Nick Heaz

The NHANES II mortality study and the Framingham heart study both include a cholesterol-mortality graph. Cholesterol over 240 mg/dL is associated with increased cardiovascular death. Sweet spot for lowest all cause mortality is 160-240 mg/dL. Don’t think you can high sky high cholesterol levels and never experience any issues.

Can you tolerate fiber and/or would you be willing to include psyllium husk, citrus fruits, or melons into your diet? You could also consider supplementing with citrus bergamot or drinking a couple cups of Earl Grey tea with real citrus bergamot oil in it. Nattokinase, while doesn’t directly lower cholesterol, is known to decrease arteriole plaque and thin the blood.

Fasted insulin and/or c-peptide, Lp(a), apo(b), hsCRP and ESR, as well as homocysteine could all be ordered to better asses your current cardiovascular health and risk of reinfarction. In 3 months time once you’ve been able to recover you should absolutely run a full comprehensive panel and then again in 6 months. Your risk of another heart attack is now significantly higher. Be smart with monitoring your labs and continue to be open to making changes to your health and lifestyle.

My bad. I’m going to simmer down. @Meathead on me. Apologies

Meathead - you really don't like me I can tell. I'm happy to be the only person in this thread to have actually given the original poster actionable advice on assessing his heart attack risk in the future. You do understand that when you have medical imaging done x-ray exposure is tracked in your health records for the sole purpose of not receiving too high of a dose in a given time period? But go ahead Meathead, keep telling us about being healthy as you suck on that vape every 37 seconds like you did on video last night.

We're all on our own journey 👍

Yes! This made me laugh, ty. I think I have been in your shoes. I've been overweight for 3 years, felt my health and energy plummet, my joints have ached when I never injured myself, and witnessed my body turn into a jiggly blob. I did periods of a ketogenic diet going back over 2 years and experienced good things so I decided to go deeper. Ten months ago I adhered to Ken Berry's BBBE diet and followed it for 9 months. Things were great 5-6 months. Steady weight loss, improved energy & mental focus, and less pain. I was super happy. Then all the positives just seemed to stop. Weight loss plateaued and energy tanked. At month 8 the rash along my sides and armpits happened. I sought advice and gave it another couple week, but nothing changed. I could hardly sleep the itch was so bad. After trying to get through the rash for 4 weeks I gave up and ate carbs and the rash disappeared.

Scott - I appreciate you and your approach. This is really great advice. The semantics of it all is a big problem. We can agree on that! Let me break it down: Sugar Fasting--think 'water fasting.' Water fasts are a fast from all macro groups but still includes water. Sugar fasts exclude fat and protein but includes sugar (i prefer fruit, fruit juice, maple syrup and honey). This can be a 24 hour sugar fast or be run consecutively for days on end. The more obese someone is the longer than can theoretically get away with sugar fasting. Rapid weight loss with sugar fasting. Sugar diet--think temporal eating... fruit, fruit juice, maple syrup, and honey morning through lunch followed by protein in the evening. This strategy would used by someone who is coming off of sugar fasting as they begin to approach their weight loss goal. Or as a way to maintain a desired body weight. Less rapid / slowed weight loss OR maintenance. The end goal is to find balance. Like all dietary strategies, some people with find success with it and others will struggle. Again, I don't think that it's for everyone. And for those on carnivore who are curing autoimmune disease, have food intolerance issues, or struggle with sugar addictions this approach just doesn't suit these types of people.

Your mention of fat people failing the sugar diet is spoken about directly by Nick Norwitz in the video and he offers a potential reason why. I’m posing the question of why he didn’t offer the same caution to obese people trying keto considering he provides the same mechanism for fat loss while in ketosis, elevation of FGF21. Perhaps this is the same mechanism for people not having success in ketosis.

seem. In order for this sugar diet to work, you have to eliminate fat and protein, two essential components, and these components are replaced by a non essential component, void of nutrients that are found in the aforementioned macro nutrients. No wonder people lose weight, it's called wasting away. It is not as such that we can't lose weight on carnivore, it just takes longer, and is more challenging. I also hold the opinion that it’s not a strategy that should be utilized long-term. As you mentioned, glycation is something to be factored in. I still hold the opinion that short bouts of the sugar diet does not lead to irreversible effects caused by glycation and this can easily be monitored by taking a look at HbA1c every 3 months. I surely don’t believe 2-3 days of sugar fasting followed by meat consumption is causing AGE accumulation.

Really appreciate your responses.

If things continue at the rate they're going now, I'll likely need another 3 -4 months to achieve my weight loss goal. I started at 226lbs 1 month ago. Current weight is 215lbs. Goal is 175-180. I'm eating meat 2-3x / week right now. Usually a hanger or skirt steak for dinner. My assumption is that short bouts of high carb (2-3 days straight) offset by a meat day will reduce any negative effects from glycation or fructosylation. For the amount of weight I need to lose an entire year on the diet seems excessive. I'm not trying to turn into a malnourished soy boy lol The plan is to achieve my weight loss goal followed up by a diet that resembles Paul Saladino's, though I likely won't require that many carbs at that time. To distinguish myself and my goals from many on carnivore, I do not suffer from any autoimmune conditions, sugar addiction, and I have no food intolerance issues. I'm not on the same health journey as many that may be in this forum.

We all know this was due to the huge increase in ultra-processed and hyperpalatable foods that pair carbs with fat. No one wants to talk about the huge excess amounts of fats the SAD diet includes. Sugar is blamed 24/7 but the next time you're at the grocery store take a look at the ingredients on the processed food. I think you'll be surprised by the amount of fat in there. Sugar diet leans you out primarily because it doesn't drastically cuts that amount of fat intake.

Sugar diet is not designed to be sustained for a lifetime. Nobody is recommending anyone become vegan. The difference that I see is many people on carnivore and keto diets deal with extreme disordered eating in their past like sugar addiction or they suffer from abnormal food intolerances and cannot consume other foods. Most people on the sugar diet that I'm aware of are just wanting to be less fat.... and it's working 😎

I commented a lengthy response. I typed out my thoughts as you went so I apologize for how it reads.