing a protein target for muscle gain I do see where it does not fit as naturally as 'eat when hungry-eat til full' approach. That little bit of sugar manipulates/stokes the hunger/appetite. Scott

Ours has changed as well. My grandma had five children and all their children and grandchildren managed to pack into a 12-1300 square foot house. She cooked half the night and half the day. Everyone brought dishes, the women folk hit the kitchen to pitch in and the men folk sat around 'sneak drinking' waiting for football. My wife's family much the same. Her mother and her older sister were from way back, right off the farm. My wife was the first kid in their family to go off to college. If you picked your tea glass up and the ice 'almost rattled' they would be there to top off your glass. I remember teasing my wife about that and how college had ruined her. I rattled my glass to let her know it was empty, and she said if I were waiting on her for the re-fill I would eventually perish to death. Now our son is married with his first child, and everyone is doing things with branches of the families but neither family altogether like days gone by. I'm 56, not 86 or 96, but things sure have changed. My wife's banana pudding is world class. My mom's sweet potato pie is top notch. My great aunt's country ham with red eye gravy is superb. My grandma's fresh hams were awesome (and this is when their cousins were still oinking in the bottom). It is not hard to see how I topped out in the 320's. LOL Scott

Happy Holidays. Good luck in the next 30 days or so. Hopefully your numbers fall to your liking. Scott

Congrats. Scott

The last six months I have tried to eat to hit a protein target. Still strict carnivore (18-19 months) but eating pretty much more than I want each day to have enough protein for muscle growth. The proteins went up, and I didn't hit the fat targets, so I had some stiff and hard stools. I increased the fat to catch up to the proteins and help with the stools as well. In turn, so my diet has not been 'eat when hungry-eat til full' for the last six months or so. After six to 12 months on carnivore my cholesterol dropped a few points but took a significant bounce up at the 18-month mark. I was expecting an increase with the sheer amount of food I was eating but I didn't expect the numbers to jump this much. May thru November 2024 May 2025 November 2025 Total Cholesterol 239 212 274 LDL 185 150 164 HDL 37 39 55 Tri-G 49 43 41 My total weight loss of carnivore has been 95-96lbs and in the last couple months I gained 12-15 pounds bouncing around the 215-mark for the most part. The weight gain I expected as the lifting has become more and more a part of my day to day. I am stronger now than I can even remember (never was much on lifting) and the energy levels are still that constant/ability to keep going since early on with carnivore. I feel just as good now as I did six months ago. I had a great visit with my neurologist yesterday. (He is moving back home to Alabama so I quipped that carnivore was going to run him out of business. He replied, "I hope so".) He told me of all his NMO patients I have made the biggest turnaround and went from ho-hum numbers 18 months ago til now. All my markers are within limit is with the exception of one. I started carnivore 18 months ago, so I let people draw their own conclusions. (LOL, preaching to the choir in a forum such as this). My blood sugar crept up a little. My day-to-day over the last six months moved from the low 80's to touching the low 90's every now and then. Yesterday it was 94. Blood pressure was 100/58 before the infusion and 98/54 afterwards (laying in a recliner for five hours). Even with the cholesterol making a jump this is how I judge my health. When I first started the infusions I was 310+lbs and was on a dumpster diet. After each infusion I would be wiped completely out. The 45-minute ride home felt like hours. I hit the recliner for a stretch then to bed really early. restless sleep all night and pretty much flat the next day. Fast forward from 18 months ago, yesterday I saw the Neurologist at 8AM, started the infusion at 9AM (use to be six hours at 310 pounds but now 5 hours at 220) and I was home by 3PM. The ride home was a simple ride home and I ate bacon, sausage and eggs mid-afternoon. I went outside and busted/split just about a Toyota truck full of red oak from two trees we had taken down last week. Fed all the animals as it got dark and back in the house. I went to bed at 9 and now I am up at my normal 3AM time frame. I checked out the forum and now off to the gym to be one of those 4AM weirdos (LOL). I'm going to call that progress, maybe with a chunk more of fat running free in my bloodstream, but over the last 18 months, progress the same. I don't think we make progress over months/years without stacking up a bunch of day-to-day wins. Hope all is well with you and yours. Scott

Agreed. Since going to carnivore I have made some huge strides health wise but all those strides were built upon small victories, the day to day stuff. I am a fan of the 'continual improvement' approach. I think we are all trying to dial it in at some point. Scott

Smart man. Scott

I read some passages a few weeks ago. I enjoy his videos. Straight to the point. Scott