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    • I´m not sure what to tell my doc either. I could list about fifteen things that are better in my life now, with ketovore diet,including having cut BP meds much lower and quit Statin. I could let doc believe that meds have miraculously healed me... without mentioning quitting some... But then there is LDL- It will be high especially now in the beginning of keto.  I will get caught for healing myself in a wrong way.
    • I'm sort of in the same boat.  My family doctor has been genuinely supportive of the diet. I think if I had told him about my plans from Day 1 he would not have been as supportive. I let him in on the diet after I had dropped a bunch of weight and told him I had been off my medicine for several months.  He gave me a non-statin sample as he was concerned with my LDL number in the 180's. He gave me the 'separate your eggs' instruction and eat meats that are leaner/less fatty. I chose to not use the medicine and continue with meats, salt and water.  Maybe one of the funnies, is afterwards I shifted into eating to gain muscle so the egg content per day went way up. 3 months later my LDL dropped from the 180's to the 150's, about 35 points. I will admit, I had become accepting of the fact my eating habits might drive my numbers up some, and mostly I was worried they would skyrocket with the additional fatty meats and eggs. When the LDL dropped, I was pleasantly surprised, but equal to that was my confusion.  My lifting has increased and are higher in intensity, weight and over-all volume compared to just five or six months ago. I just started doing actual splits based on muscle groups. I couple that with eating a boat load of food trying to hit my 'needed protein' for muscle growth, especially eggs, averaging 8 or so a day. I have an appointment in a few weeks. I'm debating on my approach. Do I lead off with I didn't use the medicine and through diet and more intense exercise my LDL improved? and see where he lands on my approach. Or, do I go thru the motions allowing him to think the prescription is improving some of my numbers? Decisions. Decisions. I will have another series of blood tests in a couple months. I'm hoping to see continued improvements in my immunoglobulins numbers as well.  I'm a 'knock on wood' type when things are going well, so I am knocking on wood and don't want to jinx the progress, but I do feel like for now I am winning. Pretty good feeling. Scott
    • OP did not stay here. I just talked about this with my wife today,again.  Cutting carbs would be such an easy thing for anyone to try, just for a few weeks. Many notice the cravings for sugar go away in that time, also the scale may show smaller numbers quickly. But people don´t believe.  I have obese friends that I tried to talk about this 20 years ago, not preaching but using myself as an example. They listen,say "wow" - and eat more potatoes and candy. I rarely tell anyone about my diet any more,it´s just not worth it. "Great but fat makes you fat and cholesterol kills you!" Those attitudes are just so deep. People who buy  "light low fat" -food are usually the biggest in supermarkets. And keep getting larger... Okay sorry for the rant. I just can´t see why folks try other diets, some practically stop eating... why not even try low carb/carni/keto whatever carb restriction? And eat like a King,I just did:    
    • Sorry I can not do that. I can handle two morning cups well but if I end up drinking a few more in the afternoon, I start getting shaky and nervous. When driving I break all speed limits. If at a shooting range, I can´t hit anything. Things like that.
    • Sort of the same boat here. I just quit my statins,a heavy max dose for years. My numbers will get high I know. I measure my sugar and ketones every couple of weeks but I do not intend to get a cholesterol measuring gadget. Adds stress only. I rather have my legs and metabolism back than a low LDL number that does not correlate to my health in any way. And it won´t even get low enough,no matter what. Next meeting with doc will be exiting. Doc is okay but very anti-fat. I know he will say I´m killing myself. Hoping he is wrong.
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