Bob

My son has turned into quite the cook.
I do a pretty good whole hog and sort of known amongst friends and family for the pigs we cook here at the cabin.
He has passed me by miles. It is not even close.
Scott

I have not read too deeply on the biblical perspective but some on 'meat being the proper human diet'.
I think geography played a major part and I do not think people really 'cared' what was used as sustenance to get from today until tomorrow. I am sure there were fruits and plants that were plentiful when in season in certain areas and not so plentiful in other parts of the country/the world.
It is not like every time they picked up the spear; they brought meat home. During the lean times I doubt they passed up on a fruit or vegetable.
Fast forward. I don't see a lot wrong with that approach today. For me, it is still strict carnivore more because I see an issue with fruits and vegetables, it is more that I do not know which one triggers my inflammation. If I could easily identify my triggers I would more than likely re-introduce others.
Scott

I mean, would you rather have the jar of smushed peas, or the steak?

As a Bible believer I’m a creationist and if we look at Genesis we see something very similar to what the article is stating. When God created us we and all of creation were plant eaters. At some point in time we started eating meat but we aren’t exactly sure when. There is no specific mention of man eating meat until after the flood.

Good read. I would think this also tends to be more geographical as well. I mean the people in Alaska are not going to show signs of living on apples and oranges year around just as the people in the deep south making on whale blubber.
I think we have always been carnivores and omnivores and herbivores, maybe even opportunist-vores or even scavengers. Hunger can drive the details of evolution.
Scott

Agreed. I think most of us can attest to the effectiveness of a proper human diet, even those that are really close can be effective.
Carnivore was so effective for me (almost like I was hyper-sensitive, LOL) if I ate a somewhat regular size steak (14 ounces or so) I could hardly look at food for 24+ hours.
I guess my GLP-1's were just busting at the seams to get out and mingle amongst the food cravings.
When I re-introduced sugar I could then eat twice a day most days during the week. I have to imagine continuing to eat the processed and sugary foods creates a battle between the GLP-1 and the cravings/continues hunger. And if there is a break in the GLP-1 and/or a stoppage, I can only think the old lifestyle comes back with a bang.
Scott

I believe so.
Tonight we were in the cabin, and he had his 'regular' food, but he was eyeballing the stuff that came off the grill.
He knows.
Scott

Positive proof that we are born carnivore…in my humble opinion of course. 😉

Greek and Roman statues are bad?
And I am amused with the guys getting some sunshine where the sun doesn't normally shine, lol

Yes I agree with the change in pain approach.
Scott

Yep. Mostly I think taking the shot or the pill seems easier and probably seems the quicker route.
It would be a solid business model to get the prescription, take a few of the shots/pills, wait for the long-term side effects and get in on the class action lawsuits.
Not the smartest route but I can see it paying off....if you live long enough.
Scott

I find that to be interesting. What marks the difference between either foods since they are both grain based? One processed and the other isn’t? Or is it another ingredient in the making of the bread and not just the grain?
It’s not genes that cause weight gain but hormones. Insulin resistance.
Glad to see that science is finally starting to catch up with what us uneducated people already know. Give it another 100 years and they might actually learn the complete truth.

Ahh but will anyone really listen?

Good read.
It is one of those articles like, "I already knew that before I really knew that".
Scott

I've heard that over there they chuckle at the term "mediterranean diet" that we use over here, and that it's not even close. One short/reel if someone from the mediterranean said that a mediterranean diet is essentially "If it moves, eat it" lol

Oh man, you just gave me a great idea.
When I worked in Athens Greece I did my best to try and eat my weight in gyros. They were so good with Tzatziki.
So now you’ve given me the idea of smoking a roast and making a chaffel sandwich with that roast and putting Tzatziki on it. I bet it would be delicious. I’ll have to see if I can find some Tzatziki seasonings on line because I’m out of what I brought back from Greece.

The opposition is still strong, lol. Despite all the success stories, big food and big pharma are there peddling their propaganda because it could affect their $$$$.

Yes! I like this. Great comparison.

I'm mostly carnivore, about 95% of the time. Once every week or so we go out, and depending on the restaurant I might deviate, but try to keep it keto.
At home, if I make a roast in the crock pot I will likely have it with a little sauerkraut. I also like Tzatziki sauce, which is greek yogurt with a little cucumber mixed in.

Better advice. Think of ultra processed foods as if they are cigarettes. Because that's exactly how healthy they are

Yes, the ferments are more a nutritional a gut biome thing rather than for enjoyment, although I buy tasty stuff,
I have been convinced that getting right gut health is critical for visceral fat loss, mental health, auto-immune disease and so on. Since committing fully in the last two weeks, although I have had several aborted attempts earlier this year, I have already achieved so many benefits. Bloating, skin, weight loss, energy levels, sleep, general aches and pains and more all vastly better. Cardio improved without taking any more exercise.
So many thanks for the welcome!! Approx 100lbs to lose. Intuitively experimenting to see how I feel and respond

Cheers