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folate and anemia on long term lion diet
folate and anemia on long term lion diet

Vini replied to Vini's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support

I did not expect issues with folate either. Have been playing soccer very hard all my life and 2 years ago at 47 was still competing with 25 yo on the pitch. Then I ruptured ACL for the second time, and only due to that had to stop playing. Still had plenty of energy, but the knee took long to recover and required second surgery to partially remove damaged meniscus. I have been having sleep issues similar to yours from time to time for many years. My conclusion is do not ignore low folate for too long. Just add liver regularly (not only for folate) and take 5-MTHF - it may further improve other health aspects as well. I suspect and have some information that folate deficit may lead to gut permeability due to gut lining cells being unable to be built properly.
- 16 hours ago16 hr
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folate and anemia on long term lion diet
folate and anemia on long term lion diet

Scott F. replied to Vini's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support

After 18-20 months on carnivore and primarily on red meat with some chicken, pork and fish, I showed low folate last December during bloodwork for an eye exam. I have not been really good about the folate medicine and it showed again in May. I just put my stuff together to start on Monday. I have not seen nor felt any of the negatives while working out. Actually, I have ramped up my workouts as of late without any issues. Maybe the only thing I have noticed is that I am not sleeping all that well for the last few months. I can go right to sleep at my normal bed time, sleep three or four and sometimes five hours and then wide awake, which is 1-2-3 in the morning depending on when I go to bed. I also have had some late in the day energy level drops that I hadn't experienced but haven't attributed it to anything other than the irregular sleep. Reading this I may need to take it more seriously. I really didn't expect a folate issue. Thanks for the information. Scott
- 17 hours ago17 hr
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folate and anemia on long term lion diet
folate and anemia on long term lion diet

Vini replied to Vini's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support

Hi Geezy, thanks for your reply. You're right, I had no alcohol, otherwise it would not have been a Lion diet. I did start eating eggs and taking folate supplement of course, although not folic acid but L-methylfolate (5-MTHF), which is a natural form not requiring any conversion, and also added long neglected beef liver. Recovery is slow, so far after a week I have almost no liquid left in my lungs, but other symptoms remain almost unchanged so far. Very sorry about your granddaughter. This folate thing is an underappreciated serious matter. However, the gov's solution of force-feeding folic acid to everybody is wrong as usual and immoral in general IMO. This substance is not found in nature as elaborated in a recent youtube video by dr. John Campbell. By the way, before starting L-methylfolate I could not tolerate butter, eggs and many other things. But now I tolerate them rather well, not sure why. Cheers
- 17 hours ago17 hr
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folate and anemia on long term lion diet
folate and anemia on long term lion diet

Geezy replied to Vini's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support

Welcome Vini. This is interesting because this is the first time I’ve heard of anyone being on a carnivore diet having a folate or vitamin B deficiency. Especially when eating nothing but red meats. It appears to me that you may have a unique situation within your body that is causing this. What it may be I wouldn’t know. A couple of things that can cause a folate deficiency are certain medications and alcohol use. Since you have been eating Lion I would assume that alcohol is not in your diet. It sounds to me like you may need to stop eating Lion and possibly consider adding a few things to your diet if they don’t affect you in other ways. Eggs would be my first choice to add back in followed by liver of some sort with chicken being the mildest. Next would be avocado even though I can’t stand them but they do have a fairly healthy fat. Last would be nuts or legumes such as peanuts and leafy green vegetables. Now I can only speak for myself but before I would start eating nuts, peanuts or vegetables I’d start taking a folate supplement. We lost a granddaughter at birth to a folate deficiency in her mother so ever since then my daughter has taken folic acid to supplement her diet and has since had three healthy children. Folate deficiency can be very serious and you really need to do something about it soon as it can lead to other issues in your body both physically and mentally. I hope this helps and let us know what you decide to do and how it works out for you.
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folate and anemia on long term lion diet
folate and anemia on long term lion diet

Vini posted a topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support

Hi, I am wondering how people keep folate at a normal level on the lion diet. I've been on it for 3 years and my bloodwork indicated low folate, but I ignored it thinking it may be similar to Vitamin C situation. It worked reasonably well until this past June when I first noticed severe and worsening heartburn. Then I noticed my heart racing during mild physical activity. Long story short, I developed severe anemia with hemoglobin at 80, liquid in the lungs, developing heart failure. I read some stats and understood it was inevitable due to very low folate content in beef muscle meat. One would have to eat a minimum of 150g of beef liver every single day, not occasionally, to get the daily norm. And that might result in copper toxicity, I guess. So is the lion diet really not viable long term or am I perhaps genetically incapable to somehow preserve folate while others can? Cheers, Vini
- Yesterday at 05:41 AM1 day
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