Scott F.

Geezy is spot on. I averaged a pound a day for the first 31-32 days. It may stall on one day and then drop two the next but the average was a pound a day for a little better than a month. A big portion of that was water weight and in time as I became fat adaptive the fat loss was evident in the mirror as well as the scale. Depending on you as an individual at some point you will plane off, some call it a stall, and then the fall will be slower, mostly depending on you and your lifestyle. I would not add carbs just to off-set weight loss. I'm just shy of 9 months in and I have lost 88 pounds. Around 75 or so I started to look sickly. I started eating like a horse and the weight continues to fall. This way of eating can get you a lot closer to your ideal bodyweight. I'm lifting with more frequency and more volume as of late and I'm eating like a horse. I have slowed the weight loss but it still continues with gradual weight loss. Best of luck and I would not re-add carbs at this point (just my opinion). That would be like fifty cent holding up a dollar. Scott

I'm going to go the 'two pair of socks' route for awhile. At some point I will have to do something different. Stepping on and off logs this past weekend just about threw me to the ground several times. I think that is when I really noticed the botts didn't fit like before. The carnivore thing ceases to amaze. Scott

12W. Of all the things people talk about in weight loss, regardless of method, I never remember hearing nor reading about shoe size. I would have never even considered this as a possibility. Scott

This is very petty and my apologies upfront as some people have real issues. I have lost as much 88lbs in just shy of 9 months. I have not had any negative issues thus far and the positives have been simply amazing. Anyone ever lost weight/size in their feet. I bought a pair of work boots that were pushing $200. The last few weeks they just didn't feel the same. This past weekend I am in and out of the woods cutting trees and busting wood for the grill. My feet like my boots are two sizes to big and my feet are slipping and sliding on the inside. I have flat feet anyway, and I guess I had fat feet as well. My 12W's that have fit forever now do not. I tried on a 12 regular for a much better fit. For the next few cold months, I can go with an extra pair of socks but once it get shot two pair of socks just sounds miserable. Of all things I am, I am really cheap. If I have paid nearly $200 for boots I can't wear this entire carnivore concept comes into question. LOL Scott

On one hand 9 days in is not a lot of time to heal/adjust to the carnivore way of eating. And, on the flip side, I have an autoimmune disease that had me on pain and inflammation medicine since 2018 (NMO/SD-basically the same as MS but it attacks the eyes and optic nerves) after just about a month I was pain and inflammation free. I have not taken any of the prednisone not Neurontin/gabapentin since mid-June. I would suggest at 9 days give it some more time to see if it is indeed a flare-up or the normal carnivore diarrhea with your body asking, "what the heck is going on?". Best of luck. Give it some time. Sometimes things happen rather quickly (for some not others) but when it does not, take the smaller wins and build. Scott

Yep. Small steps equal big gains. Your health is more of a marathon than a sprint. As you adjust the times in between will get further and further apart. Nice work. Best of luck. Scott

I would say go in increments. My increments were the way I stumbled into carnivore and the fact I used drink mixers the first few months. Turns out those were increments and steps into being able to fast without hunger. I would have some snacks readily available, like bacon or jerky, etc., just a little something to get you thru. Go as far as you can, small snack, and get to the next meal you need. In time stretch it to where you feel you need. Carnivore is more about elimination not as much as what you eat. The amounts you eat and when you eat can be totally different between you and another. I'd work on the elimination part and then if/when your hunger subsides for periods of time, intermittent happens just by circumstance. Best of luck. Keep plugging away. Small steps make big gains. Scott

I have done a couple fasts since going carnivore. Just a handful of months ago I would have said it would be impossible for me to go anywhere near what would be considered a fast without eating. I was more in tune with being an intermittent eater than intermittent fasting. Soon after getting started, I went with the 'just eat when I was hungry' approach and that quickly turned into about one meal a day. The first time I seen OMAD I had to look it up because I didn't know OMAD was a thing. For me, it sort of happened naturally. Turns out OMAD, is intermittent fasting but without a pre-designated window, nor eating by the clock. Fast forward and there were times when I went a little longer than 24 hours just waiting to be hungry again. I then decided to do a 48 hour fast just to see how I felt and if I could do it. I ate on Friday night at work about 7-8PM. I pulled the 12-hour shift, came home, took care of the animals and went to bed as normal. I didn't eat Saturday night at work and then did my normal 'chores after night shift' without any energy or hunger issues. My plan was to eat Sunday night. I woke up Sunday afternoon fully expecting to be hungry as all get it out. I was not. I made a plate because I full expecting some sort of crash after 48 hours. I made it all night and on Monday morning I came home feeling good and completed my normal chores before napping. I woke up Monday afternoon and still felt fine, not hungry nor anxious, nor jittery from not eating. I made the drive to work. I stepped out of the truck around 6PM and I was around 71 hours or so. It was almost as immediate as my feet hit the parking lot. I felt my energy level drop to below nothing, to the point, the gate to the plant looked like it was a hundred miles away instead of a hundred feet. The two flights of stairs were the hardest two flights I had ever experienced. I didn't feel dizzy or light-headed or like I was going to fall just extremely weak and felt the muscle burn in every step. At the very same time the hunger hit. It was the first time since starting carnivore I was actually hungry and that hunger level was ten times deeper than any hunger I had ever felt. I was empty and drained. I ate before shift change, and I felt full before I finished the plate. Half-way thru the plate I felt full. Soon afterwards the energy level returned to normal. The energy level felt like if I had my phone on charge. I got a 'bar' every 30 minutes or so and after a couple hours I was fully charged. I lost some weight during the 72 hours. I don't think the number was as high as I expected if just looking out at 'not eating for 72 hours' but I did cinch my work belt up a couple times. I'm not sure I felt any better afterwards other than maybe the accomplishment. Maybe the biggest difference is that it changed the amounts I ate at OMAD. Whatever made me full before the fast after 24 hours/OMAD was nearly twice as much as afterwards. And the weight from that point off just shed off, almost without effort. For me, I am sure there were the benefits of autophagy, getting deeper into ketosis, running on ketones, using fat for energy and being more fat adaptive and maybe even some long term benefits I don't know about, but, mostly it adjusted what actually need to eat vs. what I thought I should be eating. Maybe even eliminating my 'habitual eating around times and amounts'. Sorry for the length. Got to babbling. Scott

We did our first carnivore pizza last night. I thought it turned out really good. using chicken and eggs for the crust sounds odd when thinking of 'pizza crust' but it turned out really well. I expected it would have to be eaten with a fork but I was able to eat it by the slice like 'normal pizza'. I added two eggs to a little over a pound of ground chicken with a handful of parmesan chicken. Mixed it together and flattened it out onto a butter covered toaster pan. We baked the 'crust' at 350 for ten minutes and then another three or four minutes on 450. It set for about five minutes and then added ground hamburger, ground sausage, parmesan cheese and then pepperoni. We made a little too many toppings for one pizza so I started over with parmesan, the rest of the meats topping it off with parmesan and pepperoni. Sort of a double decker pizza or a super-duper "meat lovers". It tased really good and the fact the chicken and eggs made a 'pizza crust' was way cool. Scott

Sounds good. I will give it a try. Scott

I'm along the same lines with Geezy except I can't eat that much at one time, well better said, I'm way full and satisfied long before that amount. A month or so ago I started eating two times per day to hit a protein per pound target. When I eat protein/nutrient dense foods it is still a lot for me to eat, even over two meals. This is another one of the both amazing and individualistic things about carnivore. 10 months ago I could add up everything I eat in a day now and eat that much two or three times a day and at certain times during the day I would be 'hungry'. This week I have cut back to just eating when I am hungry which will be OMAD or some days slightly less. I have had off and on diarrhea the last week or so and the only thing that has changed is the amounts of food trying to hit that protein target. I will go a week or so like this and maybe ease back into the protein chase once my stomach/gut get back in check. My metabolism must be in low gear. LOL Scott

I try not to speak in generalities because I have found when it comes to people on carnivore, there is nothing cookie cutter at all. I try to speak from my experiences as even after 8+ months I feel like I am in the infancy of learning. For me, I have found my energy levels are dictated by fat content and salt (electrolytes). My wife is not on the diet so sometimes I don't eat a high enough fat content if our meal is more toward the lean side. When that happens, I can feel a dip in energy, especially around the hour mark when lifting or doing a log walk (on my days off I try to walk 3 miles and most days I wear a 40lb weight vest). If my meals lack in fat I drag toward the ends of working out. If I don't/forget to salt sometimes I feel a lull. I have read where others come almost off salt altogether and some only use minimal amounts and their energy levels are seldom alike. Everything is more individual than anything and that is why I enjoy everyone's personal experiences. I think I learn more comparing experiences with others but not expecting similarities. As crazy as that sounds. Scott

Congrats on the carnivore change and congrats on the 14 pounds. Things will swing back and forth as you progress. I'm at just about 9 months and within that first month I was OMAD not be any design, but I simply was not hungry. I just ate when I was hungry at that just happens to have a name, OMAD. Funny how that works. Fast forward and I have lost a bunch of weight, increased the volume in the gym and now eating twice per day to ensure I hit a protein target. I have always believed eating is as much a habit as it is anything else. I have re-affirmed that as of late by forcing myself to eat two times per day. I got in the habit of eating a big breakfast off eggs and meat and then again at night. This week I rolled back on days shifts and it is just not enough time in the morning to eat like on my days off. I skipped breakfast on both Monday and Tuesday, so back to OMAD. On Wednesday morning I felt like I was starving. I didn't feel hungry but just felt like 'it was time to eat'. No energy levels or true signals of hunger, just it was breakfast time and since I ate yesterday at this time it must be time to eat again today. Purely habit. I started in May and didn't have any cravings or hunger from very early on. Maybe the only time since May I was actually hungry, truly hungry was the 71st hour of a 72 hour water fast. The first 71 hours were hunger free. (I never would have believed it til I tried it). At the 71st hour it was like the hunger spiked up and the energy level crashed. Welcome and congrats on your first month. I try not to speak as a whole, but just my experience, it has only gotten better ever since. Scott

I'm averaging 6-7 days as well. I eat a lot of fat and maybe at times my ratio is slightly higher than the norm. I get loos when I do go. If I lower my fat content and I get a little constipated. Scott

Hope all is well. I did the boring 'at work lunch' today. 3 mongo burger patties with a little cheese and salt. I have not had cheese in a while so I am wondering if it will 'loosen' me up any. Scott

Welcome. I agree it has been an awesome 8-9 months for me. Scott

Excellent reply by Bob. I would suggest fat content, electrolytes, and hydration. The carnivore diet can be ever changing as your body adjusts/heals (maybe the most accurate term is 'detox' but it carries a lot of negative connotations to say someone is in 'detox') Some changes are faster for others, slower for some. If you are having really loose stools there is a good chance you are dehydrated, and dehydration will lessen your electrolytes. Hopefully it works for you, but it takes time and sometimes the time is based on whether you eased into Carnivore or went cold turkey. It is as individual as anything out there. I basically read other people's experiences and see where they may apply to me. Some do and some don't. I switched cold turkey to the diet as far as meals are concerned but I sort of eased into it because I had just bought a 12 pack of Mountain Dew and a tub of ice cream. I simply couldn't see tossing that out. LOL Plus, I had/have an occasional glass of milk. So, although my actual meals are straight carnivore (meats, salt and water) the occasional glass of milk can cause a stall and at times it may trigger some loose stools (but I have not sure enough tied the two together, but it sort of feels/trends that way). Again, hoping you can get your plan figured out. This is a good place to ask, talk and even vent. Scott

Forgot to take a picture. Smoked two racks of ribs on the off-set and a homemade link of summer sausage. Turned out pretty good. Scott

This is very true because the math is not "mathing" at all. I'm eating like a horse. Week before I gained between 4 and 5 pounds. My total lost changed from 86 to 81. I'm eating a lifting so the weight is just a number. I feel pretty good where I am at each day. Then, while still eating a boat load of food (at least it feels that way) and everything else as normal, I dropped those five pounds in three or four days. I had a really good workout on Friday after a 12 hour night shift. I ate four chicken thighs Friday night. Saturday morning I had dropped 2 more pounds. On Saturday I ate 4 eggs and three chicken thighs for breakfast and then a ribeye that was a little over 18oz on Saturday night. I woke up Sunday morning another pound light. I ate around 2 pounds of food, didn't take a dump and woke up a pound lighter. Sometimes the math does not 'math'. Scott

Almost the end of January. I'm eating like a horse. I thought I just felt that way but I am eating a lot. This morning I ate 4 eggs and three pretty big chicken thighs. I just finished a ribeye that was a hair over 18oz. It was mongo. I have been eating like this for several weeks now and the weight lost has bounced around 85lb. Week before last I gained 4lbs. I hadn't weighed in a few days. My pants were 44-46 back in May. I didn't buy any clothes for the longest. A few weeks ago, I got some Carhart pants. The 40's fit pretty good. This morning, they felt loose so I stepped up on the scale. This carnivore stuff is just crazy. I lost 5lbs in the last four days or so. I'm at 86 lost. Just as I thought I was figuring some things out this way of eating throws me a curve. Scott

We might be onto something with this carnivore thing. LOL Scott

This happens a lot in dogs as the bag food diet is better than it ever was, but nothing compared to what they were designed to eat (a lot like us). I have two dogs in the back that are fed any table scraps we have left (not many) but the staple of their diet is chicken backs. I buy a 40lb case every other week. I step out the back door and toss a couple-three backs to each dog. This week our temperatures are atypical, and we have been below freezing since Monday night. I boil a few of the backs and feed them the fatty broth. One is 13 and the other is 12 and both move and act like they are three. The 12-year-old had six littermates. Our female died just a few months ago at 12 and he is still kicking at 13. The other five were fed bag dog food by their owners and none lived past 8. I'm not expert enough to say there is correlation between their diet and lifespan, as my wife goes all out on their care, but I think the diet played a huge role in their longevity, healthy and active longevity at that. As an example, my wife inherited a pet pig from my son. We are in the grocery store a few years back and she grabs a bag of green apples. I speak up and say I'm not a big fan of the green apples and I actually like the smaller, harder red apples. My wife quickly replied, the green apples are for the pig, if you want your own apples, 'get you some red apples'. And since I am night shift, I will babble some more on her thought process. We had a yard beagle and a house Fila Brasileiro. The Fila weighed about 170lbs. The big dog was let out to do his business and he followed the little dog to the pond. The pond was frozen over. The little dog took a stroll out across the ice and the big dog followed and he broke thru. He was basically in a hole and could not climb out. My wife is screaming, and my son is balling. I take a large rock and break out a chunk of ice. They hand me big rocks and I waded out in the path I was creating. The last rock broke some ice and gave the dog a path to the bank. At 170 he knocked me over as he came by, and I went almost completely under. As I struggled to the bank nearly freezing, feeling the water freezing in my beard, my wife was wrapping the dog in a blanket and rushing him back to the house. I'm not sure she ever looked back. I was pretty much 'on my own'. The animals at our house live like kings/queens. Scott

Gerat cold weather meal. Scott

This is a "I dare you to turn your back look". Great pic. We have had a bunch of dogs over the years. I had several Fila Brazileiros way back when, a Rottweiler, hunted with beagles, coon hunted with English Red Ticks, the last two were an English bulldog that lived to be 16 and her pup (mixed breed/long story) who lived to be 13. We have two in the back that are 14 and 13. First time we have not had an inside dog in 25+ years. I'm not sure if people know this but without a dog in the house if you drop food you have to actually bend over and pick it up yourself. Who knew? Scott

I may have posted this in a another thread. Go to mushing.com and read an article called "Rendering the sense of fats". How the dogs were once fed, then advancement in nutrition and thought process, and then back to being a high fat-high protein carnivore for success/performance. Their diet and our diet along with both of our diet history are remarkably similar. Almost parallel paths. Scott