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When I started I would either barely go at all for days, and imagined I was "constipated", or it would be like turning on the tub faucet with so much force I almost elevated off the seat, lol. It took about 6 weeks for mine to return to my new normal. I get diarrhea from time to time, but it's rare now so when I do it may not even be diet related at all. Welcome aboard, btw!
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Welcome aboard @The Hamburgler I've only heard of priming in passing. Never looked into in depth or listened to a video that talked about it. I started with dirty keto, then moved on to clean keto, then ketovore, then carnivore, then lion diet, and now I am carnivore most of the time, save for once or twice a month. Intermittent fasting came easy with strict carnivore, especially when I was laid up with my broken ankle. But when I returned to work it got harder, because I work hard, and a hard working man needs to eat, lol.
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Hi, new Carnivore here...with a question or two.
Bob replied to rpavich's topic in Greetings and Introductions
I must say I am envious of those who have broke their soda habits, lol. I love my bubbles so much. I even purchased a DrinkMate (comparable to Soda Stream) to make my own fizzy drinks, but I usually make some sort of diet soda. I can drink a San Pelligrino just fine, but carbonating my tap water is not very palatable. Regarding artificial sweeteners for taste - for some people it's a trigger and they will go off plan and binge. For others, it causes a cephalic phase insulin response and raises their insulin, hampering weight loss. I'm lucky in that I don't seem to struggle with either issue. -
This makes me think of how the dog somehow knows that either my wife or I is going to pull in the driveway any moment now, even though they can't tell time and have no idea it's 5pm. Internal body clock. Likewise, we may have an internal body clock programmed to eat at certain times, not out of hunger or need, but out of mere routine. We just need to break the cycle.
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10 km = 6.2 miles. 23 km = 14.29 miles. Wow! That is impressive! Welcome aboard, btw You basically listed all my favs
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Help us with a study on Carnivore!
Bob replied to SallyB's topic in Diet News, Medical Research, & Health Reports
Thank you @SallyB for providing additional information about yourself, your practice, and your prospective study. Welcome aboard! What about testing the food itself? There is a lot of information (and granted, we consume most of it through YouTube videos) about how meat and organs are rich in vitamins and other nutrients, and even how these are more bioavailable that their counterparts found in plants. The most infamous examples being how the body has to struggle to convert beta-carotene into the usable form of Vitamin A, retinol, whereas it's already in that form in meat products. Or, how the Omega-3's from animal sources are in the forms we need, EPA and DHA, whereas Omega-3's in plants are in the form of ALA and we don't do an efficient job at converting them to a usable form? Logic would follow that if meat and organs contain abundantly more nutrients vs plants, AND they are already in a form that the human body can easily use without any difficult conversion processes, then a meat-heavy or carnivore-centric diet is going to be very good for you. In the meantime, you might find this video interesting. They has so many tests ordered I'm surprised they even had any blood left, lol... -
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Help us with a study on Carnivore!
Bob replied to SallyB's topic in Diet News, Medical Research, & Health Reports
I let this one through because I was unable to determine if this is legit or not, but I have some reservations. Be aware that DocSallyND.com is a parked domain. There is no website there. There is also no online presence or Google Map location for any business called "Mountain Apple Medicine". There is a "Dr Sally Daughtrey ND" on this page... https://hawaiind.org/nd/mountain-apple-medicine/ ... but our member named has the username SallyB. And some final thoughts.... What is being tested, and what lab is being used? Several key labs are actually very cheap at the lab services we typically recommend. There is a plethora of information on the internet, from nutritionists, doctors, MD's and DO's, etc who have already done this research. My apologies for my skepticism in advance if this is legit, but I have a responsibility to protect the community. -
What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
I was out of town for 3 days attending a convention, and had to pack my lunch. This was my lunch on Saturday...- 1,369 replies
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Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
I would have to look it up, but in the past I dipped them in egg and then pork rinds before frying them up. That seemed to work and is carnivore. If you're just doing keto, I bet you there's an almond flour version out there somewhere.- 1,369 replies
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Whether raw honey is "carnivore" is a debated topic. It's not *directly* made from plants, although bees use plants to make it. Some call or bee vomit, lol. Since I aim to be ketogenic with my diet, this rules out honey most of the time. I think the medicinal use of plants is just fine. Almost all medicines are plant derived. The "challenge" is just a fun way for us to keep ourselves motivated and to hold each other accountable.
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That's definitely one of the reasons why this diet works so well. The food is satiating. It's easy to not snack, and hold off from meal to meal. This gives your body time to actually metabolize some of it's own fat.
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I don't have a set routine at the moment. It's my busy season for my business, which is a physical job. And then when I get home I am still constantly doing stuff around the house, taking the dog for long walks, etc. In the autumn we will hit the trails to participate in the local counties Fall Hiking Spree. For the winter, I bought a treadmill.
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Possible first non-carnivore craving (LOL)
Bob replied to Scott F.'s topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
There are some things I miss. I was a food lover, and could eat just about anything. I certainly had my hyperpalatable favorites. I am tired of yo-yo dieting and gaining back the weight, and when chronic diseases started to be an issue and now they are gone - well - I just can't go back, no matter how much I would love to binge on a pizza or have my favorite burrito, or my favorite dish at the chinese restaurant. -
Lol. Be careful. We have a guy on here that heard the same thing but has been letting us know for months he hasn't seen any miracles yet - but at the same time he has nothing to cure. I'll be curious to see your results. Here's a video I found. I haven't watched it all the way through yet, but it seems relevant here...
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What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
No. And the place where I get them serves them with lemon slices and hot sauce and horse radish so you can modify the taste or spice it up if you like. Raw on the half shell is the way to go. The only other oysters I've had came out of a can ready to eat, like sardines, and they were putrid. --- NY Strip last night. This morning, eggs and sausage. ^ my staples, lol- 1,369 replies
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As long as you want. Beef and eggs are some of the most nutrient dense foods you can put in your body. You can live on meat alone, OR eat a carnivore-centric/meat-based diet that incorporates some more variety from the plant kingdom if you choose, whether that's ketovore, keto, or animal-based. Exercise and weight lifting, which you say you have been doing. Maybe intermittent fasting, which can be done without being hungry by increasing the size of the meals you do eat. Fat and protein can satiate you for hours and hours on end. Learn the difference between feeling hungry and feeling empty. You can try 2 meals a day, or one meal a day, making those meals count. The longer you can fast, the more time your body has to metabolize what you did consume AND burn some of your own body fat. Don't eat before sleep. Don't snack between meals. Maybe. You CAN overeat meat and eggs and you CAN gain fat by doing so. It's difficult, because your satiety hormones SHOULD start functioning properly, sending signals to your brain to stop eating. But if someone put a gun to your head and made you eat and eat and eat even beef, bacon, and eggs, then yes it would be possible to gain weight. Calories can definitely be a factor when you get down to those last few pounds. We tell someone who is 400 pounds that calories don't matter, because for them it won't. They just need to learn to eat right, and let their satiety hormones reset, and the weight will start melting off of them. But you on the other hand, have considerably less fat storage AND you work out, so you are bound to feel hungrier more often than such a morbidly obese person. This is your personal choice. If something isn't working, it's time to shake things up. But only you can figure out what it is you need to do. Do you need to intermittent fast? Do you need to get more sleep? Do you need to workout more? Do you need to up for fat macros? Do you need to eat less? Do you need to carb cycle? Define "effective". If you are already healthy, the carnivore diet will keep you healthy. Eating meat doesn't make you unhealthy. Can you miraculously change your body composition using a carnivore diet? Define "miraculous"? If you're 400 pounds and you lose 220 and reverse disease, then you just might feel it's "miraculous". If you're 180 with a little spare tire around the abdomen like myself and want to be 165 with 6 pack abs, that's going to take some work and dedication. No miracles are gonna happen. I would stay all-natural, eating like a human would back in the beginning. If you can hunt it, milk it, pluck it from a branch or vine, then it's probably going to be fine. For me, this rules out grain and sugar, but would allow for fruits and vegetables that are in fact, fruitages themselves. If you are looking for more variety, you should look into Dr. Berry's Proper Human Diet, particularly, the keto/low-carb side of the spectrum, or Dr. Paul Saladino's Animal-Based Diet, or some combination of the two.
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We should plan a group challenge for September. I will have just returned from vacation then. So I have never had that problem. I've had it stick to me from time to time, but not the bowl. When I started, it would oscillate back and forth between the runs and nearly impossible to get out. But now it is normal most of the time, but can vary depending on what I eat.
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Mine would flip flop between constipation and diarrhea for the first couple months before things returned to my new normal - which is basically normal stools dropping about twice a week. I still experience both of those from time to time. I can loosen things up using more tallow and butter, and I can thicken things up by consuming more cheese. I don't know why it works that way for me but it does.
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New here, got a question.
Bob replied to Jughead's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
I was thinking gelatin. But then @Geezy stepped in with Chris Cooking Nashville's video, and I remembered I really need to try and make some of his outstanding looking recipes -
A couple things could be going on here. For starters, when do you measure your blood glucose to get those readings? 1) Is it in the morning? You might be experiencing what's called the "dawn phenomenon", when a person's body will ramp up glucose levels to help you start your day. You might get a more accurate reading by fasting for a few more hours after waking up before taking your reading. 2) It is after a meal? Regardless of what you eat, when you eat a meal, your blood glucose will go up. 3) Are you eating processed or marinated meats? Look out for "carb creep". Which brings us to... 4) High protein consumption. If you are eating a high protein, moderate to low fat diet, your body will convert that protein to glucose for fuel. Your basically not in ketosis or burning ketones. You will want to increase your fat macros and maybe lower your protein macros. And finally... This can vary per individual and is very common if you are diabetic. Certain individuals will have a much higher sensitivity to protein and will have a greater glucagon release in response to high protein consumption. Fortunately, this is not thought of to really be an issue.
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What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Pic for attention, lol. This was a few weeks ago. I took my parents out to A Plus Crab in Cuyahoga Falls, which is a seafood boil restaurant. These were the raw oysters I got as an appetizer. My dad got me into these. Totally delicious and chock full of Omega-3's, vitamins, and minerals. On Saturday I attended a graduation party. I had a chicken breast and Italian sausages. And then Sunday, a family reunion on my wife's side, where I was able to have hot dogs and hamburger patties. I was able to make it work, but had to put up the palm when people would say "Aren't you gonna have any cAkE??"- 1,369 replies
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