Scott F.

Today was not exactly down the middle of the carnivore road.
I drank a protein shake with whole milk and ate a handful of storebought pepperoni. Not exactly the breakfast of champions neither.
Hope all is well. If the pager does not go off today I think I will be able to join the Monday night discussion tonight.
Scott

I put the chuck roast in the crock pot for five six hours (depending on the size)
You are correct it is a lean cut, no marbling, hardly any fat at all.
I buy them because most of the time they are a cheaper cut of red meat. I am a boring eater, even before carnivore, so I buy a lot of the leaner cheaper cuts and just eat more butter to increase the fat content of that particular meal.
My wife and my son have tried carnivore each going 25-30 days on a couple of occasions. Lack of variety and color on the plate stopped carnivore for both of them. I guess that is the same reason when people say, "You only eat meat, salt and water"?.
For some the 'elimination' part of carnivore 'eliminates' them from even trying.
Scott

@Bob I found that to be the case for me as well. When I was trying to hit the protein target I let the fat content drop some. The combination of eating more and the fat caused me to gain weight. After I stopped hitting the target my protein to fat ratio was still off and even eating less the weight stayed the same or picked up a pound here and there.
Whoulda' thunk butter is a weight loss food? LOL
Scott

Agreed.
I feel like if I got better with a shift in diet I would like to think so could a lot of people.
What I think would help, similar in thought to what you posted, is doctors being a bit more open minded. I get pills and potions can help correct a situation in a hurry and a lot of times that is the best practice. But I wish there was the next step to see what could be done for an alternate means of healing/staying healthy.
Good luck on your continued progress.
Scott

I have to get better at getting the pics.
Tonight was some beef short ribs. My son hit the spice rack a bit much for me but they were really good. I'm mostly a salt guy, and a lot of times it is just the meat.
Scott

@Bob I found that to be the case for me as well. When I was trying to hit the protein target I let the fat content drop some. The combination of eating more and the fat caused me to gain weight. After I stopped hitting the target my protein to fat ratio was still off and even eating less the weight stayed the same or picked up a pound here and there.
Whoulda' thunk butter is a weight loss food? LOL
Scott

@Bob I found that to be the case for me as well. When I was trying to hit the protein target I let the fat content drop some. The combination of eating more and the fat caused me to gain weight. After I stopped hitting the target my protein to fat ratio was still off and even eating less the weight stayed the same or picked up a pound here and there.
Whoulda' thunk butter is a weight loss food? LOL
Scott

This morning was eggs and homemade sausage.
The sausage is a bummer because it is almost out from last winter. I have maybe 6 or 7 1lb packs left until the weather breaks in the fall. Since it has been in the upper 90's with a heat index well over 100, it will probably be store bought sausage sometime soon.
Scott

I hate I missed it. I ran like a chicken with its head cut off last night to free up some time to drop in on my phone from work. But, to no avail as it was one thing after another most of the night.
I will try to watch it sometime today. It would have been better to listen, interact and ask questions.
Hope all is well with everyone.
Scott

I hate I missed it. I ran like a chicken with its head cut off last night to free up some time to drop in on my phone from work. But, to no avail as it was one thing after another most of the night.
I will try to watch it sometime today. It would have been better to listen, interact and ask questions.
Hope all is well with everyone.
Scott

A little elaboration.
I started off with losing weight from fasting but soon realized I could lose the same amount of weight just as easy just being a normal carnivore.
Mostly I do it now because I simply feel really good about 1/2 way into the fast and even into the day or so afterwards.
I tracked ketones and GKI numbers a number of times. It is the 'since I am here approach'. I have an autoimmune disease that affects my neurological system. The most neurological impact from fasting and being in ketosis is on the deeper end. I can use the GKI number to see where I am at during the fast. Let's say the GKI number is four and I would like to get between 1 and 3, I can dial up when to go to the gym.
I'm already in ketosis and ketones (I think BHB's off the top of my head) are rolling. Burning fat for fuel in in full gear as the glycogen has been depleted from the liver. This is a good state to be in and I feel really good. I then add in a fairly hard workout when I get down around 5, even four and that workout will drive me below 3 for a few hours.
I target 3 and below because that is where the neurological repair/improvements occur which is pretty deep into ketosis. After one or two workouts between 48 and 72/96 hours I sort of think I have done all the repair/improvement that is going to be done on that particular fast. I also sort of think two longer fasts during one month inches me closer to the 'diminishing returns' areas of fasting.
Maybe that made sense.
Scott

I checked mine for a stretch with a blood sample as well as the glucose testing.
Between the two the GKI number can be obtained.
Mostly I use it when fasting. I dry fast for app. 48 hours and then water fast the next 24-48 hours.
I sort of figured out where I am at during the fast, where/when I feel the best and how that corresponds to being in ketosis, deeper ketosis and then when I come out.
During the non-fasting times I am sure I bounce in and out, especially when I drink one of the protein drinks that has a bit of sugar.
Scott

Agreed.
I did and occasionally still use magnesium glycinate.
I went thru a stretch where I tracked protein trying to hit 200 grams per day. I struggled to get that much protein in during the day to the point it pretty much felt impossible.
Other than that, it was eat when hungry and eat til full.
Scott

Nothing since Friday night about 9PM.
Maybe Tuesday morning, depends on how I feel.
I don't think there is anything better than eggs other than bacon and together they are a dynamic duo. Pretty much unbeatable.
Scott

Nice pic. I smoked a turkey earlier in the week, a brisket on Saturday, ribs on Friday and two pork shoulders on Wednesday.
The smoker is working overtime this week.
And like most of the time, I forgot to take pics. I think because when it is time for pics I am ready to eat and lose track, LOL
Scott

Nice work.
Scott

Dumpster diet to carnivore since May 6, 2024. A little over two years.
I pretty much never say never, but I can't imagine eating any other way now.
For me, carnivore, regular extended fasts (72+ hours) and resistance training have me in a really good place.
I am not a 'rock the boat' kinda' guy.
Scott

Nothing since Friday night about 9PM.
Maybe Tuesday morning, depends on how I feel.
I don't think there is anything better than eggs other than bacon and together they are a dynamic duo. Pretty much unbeatable.
Scott

Nice pic. I smoked a turkey earlier in the week, a brisket on Saturday, ribs on Friday and two pork shoulders on Wednesday.
The smoker is working overtime this week.
And like most of the time, I forgot to take pics. I think because when it is time for pics I am ready to eat and lose track, LOL
Scott

Agreed.
I did and occasionally still use magnesium glycinate.
I went thru a stretch where I tracked protein trying to hit 200 grams per day. I struggled to get that much protein in during the day to the point it pretty much felt impossible.
Other than that, it was eat when hungry and eat til full.
Scott

A little elaboration.
I started off with losing weight from fasting but soon realized I could lose the same amount of weight just as easy just being a normal carnivore.
Mostly I do it now because I simply feel really good about 1/2 way into the fast and even into the day or so afterwards.
I tracked ketones and GKI numbers a number of times. It is the 'since I am here approach'. I have an autoimmune disease that affects my neurological system. The most neurological impact from fasting and being in ketosis is on the deeper end. I can use the GKI number to see where I am at during the fast. Let's say the GKI number is four and I would like to get between 1 and 3, I can dial up when to go to the gym.
I'm already in ketosis and ketones (I think BHB's off the top of my head) are rolling. Burning fat for fuel in in full gear as the glycogen has been depleted from the liver. This is a good state to be in and I feel really good. I then add in a fairly hard workout when I get down around 5, even four and that workout will drive me below 3 for a few hours.
I target 3 and below because that is where the neurological repair/improvements occur which is pretty deep into ketosis. After one or two workouts between 48 and 72/96 hours I sort of think I have done all the repair/improvement that is going to be done on that particular fast. I also sort of think two longer fasts during one month inches me closer to the 'diminishing returns' areas of fasting.
Maybe that made sense.
Scott

I checked mine for a stretch with a blood sample as well as the glucose testing.
Between the two the GKI number can be obtained.
Mostly I use it when fasting. I dry fast for app. 48 hours and then water fast the next 24-48 hours.
I sort of figured out where I am at during the fast, where/when I feel the best and how that corresponds to being in ketosis, deeper ketosis and then when I come out.
During the non-fasting times I am sure I bounce in and out, especially when I drink one of the protein drinks that has a bit of sugar.
Scott

Dumpster diet to carnivore since May 6, 2024. A little over two years.
I pretty much never say never, but I can't imagine eating any other way now.
For me, carnivore, regular extended fasts (72+ hours) and resistance training have me in a really good place.
I am not a 'rock the boat' kinda' guy.
Scott

You are tougher than me.
I would eat them after the chicken processes them into leg quarters but that is about as close as I could get. LOL
I was a basic meat and potatoes guy before carnivore and did not have a big variety or big palate.
This is no stretch for most but I made a pizza cruse out of ground chicken and eggs. Turned into a really good pizza.
That is about as far out there as I go. LOL
Scott

I think anytime something can start a conversation it can be beneficial.
I am not a nutrition/diet expert, nor am I a doctor or any sorts and by no means a professional of any kind. But, with that said, it is amazing that someone as dumb as me can look up facts and learn. I have read more in the two years of carnivore than I did in the previous 25 years.
I doubt I ever put much thought into 'essentials' of any kind. For the longest my 'essentials' were Mountain Dew, Little Debbie cakes and pretty much a dumpster diet on top of the daily kick start of sugar and trash.
I doubt I would have ever entered into a debate, but I am sure my 'belief' system would have been closer to theirs than my current thinking.
Most of the time the comments are better than the articles/questions. Quite entertaining.
Scott