Scott F.

I used a ketone meter for a stretch while fasting. Over several fasts I found where I peaked in ketosis, on average. From there I time my workouts around those times. I am not sure how much impact it has as I have not had any real energy lapses to compare. I start the fast and workout that morning, and usually about 24-36 hours I am really deep in in ketosis.
I also couple the ketone meter with a glucose monitor to get a GKI number. After my fasting starts I workout and then around 30 hours later is my next work out. And from there about 24 hours a part thru the end of the fast, which usually lasts about 96 hours.
I agree with Geezy, how I feel factors more than the meter or the scale.
Scott

My blood sugar has always been relatively low. Prior to carnivore If I didn't eat after 6PM the next morning my glucose would be in the upper 80's to low 90's. And I ate a dumpster diet to say the least. I never had a glucose reading over 100 until six to eight months int carnivore. Sort of freaked at the 111, and stayed just above 100 for a few weeks until I cut back on milk (big fan, still am). Milk is/was an automatic stall trigger in the beginning. So for glucose, I didn't see anything that I would relate to processed foods.
My HDL did move from the 40's to the upper 50's. And my triglycerides improved as well. Doing the math I am right around one, now. Much better than prior to carnivore.
I am sure the elimination of processed foods played a part but I doubt I could distinguish processed foods from all the other garbage I was eating. I benefitted from the elimination of all the garbage.
I eat pepperoni out of the grocery store packs, maybe a family pack every other week or so. I eat the bacon my wife picks and it is bathed in 'sugars'. I am predominantly a red meat eater but the pepperoni, the bacon and the milk sometimes put me int he crosshairs of the carnivore police. (LOL)
Nice read.
Scott

When the studies say 'observational' or 'surveyed' I lose interest and a lot of times stop reading at that point. I like data, actual data, and how it speaks to certain issues.
I think observational and surveyed studies fall into one half of 'causation and correlation' and in that half it is a lot of assumptions and speculations.
And at the same time, I factor how I feel and how I am doing and will rank that above any data that says my strict carnivore, primarily red meat, salt and water will have adverse effects at some point.
Good topic.
Scott

I don't use the deodorant either. I didn't think about it.
Prior to carnivore I could get hot and sweaty and smell like a goat in no time. Since, even the harder days in the gym or working here around the house I don't seem to 'give off an aroma'.
It is sort of weird.
Scott

I am not sure I have any except maybe the OMAD just sort of happened and I had to purposely eat more to off set some weight loss/strength loss. I didn't see that coming at all.
I use whatever toothpastes my wife buys and seldom get the same one two purchases in a row. Not a lot of hair to work with so care products are limited, not much more than a bar of Dial soap.
I missed last week's roundtable. I am a lifelong shift worker so my sleep patterns are not exactly ideal. Working days or nights I sleep from about 9 to 3. Prior to carnivore I could go back to sleep and get another hour to two hours and then start my day. Still an early start at 5/6 but since carnivore that has changed.
I didn't get the mental clarity or cognizant effect people talk about with carnivore. What I got was when I wake up I'm up, and there is no going back to sleep. My days now start as 3:30 AM or PM depending on when I lay down for that day. it does not sound like a a good habit but I take advantage by going to the gym really early, my day starts sooner and I get a lot more done.
Coupling that with the steady supply of energy I now get some things done vs. putting stuff off til another day.
Good topic. I hadn't thought much about it.
Scott

Agreed.
My carnivore and fasting have become a 'running joke' (in a good way) at work. "Are you going to eat this week?" or "want a slice of my pizza?". So now when I cruise thru the break room, or the engineering offices and people are eating all kinds of stuff I say, "You should look up insulin resistance."
As I watch others eat, 'one small serving' would probably be a huge improvement for most.
Scott

You know it is a good time when he crawls up to get out of the side by side and the first words are, "Did anyone get a video of that?". LOL
I don't know how to make the memes and stuff but this one would be my buddy in the pic to a "T". When Drew says if we take this trail, we are 30 minutes from the house and it translates to the next two hours will be the best four-hour ride of the weekend.
Scott

Good luck and hopefully that plan works for you.
For me, there is a difference in the proteins which makes me a red meat fan.
Scott

Prior to carnivore, never really putting two and two together, the only thing I ever really differentiated between meats was that pork was less filling. Before eating primarily red meats, I could eat a ton of pork and within a little while be hungry all over again. Granted, I am sure the other garbage I was eating was adding to the hunger, but with pork, the hunger came faster.
Once going carnivore, I can feel the difference between the proteins. Chicken and fish don't seem to carry me like red meat and the pork is a distant fourth. Eggs do OK but the satiation effect of red meat really sets itself apart, at least for me anyway.
Maybe one of the uncommon things for me is that I have a better understanding of the proteins and how they work for me as most people, like me beforehand, sees a protein as a protein.
Scott

I don't use the deodorant either. I didn't think about it.
Prior to carnivore I could get hot and sweaty and smell like a goat in no time. Since, even the harder days in the gym or working here around the house I don't seem to 'give off an aroma'.
It is sort of weird.
Scott

I started off north of 320 and got down to 211 but at 211 I felt like I lost some strength in the gym as well as the energy was there, just not the same. Probably not the same amount of energy, not reduction enough to launch red flags, but 211 didn't feel as good as 220 or so.
Several months ago, I attempted to increase my protein intake to hit certain targets. I re-introduced some sugar (by accident) and found it triggered my appetite. I hit the targets most of the time and before I knew it, I went from that 211 to the mid to upper 230's. The strength actually increased and the energy level returned.
After a month or so I settled in the upper 220's.
This past weekend I rode side by sides in West Virginia. I pre-made my meals and not intentionally but it turned out to be strict carnivore. No dairy. no sauces or rubs, just meat, salt and water from Thursday til Sunday. On Monday morning I had lost nearly six pounds from Thursday morning.
On Monday I started drinking milk again, used some sauce on a steak and snacked on butter a couple three times per day.
Before you know it, picked up a couple pounds as quick this week as I dropped it last week.
It feels pretty good to know I have control of the dial to drive my own weight/health.
Scott

In search of a path out of a soggy, mud filled bottom my buddy was backing up and slipped of an embankment.
Just about two hours later we had him on all fours and ready to ride again.
Scott

I am not sure I have any except maybe the OMAD just sort of happened and I had to purposely eat more to off set some weight loss/strength loss. I didn't see that coming at all.
I use whatever toothpastes my wife buys and seldom get the same one two purchases in a row. Not a lot of hair to work with so care products are limited, not much more than a bar of Dial soap.
I missed last week's roundtable. I am a lifelong shift worker so my sleep patterns are not exactly ideal. Working days or nights I sleep from about 9 to 3. Prior to carnivore I could go back to sleep and get another hour to two hours and then start my day. Still an early start at 5/6 but since carnivore that has changed.
I didn't get the mental clarity or cognizant effect people talk about with carnivore. What I got was when I wake up I'm up, and there is no going back to sleep. My days now start as 3:30 AM or PM depending on when I lay down for that day. it does not sound like a a good habit but I take advantage by going to the gym really early, my day starts sooner and I get a lot more done.
Coupling that with the steady supply of energy I now get some things done vs. putting stuff off til another day.
Good topic. I hadn't thought much about it.
Scott

I'm 6'3".
I feel the same about the cravings. I never had cravings when I switched and maybe the sugar triggering my hunger is borderline craving. That I am not sure about. I don't jones for more sugar but i do eat a red meat when it happens. Maybe if I didn't eat the satiating red meat the trigger would manifest into a craving. I'm not sure, or maybe after two plus years I am past that as an issue. Still learning.
Scott

This is the last project that was going to be my last project.
1972 K5 Chevrolet Blazer. Factory 350/4speed 4WD.
Scott

Last night we had our families Christmas dinner and gift exchange. (work schedules). For the last ten years or so we do a 4-6lb prime rib roast. This year my sone knocked it out of the park with the roast. I'm not sure where the notion struck but I ate a small helping of green beans (my all time favorite food) and maybe a spoonful of creamed potatoes. I think it was more of a shocker for the family than for me. It was not like a craving or anything I put any thought into (other than thinking about a sweet potato once per week prior to a heavier/longer workout at the gym). I hadn't made any plans to eat anything other than meat but it sort of just happened.
The green beans tasted just like I remember (really awesome) and the cream potatoes were pretty good too.
I am not sure if I didn't eat enough or I didn't work out hard enough/long enough but I don't think I really seen any difference with my energy level during this morning's workout. I will see how the rest of the day goes but I got thru a longer leg workout without any lack of energy and didn't really feel any out of the ordinary burst. Unless something else drastically changes today I am not seeing the benefit of the carbs in regards to lifting. Again, maybe I didn't eat enough or go hard enough, but today was like any other day while eating carnivore.
I had gone from May 8th, 2024, til last night without a vegetable or fruit or anything along those lines and I guess that streak/stretch is over.
I don't this gets me kicked out of the club, maybe some probation or something, but I still think I'm on the carnivore path.
Scott

I can never seem to remember to take pictures.
We went to West Virginia to ride the Hatfield and McCoy trails/Outlaw trails. My wife pre-cooked the meals for me on Wednesday evening. It would have been a great picture of a nice spread.
2 ribeyes, about 12 big hamburger patties, a pound of bacon, maybe a 1/2 pound of homemade sausage and 8 boiled eggs.
Thursday from 8AM til 3:30 AM I ate a 1/2 pound of bacon, 2 eggs and 4 hamburger patties.
Friday morning from 10:30AM til midnight I ate 2 eggs, a 1/2 pound of sausage, and 4 hamburger patties.
Saturday I ate 2 eggs, two hamburger patties and two big ribeyes from 9AM til midnight. I did eat an amazing hamburger topped with bacon and cheese at the Outlaw Biker Bar. I am sure it was cooked in some sort of vegetable oil. Maybe it was I was tired, wet and hungry, not sure, but it was one of the best burgers I have ever eaten.
Sunday morning I finished the two last two burgers on the ride home.
A different topic but I found it very easy to eat what I took while the others in our group ate from the local restaurants, sandwiches, snacks and of course, all the beer they drank. They were actually very considerate asking if I minded stopping with them to eat at a pizza joint. Good group of guys. (I will admit, although it was not a craving, nor did I feel like I was going to succumb, but that may have been the best smelling pizza ever. I told the guys if I ever decided to "give carbs a go" we would ride to West Virginia and his that pizza joint. LOL
I will post a couple pics on the other thread. Still wish I had snapped a photo of the spread.
Scott

In search of a path out of a soggy, mud filled bottom my buddy was backing up and slipped of an embankment.
Just about two hours later we had him on all fours and ready to ride again.
Scott

I started off north of 320 and got down to 211 but at 211 I felt like I lost some strength in the gym as well as the energy was there, just not the same. Probably not the same amount of energy, not reduction enough to launch red flags, but 211 didn't feel as good as 220 or so.
Several months ago, I attempted to increase my protein intake to hit certain targets. I re-introduced some sugar (by accident) and found it triggered my appetite. I hit the targets most of the time and before I knew it, I went from that 211 to the mid to upper 230's. The strength actually increased and the energy level returned.
After a month or so I settled in the upper 220's.
This past weekend I rode side by sides in West Virginia. I pre-made my meals and not intentionally but it turned out to be strict carnivore. No dairy. no sauces or rubs, just meat, salt and water from Thursday til Sunday. On Monday morning I had lost nearly six pounds from Thursday morning.
On Monday I started drinking milk again, used some sauce on a steak and snacked on butter a couple three times per day.
Before you know it, picked up a couple pounds as quick this week as I dropped it last week.
It feels pretty good to know I have control of the dial to drive my own weight/health.
Scott

Looks good.
Funny burger store from the beach. We went into a local market to buy groceries. We were having family over for burgers on Tuesday night. I did not pay attention to the weight or price and just grabbed two family sized packs of 73/27 hamburger.
We started making patties and kept making patties and kept making patties and never got out of the first pack. I have never seen hamburger packed so tight in one styrofoam flat.
We all joked about where we buy hay from back home. One farm has really pretty bales and the one a bit further away has the same size bales but twice the amount of hay. His baler packs hay to tight you can barely stab it with a knife.
I think that butcher had the machine to package his hamburger.
We ate three times off those two packs of burgers and I brought several home. Actually about to eat the last two now.
Scott

In search of a path out of a soggy, mud filled bottom my buddy was backing up and slipped of an embankment.
Just about two hours later we had him on all fours and ready to ride again.
Scott

Today was not exactly down the middle of the carnivore road.
I drank a protein shake with whole milk and ate a handful of storebought pepperoni. Not exactly the breakfast of champions neither.
Hope all is well. If the pager does not go off today I think I will be able to join the Monday night discussion tonight.
Scott

I put the chuck roast in the crock pot for five six hours (depending on the size)
You are correct it is a lean cut, no marbling, hardly any fat at all.
I buy them because most of the time they are a cheaper cut of red meat. I am a boring eater, even before carnivore, so I buy a lot of the leaner cheaper cuts and just eat more butter to increase the fat content of that particular meal.
My wife and my son have tried carnivore each going 25-30 days on a couple of occasions. Lack of variety and color on the plate stopped carnivore for both of them. I guess that is the same reason when people say, "You only eat meat, salt and water"?.
For some the 'elimination' part of carnivore 'eliminates' them from even trying.
Scott

@Bob I found that to be the case for me as well. When I was trying to hit the protein target I let the fat content drop some. The combination of eating more and the fat caused me to gain weight. After I stopped hitting the target my protein to fat ratio was still off and even eating less the weight stayed the same or picked up a pound here and there.
Whoulda' thunk butter is a weight loss food? LOL
Scott

Agreed.
I feel like if I got better with a shift in diet I would like to think so could a lot of people.
What I think would help, similar in thought to what you posted, is doctors being a bit more open minded. I get pills and potions can help correct a situation in a hurry and a lot of times that is the best practice. But I wish there was the next step to see what could be done for an alternate means of healing/staying healthy.
Good luck on your continued progress.
Scott