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Most supplements can, really. Including vitamin K or C. Supplementation should always be approach with care. Start low doses. Good point.

And, understand that the weight you lost in that period of time is already extraordinary. Pat yourself on the back and do not stress about plateaus. Losing weight is stressful on the body and it needs a break sometimes. Slow and steady is always the best choice. You've never been able to achieve this on carbs. It took a lifetime to get fat, and it will take a while to re-program those fat-cells, hormones, gut bacteria, etc.

Look but don't touch lol

The infamous treadmill...

For my self I see it in a similar way, not really a craving but a memory of it. It has less power over you, there is not so much a physical attraction to the former food, but a fond memory of all the dopamine, the overwhelming tastes we allowed ourselves to get used to.

Those first few weeks... there's a lot going on. Just plow through it, minding your electrolytes of course. Learn from every single meal.

I workout in a weekly cycle. Daily is not a must, as muscle growth happens when you recover. I have a set amount of workout I want to have done but allow at least three rest days in between. I also make sure I split my exercises, push, pull, legs split. A workout lasts no longer than 40 minutes, it needn't last any longer. Keep it simple. I do slow moving heavy weight lifting, in a controlled manner. The key is knowing what you want. Don't do everything together, cardio or HIIT, if that is what you want, pick a different day for that. You workout in a way, that you can do eat forever, much like your diet. Jumping jacks and burpees are all fine but they are just a risky form of cardio. A slow jog/brisk walk will do the same for cardiovascular health. No need to get injured over cardio. Keep it simple and you'll be able to do it for years. You really only need 4 compound exercises per workout, from there only consistency matters.

Oh yes...

Looks good! Also, a reminder to use that thread-mill you bought. You're welcome.

Statements like that just help me see who is bought and who isn't. This also goes for politics, education, archeology, science, etc. The list goes on and on. I do not know who that guy is either, probably because over the years I've chosen my sources carefully. No mainstream news, no Twitter, no Tiktok. It's not that I dislike having my mind changed, but the fact is, my mind has already changed. The fact is that we get bombarded with lies, so much so, that we are not willing to believe anything anymore, thus killing our ability to think for ourselves, even if initially, we do not fall for the lies. The end result is much the same.

Carb hunger is more aggressive, obvious, in your face, like a Karen. Carnivore hunger is like a stalker, a killer in the night, it sneaks up on you. Consider fat intake, and mind your electrolytes, with regards to feeling empty.

6.45 Am... I am sipping on some coffee (with butter) WITH STEVIA! I failed again!

Welcome, also, to you @Laura

I'm afraid without my stevia...the last bastion of sweetness in my life. Silly isn't it?

Coffee with butter and stevia. Eventually getting rid of the stevia, then getting rid of the caffeine, that step is scary to me lol.

Your sins are forgiven. I've had Gyros in the Kent area, also a festival, maybe the same, some 10 years back or so? That was good Gyros and I've been to Greece.

50 days is quite the accomplishment already, so you got that. 50 days may also be too soon to experience some of the benefits you are seeking, it's all so individual. To me it sounds like withdrawal of those carbs, those carbs may well be a crutch you're leaning on when you've got an anxiety attack. We've got such a hormonal/chemical response to refined carbs, they can offer an escape or soothe ones angst. We tend to tie emotion with eating, we do this even on our birthdays with a cake! Hang in there and ask questions, no one is an expert on but their own experience, nonetheless there's a lot to be learned.

All good here @johnnypepperoni I just read your response but I don't take it personally. We're all humans living the human experience. So long as you know I was trying to help. You've got my sympathy, well wishes, and concern, for what it's worth. And I am well aware I can come over harshly -us Dutch folks we speak our minds, for better or worse. Good luck and I truly hope things will get better for you.

The irony. You're the dismissive one. People are trying to help and all you do is repeat your own negativity. You're defensive, while it's not needed. You really think therapy is a bad idea?

Yes, and I'll spend my entire life getting better. I was doing it before this diet, getting better. The diet though, gave that boost, perhaps the physiological response to food, hormonal, chemical, etc. but also with regards to inflammation, slowing the progression of my auto-immune disease, got me out of being stuck. Along with this diet there is 17 years of working out, working on myself, realizing I was going to live with this, acceptance, grief, and determination. So what if I was wrong in the end. It happened to be so, that the doctor was wrong, because I am in the best shape of my life, and developed the strength I need for dealing with chronic pain. I will look for solutions in everything, the diet just somehow, fitted in, or made things easier. In your case the diet may be beneficial, IF in combination with exercise, (behavioral) therapy, medication (tricky but sometimes necessary). My depression was so obviously caused by physical pain, I had a roadmap out of it because of it. If you're dealing with clinical/major depression, which it sounds like you do, this diet may be just a part of the puzzle.

Welcome to the club. You are indeed heading towards the right direction. Take it slow if you must. Your mindset needs a bit to catch up. And all the old stuff, food pyramids, calories in/calories out, they will deserve another critical look. I am Ketovore myself, and sometimes I even have 40 carbs in a day or 50 even, but I am 7 months in, fat adapted, and it doesn't kick me out of ketosis. You'll learn so much about yourself in the coming months, you may find yourself asking, I wish I knew all this sooner! But whether the process is slow, or fast, easy or hard, you're moving away from the things you know do not work for you. Ask away, @Boband @Geezyare a wealth of information, and really helpful. I am just a smarty pants and they allow me on here for the time being. Much luck to you.

I'm like you, on the carnivore diet, because nothing else worked, for 32 years. I was heading for a wheel chair, chronic pain, every single day. So I can somewhat understand your frustration and perhaps, desperation. We all want to get better. I am not in doubt, of the success of this diet, from what I read, you are. 30 days in and you write it off. That's cynicism at best, and perhaps tragically based on your experience, and feeling hopelessness. What I am saying is, you cannot lean on diet alone with regards to mental health, this diet seems to be a success for a lot of people, that is undeniable. But so many other aspects can influence ones mental state of mind, does this person work out? is this person in a good relationship? does this person have debt? So many external forces at play here, that diet alone won't make the depression just go away. But, and I think we can agree, this diet is a very good start, or part of that journey. So when I say, do not lean on a diet, I mean, do not just use diet, but everything else! Hit the gym, start that hobby, whatever supplies you with an accumulative effect that get you out of trouble. It gives you, and this diet a better chance. You should never be done, you should always keep on fighting what is rightfully yours, your happiness. I am not attacking you, I am offering you a perspective, in which I may seem like an a$$hole, but truly not meant as such. I just can't stand seeing somebody lose hope. I wish you the best.

You cannot lean on a diet when it regards mental problems. It solely lies in the cause of mental distress. Diet can be another helper, and I do hope this is the case for you. But mental struggles can stem from years of trauma, upbringing, years of eating junk, even genetics play a role. I'd strongly advice to give the diet at least 90 days without expectations. Expectations are a killer of many good things, but especially when dealing with depression. I do not mean to sound harsh or judgmental, I just want you to succeed, this diet is indeed, not a magic pill, it does take a mental switch, even for the ones without any mental problems. Do not prepare for failure, as that will be the very thing you'll get. Prepare for success, and be wrong when it doesn't work, then at least, you'll have a lesson, data, to get you to a better path.

Salsa on your burger! I am outraged! 😆