Nas547

hi I am a  new member big carnivore believer lost 34 pounds in 2 months and now I have 2 problems 1st is whenever I reach a certain weight I succumb to cravings and gain 3 to 4 pounds wich sets me back and it has been like this for several months. 
 
as for fruits and honey as I need my ldl to be low mandatory medical for work and ldl flags every time I though about adding some carb in form of fruits or honey especially honey since I read that it could help with both lipids in the blood and the adipose cells. 
 
now the questions that arises are
 
will it help me health wise cause I felt great on  pure carnivore meat salt and water but I can't seem to sustain it generally coffee and cyclical cravings .
 
will I be able to maintain moderation with fruits and honey and get the results I am looking for lower cholesterol and maintain my fat loss with carnivore cause I still have 30 pounds to lose .
 
 
 
thanks for the help looking forward to hear your opinions 

Welcome Nassim. We are glad you could join us. 
As to your first problem. You are having cravings because you have not gotten over your carb addiction yet. It can take time and even after you get over the physical cravings you can still have physiological cravings. On the physical side you aren’t eating enough fatty meat. Any time you get the urge to eat something you shouldn’t eat then eat some fatty meat. I always have hard boiled eggs handy or cooked bacon. There’s always some meat cooked in the fridge that I can grab as a snack if I need to. Generally if you eat enough at your regular meal you should be satiated until it’s time to eat again. That’s why so many of us end up eating OMAD. It’s all about getting your mind right. You’ve got to be committed to eating this way for life and you got to be determined not to fail. 
Now your second problem. 
You said “ I need my ldl tobe low mandatory medical for work”.
I’m not too sure what you’re talking about there. Are you saying that it’s a condition of employment that your LDL be low? I’ve never heard of anything so draconian in my life. It’s nobody’s business but yours what your number are if that’s what your saying. Those numbers are totally arbitrary anyways and mean nothing. 
If that is the case then you are in trouble because as a carnivore your cholesterol is going to go up. It has to because as you are fueling your body with fat in the form of ketones there will naturally be more cholesterol running around your veins. It inevitable. 
In my opinion you cannot maintain a carnivore lifestyle and eat fruit and it’s definitely not going to allow you to get over your addiction to carbs and the cravings. 
Now you can go Keto and that allows you to eat fruit as long as you keep the carbs under 20 grams but I personally don’t believe the fructose is good for you. You would be better off eating leafy greens rather than fruit in my opinion. 
Yes you can maintain moderation but if you struggle now with it on carnivore do you think you can do it on Keto? 
I the end you just have to experiment. We are all different and you need to eat in a way that works for you. I think that if this is too difficult for you or you you feel the need to reintroduce something to your diet then I think you should try it and see what happens just be prepared to go back to eliminating that food if it doesn’t work out. 
Goid luck. 
 

I'm still new, just shy of six months. 
Every so often I drink a couple glasses of milk, here and there. I have stalled a couple times and usually it is just after I hit the milk two or three times in a week. I'm not so sure milk is the stall 'culprit', possibly coincidence. 
I'm on meats, salt and water just about all the time and the only thing outside of that is the milk. 
I guess giving into cravings can be an issue but I guess it would be more about how much you eat on the cravings. The carnivore diet is about eliminating foods. Dr. Berry has a video on going carnivore and then re-introducing eliminated items to identify what works for the individual.
I would celebrate the 34 and identify the plan that got you to 34. Although I haven't strayed outside of carnivore per se, I have changed the ways I eat, what I eat and when I eat to 'come off a stall' or offset a weight swing a couple-three pounds up or down. I have been on the 70lb mark for maybe a month or so, bouncing up and down a couple three pounds on each side of 70. 
I mostly do OMAD but have found I drop a couple pounds by eating just after I work out (a couple-three eggs) and then a normal OMAD on the non-workout days. 
Good luck. I'm not sure I answered your questions but I have hit similar points in the past 5 plus months. 
Scott

I think we're all brothers and there is no need to be a carnivore zealot or purist. Those that eat an Animal-based diet are welcome here. If enough Animal-based dieters eventually join then we can create a forum for them or rename an existing forum to sound more accommodating. The emphasis on keto-carnivore stems from my personal experience. Most people I know in this space are doing zero carb carnivore for weight loss purposes and for optimizing their health.
I don't think fruit is going to kill anybody in general. Certain people, like diabetics, should exercise caution, because fruit has sugar, sugar raises insulin, etc etc. It will also kick one out of ketosis and slow down weight loss. But if you're metabolically healthy and have reached your goal weight and want to eat some fruit, then you do you.