Everything posted by Bob
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Switchin teams (sorry everyone)
How long have you been running Linux? Did you just start?
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Ketosis question?
It can. Obviously when people exercise vigorously, the body first uses up glycogen stores (if any) and then starts relying on ketone bodies. The more ketones your body uses for energy, the higher the ketosis readings will likely be. However, they may read higher than they actually are, because dehydration and the loss of electrolytes can affect these readings.
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New to carnivore, 1 week in.
It's literally the waiting game while your body adjusts to the new lifestyle. This usually takes 2 weeks to 2 months depending on what your diet was like before. The gas and bloat should eventually vanish and almost be a thing of the past. The number 2's will be less frequent overall. It seems odd and initially feels like constipation when you're used to going at least once or more each day. Those will get to the point where you'll span multiple days at a time before going again, because carnivore foods are almost 100% utilized and don't produce waste. You have to decide on your level of strictness and commit to it. Obviously wine and pasta have to go. But you may decide that a variety of seasonings are still okay for you, as well as olive oil, etc. And this is where you might want to even remove seasonings for a while, like 30, 60, or 90 days, just in case an antinutrient or plant defense chemical is behind whatever it is you're trying to heal. The carnivore diet makes a great tool as an elimination diet. Be strict for 90 days. Then, if you want to experiment, slowly and gradually add back in one thing at a time and test it for several days or weeks before adding the next thing back. This way you can isolate if your body reacts negatively to a particular food or food group.
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Autoimmune, new to carnivore needing direction
Welcome @lesliedean :) The Carnivore Diet by Dr. Baker is good. Even easier reading is Lies My Doctor Told Me by Dr. Ken Berry. His book isn't entirely carnivore oriented though. The Carnivore Code by Paul Saladino is chock full of excellent information, but it's very research/study heavy. Very deep. And welcome @LalaH Steak and Butter Gal definitely gets an honorary mention. So does Nutrition with Judy, MyZeroCarbLife (Kelly Hogan), and several doctors in this space have YouTube channels -> Ken Berry, Shawn Baker, Robert Kiltz, Anthony Chaffee, etc.
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SPAM... in a can. Not the kind in your inbox
Pineapple on pizza was okay. Nothing special. I prefer spicy over sweet, so my typical pizza toppings were bacon, banana peppers, tomato, and feta cheese sprinkles, plus artichoke hearts of they had them. I admittedly miss pizza, but I just lack self-control. I WILL eat the whole pie, no matter how stuffed I am half way through it. I can't stop. If I were to treat myself to a pizza like meal again, it would be using the fat boy crust with almond flour, eggs, and shredded cheese. It was a decent replica, and I posted about it on here a couple years ago. Alternatively, I might do a search for a carnivore pizza crust, because carnivore recipes have come a long way in the last couple years.
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Carnivore Diet - Nutrient Deficiency and SCURVY!
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This will be Part 2 of last weeks discussion on what a meat-only diet does to your body. Nutritional deficiencies and scurvy will be some of the subjects talked about during Monday's LIVE Streamed Carnivore Meat-Up. Join Bob and Geoff in the chat or ON SCREEN with your own camera and microphone. You can join us in any of the following ways.... 1) Watch the LIVE Stream and chat with us and other viewers over on YouTube... https://www.youtube.com/@CarnivoreTalk 2) Leave us a Voicemail recording and we will play it and answer it ON AIR. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ 3) Leave your question below and we will answer it during the LIVE stream. 4) Join this channel to show your support and get the link to participate on screen as our guest. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join 5) Register an account at CarnivoreTalk.com and you can get the link to join us ON AIR for free. -
New to group and fairly new carnivore woe
Stalls happen. Dr. Berry will often say that it doesn't qualify as an actual weight-loss plateau unless it's been 90 days will no change in weight. And then, we have to start looking at what we can do. Is there any carb creep? Did we start snacking or eating extra meals? Are we eating before bed? Have we been drinking or increased drinking artificially sweetened beverages? Have we almost but not quite reached our goal weight? (the last stretch is stubborn). Are we eating too lean and not enough fat? Can we start doing exercises, even if it's just squats or walking around the house? Can we cut out dairy? Can we try intermittent fast, OMAD, or extended fasting? Etc. And then beyond lifestyle changes, we could check for thyroid issues and check where your sex hormones happen to be.
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Fenofibrate and Carnivore/keto
Likely ALL of that is (poor) diet related. High carb high sugar diet brought back the weight, made you insulin resistant, and is likely the cause in the rise of your triglycerides. Your eGFR indicates you are on the cusp of Stage 3a Chronic Kidney Disease. You had success before on a keto-carnivore diet, and you can have success again. I would make returning to and sticking to a proper human diet (carnivore or carnivore-centric keto/ketovore) your primary goal. Yes, cholesterol may go up. We do not worry about that. Trigs usually drop dramatically, but in my case they actually went up because of my kidney disease. I no longer recommend fenofibrate. I was on it for a year, and it tanked my kidneys, and I was deep into stage 5 renal failure for a while. I am currently reversing the damage done. If you remain on fenofibrate, get blood labs regularly and watch that creatinine and eGFR. If creatinine rises and eGFR comes down, get off if it immediately. Those trigs might go up during active weight loss but will eventually come down when you reach a goal weight and remain weight stable for several months. Omega-3 supplementation (fish oil) has been known to help lower trigs. I should have recognized the adverse effects of fenofibrates such as muscle twitching, late night leg cramps, and more, but I passed it off as an electrolyte imbalance due to my kidneys. I don't take fenofibrate nor any electrolytes anymore and I am fine. But you want to eat fatty meat, not lean meat. In the absence of carbs, fat is your energy, and your goal is to become fat adapted. The vegetables are optional. Either eliminate them altogether or only eat the low carb cruciferous kind while weight loss and healing are your goals. Later in life you can occasionally treat yourself/toy with a few more single-ingredient plants or fruits, but you have goals to reach first and one of them is getting the addiction to carbs and sweet tasting things under control. So my experience with fenofibrate ended in a nightmare. There is a part of me that wants to take the video down, but at the same time the explanation of what's happening in the body and everything else is still good information. Now I would do diet first. Today I only take meds for blood pressure and that's it. My LDL varies between 200 and 300 and I am not worried. My trigs were up to 2887 at their highest as you know from the video. Fenofribrate brought them down to about 555. And believe it or not, I just tested again 2 days ago after being off fenofibrate since last November (6 months now) and my trigs were 222, proving they would have come down on their own eventually (I do take fish oil). Yes, they say high trigs increases your "risk" of heart disease, but I am still alive and well. "Risk" is relative and so much goes into "risk". Most people who have high trigs eat candy, cakes, cookies, pies, chips, donuts, and other high carb junk foods. But that's not me. My trigs are high for an entirely different reason (most likely that I spill lipoprotein lipase in my urine due to my CKD). So were my trigs still a relative higher "risk". Maybe. I'm not so sure. Now with that said, I know people who take fenofibrate with no issues at all, such as my father. And I know doctors who take statins. For example, Dr. Ford Brewer takes a very low dose rosuvastatin, not for it's LDL lowering effects, but because it helps keep down inflammation. Sure there is a time and a place for these things, but I personally believe that most medications should be temporary, not lifelong, and one's goal is to get to the root cause and fix the issue, which is usually diet and nutrition.
- Over reach and ignorance
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My blood pressure is slowly rising
I wouldn't worry too much yet. Worry and stress will raise it even more, lol. But seriously, blood pressure is expected to go up as we age. In adolescents, the systolic pressure is expected to be between 112 and 128, and the diastolic pressure to be between 66 and 80. As you age this is likely to creep into the 130's (top number). This is the truth right here. The AHA recently lowered their guidelines and started saying under 120/80 is optimal. Before it was 140/90. Interestingly, the American Association of Family Physicians (AAFP) still sets 140/90 as the target for treating hypertension, and even states that lowering it to 135/85 saw no additional benefits. Hypertension - Clinical Practice...HypertensionAccess evidence-based guidelines for managing high blood pressure in adults, developed by the Eighth Joint National Committee (JNC-8) and endorsed by the AAFP.
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Over reach and ignorance
I finally have a raw milk connection around here and tried some. Absolutely loved it, and I didn't die, lol. But it is ridiculous and ironic that raw milk is beneficial yet illegal, and a recreational drug like marijuana which is harmful (in the manner in which most people use it) is legal.
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fasting again/nice video
Indeed. When I am stuffed, I feel like taking a nap, not going out for another hunt, lol. And nothing quite like being hungry for some motivation to get out there and catch some food :)
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U.S. residents - Any big meat plans for the holiday weekend?
This is usually the weekend I open my pool but it has been unseasonably and unbearably cold this last week. And the rain seems like it will never end. However, most MEAT is on sale, so I will be stocking up ;)
- Can you recommend a good carnivore book?
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The sky is falling
Ah, good point. Theoretically I should heal faster than I would have a few years ago on my standard American garbage diet.
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The sky is falling
And guess where is landed? On me.. I was tearing out a tiled shower on Tuesday and the ceiling came crashing down on my face. I'm not a happy camper, lol.
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Carnivore for one year.
Awesome. I'll send you a private message over the next few days and we can set up a time.
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What a Meat-Only Diet Does to Your Body [Video/Podcast]
"What A Meat-Only Carnivore Diet Does to Your Body" is the theme of Monday's LIVE Streamed Carnivore Meat-Up. Join Bob and Geoff in the chat or ON SCREEN with your own camera and microphone. You can join us in any of the following ways.... 1) Watch the LIVE Stream and chat with us and other viewers over on YouTube... https://www.youtube.com/@CarnivoreTalk 2) Leave us a Voicemail recording and we will play it and answer it ON AIR. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ 3) Leave your question below and we will answer it during the LIVE stream. 4) Join this channel to show your support and get the link to participate on screen as our guest. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join 5) Register an account at CarnivoreTalk.com and you can get the link to join us ON AIR for free. LET'S DO A VIDEO TOGETHER! Have YOU had success with a meat-based keto, ketovore, carnivore, carnivore-centric, or animal-based diet? Let's do a video together! Contact me using this form... https://carnivoretalk.com/contact/ JOIN THIS CHANNEL TO GET ACCESS TO PERKS! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join VISIT OUR FREE KETO/CARNIVORE COMMUNITY! https://www.CarnivoreTalk.com HAVE YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED IN A FUTURE VIDEO: Click the link below to leave us a Voicemail, and we might feature your question on the next episode of Carnivore Talk. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ SEND SNAIL MAIL TO: Robert Angle, Carnivore Talk, PO Box 1367 Stow, OH 44224 DISCLAIMER: The Carnivore Talk website, and its audio and video content are for general informational purposes only. The use of the information found within our content or from materials linked to from our content is at the user’s own risk. The content published by Carnivore Talk is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should seek the assistance of their health care professionals to obtain medical advice and to diagnose or treat any condition. We are NOT doctors! #carnivore #carnivorediet #ketodiet #cholesterol #diarrhea #constipation #kidneys #ketobreath #weighloss #inflammation #microbiome #scurvy #mentalclarity #brainfog #nutrition #nutirientdeficiency #diningout #skincare #bloodsugar #sleep 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6627094927114240 View full episode
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What a Meat-Only Diet Does to Your Body
"What A Meat-Only Carnivore Diet Does to Your Body" is the theme of Monday's LIVE Streamed Carnivore Meat-Up. Join Bob and Geoff in the chat or ON SCREEN with your own camera and microphone. You can join us in any of the following ways.... 1) Watch the LIVE Stream and chat with us and other viewers over on YouTube... https://www.youtube.com/@CarnivoreTalk 2) Leave us a Voicemail recording and we will play it and answer it ON AIR. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ 3) Leave your question below and we will answer it during the LIVE stream. 4) Join this channel to show your support and get the link to participate on screen as our guest. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join 5) Register an account at CarnivoreTalk.com and you can get the link to join us ON AIR for free. LET'S DO A VIDEO TOGETHER! Have YOU had success with a meat-based keto, ketovore, carnivore, carnivore-centric, or animal-based diet? Let's do a video together! Contact me using this form... https://carnivoretalk.com/contact/ JOIN THIS CHANNEL TO GET ACCESS TO PERKS! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join VISIT OUR FREE KETO/CARNIVORE COMMUNITY! https://www.CarnivoreTalk.com HAVE YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED IN A FUTURE VIDEO: Click the link below to leave us a Voicemail, and we might feature your question on the next episode of Carnivore Talk. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ SEND SNAIL MAIL TO: Robert Angle, Carnivore Talk, PO Box 1367 Stow, OH 44224 DISCLAIMER: The Carnivore Talk website, and its audio and video content are for general informational purposes only. The use of the information found within our content or from materials linked to from our content is at the user’s own risk. The content published by Carnivore Talk is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should seek the assistance of their health care professionals to obtain medical advice and to diagnose or treat any condition. We are NOT doctors! #carnivore #carnivorediet #ketodiet #cholesterol #diarrhea #constipation #kidneys #ketobreath #weighloss #inflammation #microbiome #scurvy #mentalclarity #brainfog #nutrition #nutirientdeficiency #diningout #skincare #bloodsugar #sleep 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6627094927114240
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What Did You Eat Today?
New York Strip - my staple. My dog has been under the weather and hadn't eaten in like 4 days. Lethargic, falls asleep sitting up and slowly melts into a lying down position. So Friday, Saturday, and Sunday I've made the dog her own steak too. She was happy to eat it and is feeling much better ;)
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States Are Taking Action Against Lab-Grown 'Meat'
States Are Taking Action Against Lab-Grown 'Meat'by Chris Queen | 11:46 AM on May 19, 2025 Photo and steak by the author. As a red-blooded American male, I believe that there’s nothing like a good steak (just like the one in the featured image from the estimable VodkaPundit), some fried chicken, pulled pork, or shrimp off the grill. I’m blessed to have several farm stores near me that allow me to get the best quality meat. One thing that won’t touch my lips as long as I can help it is lab-grown “meat.” It sounds gross, and it can’t be as good as real meat. Thankfully, a growing chorus of states is taking action regarding the nasty stuff, and Montana is the latest state to do so. Gov. Greg Gianforte (R-Mont.) signed HB401 into law at the beginning of this month; that law bans the manufacture, sale, and distribution of lab-grown “meat.” “If you’ve ever had the pleasure of enjoying a cut of Montana beef, you know there is no substitute,” Gianforte announced in a press release. “By signing House Bill 401 into law, I am proud to defend our way of life and the hardworking Montana ranchers who produce the best beef in the world.” Additionally, National Hog Farmer reports that “Indiana took another route this week, issuing a two-year moratorium on the products from July 1, 2025 to June 30, 2027. Following the temporary ban, cultivated meat products will then be required to display the phrase ‘this is an imitation meat product.’” Nebraska has a bill in front of its legislature that would outlaw cultivated meat products, although some legislators are trying to amend the bill to make it a labeling requirement rather than a ban. Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida have enacted legislation targeting lab-grown “meat.” Of course, the biggest argument in favor of lab-grown “meat” is that it’s more sustainable than real meat, but organizations like the Center for the Environment and Welfare and a study from the University of California, Davis say otherwise. The UC Davis study discovered that the potential for global warming (so take it with a grain of salt) from fake meat creation in a lab is anywhere from four to 25 times higher! “The lab-grown meat sector will continue to face headwinds as consumers and lawmakers learn more about the use of ‘immortalized cells’ and the lack of long-term nutritional and health studies around the product," Jack Hubbard, CEW executive director, told National Hog Farmer. “We are seeing a bipartisan consumer movement against the experimental product that we believe will intensify as more learn about how lab-grown meat is manufactured." I’m glad states are taking action, and I hope more states will follow suit. At the absolute least, consumers ought to know what they’re getting. But ideally, nasty fake meat from a lab should never make it onto store shelves. You can help us in our calling to report the truth with the conservative perspective you crave and a dash of style by becoming a PJ Media VIP. Our VIPs are the lifeblood of what we do, and they invest in our mission — plus they receive some great rewards, including exclusive content, podcasts, an ad-free experience, and commenting privileges. It’s a great time to become a VIP because you can get 60% off your VIP membership when you use the code FIGHT. Come join us! Chris Queen is an editor and columnist at PJ Media. He's a UGA alum (#DGD), a fan of anything involving his beloved Georgia Bulldogs, and an amateur Disney historian. He's a Certified Bourbon Steward, but that doesn't make him a bourbon snob. Subscribe to his Substack (for free), buy his book Neon Crosses, and follow him on X. For media inquiries, please contact *****@*****.tld. Read more by Chris Queen ARTICLE SOURCE: https://pjmedia.com/chris-queen/2025/05/19/states-are-taking-action-against-lab-grown-meat-n4939937
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What a Meat-Only Carnivore Diet Does to Your Body
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