Scott F.

Yes. I use Bulk Supplement brand whey protein. On occasion I buy the Fairlife 30Gram Chocolate protein drink (I think it is 7g of sugar per bottle). I didn't realize the sugar would have the impact it did. I went to the protein drinks/shakes because I could not eat anywhere near 200 grams of protein in a day. When others would talk about eating 2lbs, and even more, in a meal I was blown away. There was a stretch when 2lbs could last me three days. I am sort of jealous. LOL The sugar has spiked my appetite but not to the point I can consistently hit the protein target for muscle growth. Since I can't get there with food I choke down a protein shake here and there to boos my daily protein. Thus far the appetite is still what would be considered carnivore and the drinks have not gave me any cravings for more sugar. Scott

True. But the real definition can't be sold to the masses. The made up definition is a much easier sell. LOL Scott

I think we can all start on the same path but the true successes will see us splinter off down our individual paths. If I eat 14-16oz. steak I do no want to even look at food til the next day, much less eat it. What I found is that when I reintroduced sugar (by accident/semi-accident) I found it triggered hunger. The sugars that are in the protein drinks I use help me eat a second meal. The second meal helps me get within striking distance of my protein goals. Sometimes my OMAD turned into One Meal Every Other Day. I think that leads to a battle between protein curbing the hunger and the sugar triggering it. I think that battle could be deemed as a stressor Scott.

It sounds like you fared well anyway. LOL A high school funny. We were somewhere between figuring out the sizes of triangles in Geometry with Algebraic equations and I made the age-old comment, " I will never use this in life". My teacher quickly replied, "Your dad pours concrete and builds houses, doesn't he?" I nodded yes, and he said, "He can't go a day without using it". It took some time for that to sink in. Scott

I sort of think they all diets work and then all diets fail. Success is in the lifestyle change.

Sometimes I think the fact we are not all the same gets lost when looking what carnivore has done for others and hoping about what it will do. As Geezy suggested, try a different approach. Maybe two smaller meals will work better for you. If the fruit is serving the purpose of a snack or something in between meals you can replace it with some sort of meat snack. In my first few months I would have a couple burgers or some bacon in the refrigerator. Thise will work in a pinch and will do no harm. And if it has to be something in the family of fruits and vegetables then maybe something like an avocado or something similar. It is much better to find what works for you than modeling your approach after another. I have changed a number of times since May '24, sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad. It is like I have been dialing in since the start. Good luck. Keep plugging away. The goal is to figure out your path. Scott

Mathematics are amazing. I was at 31% at the beginning of December and now just shy of 26% after eating more than when I was hungry. Scott

Me too. My PCP still suggests a statin or a non-statin for my cholesterol. He is a big fan of the weight loss but not the biggest fan of the route. He wants me to use lean cuts of meat. I almost attempted to explain lean meat would sort of defeat the purpose but I didn't see any chance of changing his mind, so I left it at that. My Neurologist on the other hand, is super supportive and not prescribing it as a treatment but is recommending people in his clinic look into the carnivore approach. He is amazed by my story and admits he didn't my results coming when I first let him in on my plan. And now he is moving and I have a new Neurologist come April/May. I am sort of intrigued about his response. Scott

New Study DESTROYS What Everyone Thought About Carnivore It may be old. I didn't check the date. Pretty god video. Scott

I work with a guy who had one of the gastric surgeries and lost 200+ pounds and kept it off for a couple years and then........ He ballooned to well over 400lbs over the next few years. A couple years ago he had a second surgery but before hand he had to attend all these classes and lose X amount of weight via the plan. He did so, has had the surgery and this time appears to be doing as he should. We have another person who uses one of the GLP drugs and initially lost a lot of weight, then stalled and gained some back, but in turn asked the doctor (and received) an increased dosage. It's like, "the first pill is so I can lower my blood sugar but I eat the second pill so I can eat the cake too". Again, no personal experience but that is what it looks like from this side of the fence looking over. I could be wrong. Scott

It all depends on the person. I have been strict carnivore since May of '24 and I have yet to feel the 'clarity' others talk about. Maybe the closest thing for me is that when I wake up in the morning (or even in the middle of the night) I am awake. I am ready to go, no dragging out of bed, sluggish nor slow. Eyes open and feet hit the floor. That is about as close as I have gotten to a mental change. I am not sure about the keto bliss. I do feel better than I ever did between being off medications for an auto-immune disease, the weight loss and the shift in daily energy. I don't have like crazy made energy from carnivore, but it is more steady and feels readily available throughout the day. I do longer fasts myself, anywhere between 72 and 96 hours once per month. I did do a 7 day stretch a couple of months ago. I do find a lot more energy while fasting than when eating. Hope you can find the path that helps and allows you to sustain. Scott

Again, from the outside looking in as I have no personal experience. I could see (maybe) using the drug to get the weight off and at the same time adjusting the way of eating and such to help keep the weight off. At some point not being dependent upon the drug. I am sure if I stopped eating carnivore and went back to my dumpster diet from before I would more than likely gain the weight back, and probably add some more. I have a guy at work who tried the carnivore diet and lost a bunch of weight and relieved some lower back issues. In time he eased back to eating like before and gained the weight back. He is now on one of the "ozempics", not sure of the brand. He was on the office phone the other day asking about having his dosage increased. When he was off the phone, I suggested carnivore again and he said the shot was just easier. I think that is the approach of most. "I don't have to do anything and lose weight". I also thin for the marketing departments it makes for a really easy "sell". Scott

Agreed. I watched a video with him doing pull-ups with the Secretary of Defense with some young military guys. He looks to be in really good health, physically, and from what I read a straight carnivore guy. He might be a politician we can believe. LOL Scott

The big thing is that they seem to work for so many people. The drugs allow the weight loss with little to no effort. Most are looking for the easiest route forward on everything and if one has struggled with weight/obesity/health issues 'taking another pill/shot' is nothing. Statins 'fixed' so many things for so many people. 'Asbestos' was a miracle product in all forms of construction. Seed oils were a better option than animal fats. Etc. Etc. The only thing that really changed people's minds was time. The GLP-1's are in their infancy and already there are some issues with bone and muscle loss. I am no medical professional but it feels like these will be the tip of the iceberg years from now. I don't think they are for me. But with that said, if they work for someone and get them where they need to be, then so be it for them. And this is from the outside looking in, but the handful people I know using the drug are not coupling it with better eating or exercise or lifestyle type changes to make something after the drug being sustainable. In one way or another, it becomes a life-long need. Scott

Yep. I'm right back at it just about immediately after. I am guessing everyone's plans have obstacles and bumps in the road. Luckily mine are very minor and sort of funny and not all that impactful (except for the first ten minutes with the guy on the porch). Last night at work we were talking about carnivore and fasting and I made mention that I have one employee that could single handedly stop my fasting. It is hard to fast when presented with a huge, very well prepared tomahawk steak, coupled with the appreciation I had for it being a 'show of appreciation by my shift'. Sort of babbling. Just a quick post this morning to wind down from nights. Scott

Funny how things work out. A month or so ago, maybe more I started my weekend fast while pulling night shifts. On Sunday night the shift decided to cook and have a 'work supper' together. I told them I was fasting and they all know about carnivore. Just as they were sitting down they called me to the breakroom. They threw in a got me a tomahawk steak that looked huge and very appealing. It was such a nice thing they did I broke my fast with a tomahawk. This weekend I started my fast on Friday and on Sunday the shift cooked again for the Super Bowl. They made me some really nice burger patties. Plotted my trips to the gym for this week. On Saturday morning I was planning on going to the gym after nightshift. I ended up having to work over. Planned again for Sunday morning but it was 8F so I had to come home and get the animals straight after a night in the single digits. Moved it to Monday and had to work over again. I told myself nothing would keep me from going this morning until I had an emergency phone call from home. This guy we paid to cut tress down ten+ years ago broke down near here and walked up on my daughter-in-laws porch at 6AM. He was drunk and banging on the door for some tools to change a tire. It scared her half to death as she was home with her three month old. Unfortunately, when I got the call it was 'some guy' and I dropped my tools in the floor and left a pump in mid-repair. I was on pace to make the 40 minute drive in 25 minutes and my wife sent me a pic from the security camera. He is harmless, and a super nice guy, but drunk he didn't realize how it came across. Crisis averted at home and I missed out on the gym again today. Maybe tomorrow. LOL Scott

I truly enjoy the exchange of information. I probably use the site more to wind down after shift work. I stop by, read some, post some and then crash. If I weren't on the carnivore diet I would say "I am having my cake and eating it too". I don't know of a meat-eater saying that says the same thing. LOL Scott

Congrats to all. I enjoy stopping by. Scott

I am sure it is more than I am making tonight on shift. LOL I work near the EL plant in NC and they are expanding just to keep up. They can't make enough right now. It's the new miracle drug. Scott

Tons of money pushing those products. Scott

My Pops use to say he bought my mom a clothes rack that came with a belt, a motor and a display screen. Scott

The same here. I bought a set of weights and put them out in the small shop behind the house. Probably the most effective workout with them was unloading them from the truck to the shop. LOL I like the variety of the gym but for me if I am paying for it by the month I will use it. Maybe one of the silver linings of being cheap. Scott

Calories are marketable is one of the more impactful statements near the end of the video. I watched a video with a pro weight lifter who does a lot of science stuff with lifting and eating. He has a video where Atwater was debunked within a couple years of his work being published but by then the ball was rolling. The word calorie now has an understood definition that is the furthest from its true meaning. Considering impacts to labels and the food industry it would take billions and billions to make it correct. Scott

I tried them in 2018 and thought I was allergic to them because I had everyone of the reaction symptoms. Turns out it was the final straw in triggering my auto-immune issues. Probably had them off and on for the longest but never all of them at one time until I took three-four days of a statin. I can't see me ever going that route again. Scott

For years I ripped on people who watched videos on youtube and reels etc. and now the tables have somewhat turned. I watch so many carnivore and animal based eating videos I can't remember the titles and hardly remember the names of the people making the video. I think it is Primal Gal or Primal Bod but she gets really deep in this one video about how everything turns to sugar, basically saying that a slice of an apple with peanut butter is no different than a snickers bar, it all turns to sugar. I eliminated sugar for a long stretch and found some healing I never seen coming. It was like a killer weight loss program with an even better bonus plan. I sort of accidentally/intentionally (mostly just not paying attention) reintroduced some sugar thru the protein drinks I was buying. Then at Christmas I ate some mashed potatoes and green beans (with green beans being one of greatest things on earth, LOL). On both occasions I learned that sugar is way more powerful than meat. On strict carnivore I had basically zero appetite. If I ate today I had no interest in eating, no did I fell hungry until the next day, and sometimes even late into the next day. I have said before I have been amazed at how much other people can eat at one sitting. But since I started using the protein drinks and the little bit of sugar in the protein powder I have an appetite. The little bit of sugar has sort of overcome the satiability of the fatty meats. Going in to carnivore I had zero cravings and had zero issues with breaking away from sugars and vegetables and breads and pastas. But since bringing back sugar I have an appetite and I can see how important it is to choose the right things to eat when that happens. The sugar triggers the appetite and the appetite does not care what you choose bring satisfaction. If one chooses crappy sugars the body will crave more sugars. The meats can off set some of that with some satiation and some satisfaction. I think I learned quite a bit by doing things the wrong way, LOL. Scott