SallyB

Well, it makes sense if the clinic involved is not funded by, say, Big Pharma, and therefore has no money to spend on the trial.  We are donating all of our time and effort to make the study work, and the participant gets to know if they are nutritonally adequate on their current diet without paying any medical fees to order the tests. That is all we can offer without funding.  

Here is the website for the overall practice that is currently up, with my private practice site in the (too long)  remodeling phase:   https://www.vitalitymedicine.org/
Apologies for the lack of intro! 
So a bit of background:  I have over 20 years of experience treating severe GI disorders and have prescribed a version of the carnivore diet (SIBO intro diet, animal products only) for over a decade, usually very successfully, in practice.  When I recommend it, I get significant pushback and logical questions such as "How do I know that I am getting all of my vitamins and minerals from this diet?"  Well, there is no actual research that I can find that even begins to answer this question.  There are opinion pieces like this: Current Opinion in Endocrinology, Diabetes and Obesity (lww.com)  There are diet and symptom surveys and positions of concern like this: Limitations of Self-reported Health Status and Metabolic Markers among Adults Consuming a “Carnivore Diet” - PMC (nih.gov) but I find nothing about vitamin and mineral adequacy that actually looks at real patient samples to see if said vitamins and minerals are there, compared to those on a 'normal' diet.  As you may know, standard lab testing generally does not assess most nutritional markers. Thus, this simple study uses a lab designed for the purpose. All we want to do is run this blood test on people who have been on a 90% or more Carnivore diet for 6 months or more (and who have NOT taken any supplements) and see what vitamins, minerals and amino acids are present in the samples. We are not looking at health outcomes or opinions on how either diet 'makes you feel'.  Those are valid questions but are beyond our capacity to test. We are comparing the data to age and gender-matched controls on the 'darling diet' of the nutrition world, the Blue Zones Mediterranian diet, and comparing the results to the 'average' adequacy standards set by the lab.  I would like to be able to tell my patients this information, so we are testing it ourselves.  Please let us know if you are interested in the study! 
THANKS!  Sally

Excellent!  I understand your concerns, there is a lot of weird out there...  It would be very helpful to have links to these resources as I find a lot of chatter and opinion but not a lot of science on the topic! Apologies if these have already been put out there, I am new to the site. 
As I said, we are using the Cell Science Micronutrient Test (Assay). Here is a link to the company:  ALCAT Test | Food Intolerance Test | Food Sensitivity | Cell Science Systems  We have asked the company to provide discounted or free tests for our subjects, and they are 'getting back to us'.  We are open to other tests as well, the study is in the design phase at this time. Also, constructive opinions welcome.  Also, support from anyone more experienced in clinical research also welcome.  I am a doctor, not a researcher! 
Yes, my website is currently being remodeled.  
Thanks!
Sally

Robert, you are an addict. An addict must abstain from their drug of choice. It don matter if it’s alcohol, heroin, tobacco or sugar.
I once quit dipping snuff for two years but I though just one dip wouldn’t hurt. Bam! I was hooked all over again. It was nine years before I tried quitting again. I’ve been clean of tobacco for 18 years now but I know that I can never allow tobacco in any form ever touch me again or I’ll be hooked all over again
There’s no such thing as moderation. An alcoholic can’t just have a beer. A heroin addict can’t just smoke a joint.
You are a sugar addict so you should abstain from not just sugar but everything that’s sweet including all artificial sweeteners and milk products.
Be aware that there are 75 different names for sugar so read your food labels carefully for those hidden sugars.
There are those who are not addicts and can moderate but if you can’t then you must stay away from it.
I can drink one beer and not touch another one for several years. It doesn’t bother me but I’m not an alcoholic. I just choose not to drink anything that is loaded with carbs.
Make your choice what is best for you and your health. My choice was no sweeteners whatsoever. I don’t need the temptation.
If you’ll give it at least 30 days I think you could kick the addiction. I’ve heard some do it in two weeks.
Who’s stronger, you or the sugar?


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Hi,
My name is Robert...I've been doing Carnivore for almost 3 weeks now and a question popped up that you might be able to help me with.

I did Atkins Low carb for 5 years...I lost 80 lbs and kept it off without a blip on the radar....but a bite of pie derailed that...then 5 years of gaining weight...and then calorie counting and doing a LOT of bike riding and working out; weight came back down....then covid hit and my momentum died...I don't do a lot of exercise now...it's hard to get going.

I noticed one thing about me....when I have the option to eat crap....the urge frequently wins....a handful of (even low carb) chips or other treat turns into a lot more ...the whole bag of chips...etc. I do better when there is a clear line that isn't to be crossed.

So here is my observation/question:

I frequently eat something sweet at the end of the day...sugar free jell-o with some reddi-whip (sugar free) on top or something similar, I have a craving for something sweet after all my meals.
I also think that this isn't a good thing...somehow it's derailing me. I've gained a few lbs while doing carnivore and suspect that this might have something to do with it though I really don't know.

Is it BEST to cut out all "sweet tasting" things while on carnivore? Does that inhibit ketosis and fat burning even though it's sugar free?