Scott F.

I was thinking the same. This forum might be as 'mainstream' as it gets.
Scott

And just when I thought I was in a position to provide some applicable information, 'ol' carnivore thru me a curve.
I ate an awful lot since Wednesday. I didn't eat an actual meal since Wednesday morning. I packed all the meats I cooked into quart bags for the trail. Every couple hours I would eat whatever bag I had pulled that morning. I ate off and on, more akin to snacking, all thru the day. Between eating multiple times per day and even late at night as we did night rides I thought my weight would go up. It did not.
I dropped 2 pounds since last Wednesday. Completely unexpected.
Carnivore threw me an 0-2 curve and I whiffed.
Scott

It is not always about how much you eat and sometimes what you eat plays second fiddle to when you eat. If you can skip the traditional breakfast and eat later in the morning it will give your glucose time to spike up and then drop back some. By then you are active in your day. I too work a lot of nights and it is really easy to get off work, eat and go to sleep. That is a bad combination for weight loss. Then couple that with eating the wrong foods. Double whammy. I lose faster when the fat content is up for a higher fat/moderate protein approach. I left home on Wednesday morning at 215. I am sure I will see a weight gain tomorrow when back at home. I have eaten the right things but have not had a meal since we left. I have been snacking on the meats throughout the day while we ride. I ate a lot of food but never let my body adjust/empty/make room before I was snacking again. Timing will be more my issue when I weigh tomorrow.

I'm more of a content guy so the platform or display seldom resonates with me. 
That is no discredit to the time and effort you put into the upgrade or the change. I had this very conversation with our code/programming guys as we automate our 'older' production plant. "This is what I need it to do but what color or font or graphics you use does not mean that much to me".
However, I did learn and have a new understanding for what a 'busy and too busy' screen looks like. 
Whatever you need to do is way above my head but as long as I get the benefit of having access to the knowledge and experience floating around in here, I'm good. 
Thanks for providing that.
Scott
 

Late to the thread. Welcome. I agree the inflammation is the body telling us something is wrong, really not much more than a heads up. Most medical thinking is to treat the inflammation as the problem not the root cause. No heart issues or experience but my inflammation went away ~4-6 weeks after going carnivore. My pain and inflammation was from an autoimmune disease and the prednisone and Neurontin treated the inflammation. At least it helped me remain functional. Six weeks of Carnivore and not only did the inflammation go away but my immunoglobulin numbers started to move toward healthy. 11 months later and I am on the cusps of being normal but I will have let my wife define normal. LOL . Your correct, carnivore can provide healing. Good luck, and welcome.

I cooked five Chuck steaks, five chicken thighs, two big packs of boneless country style pork ribs, two extra thick pork chops and 12 hard boiled eggs before leaving for a five day trip to ride side by sides in West Virginia. Each day I reach in a grab a gag as we head out. Each day is a surprise meal on the trail.

Prior planning prevents poor performance. That is five of them but the sixth is a tad bit off-color. 

I fast for the immune system reset. The autophagy and HGH release and then the stem cells pour out into the body are all pluses. On top of that there is killer energy coming out of the fast that lasts two-three-four days. I’m tracking mine but I think my energy baseline is better after several long fasts. Hard to say that for sure but it sort of feels that way.

I cooked five Chuck steaks, five chicken thighs, two big packs of boneless country style pork ribs, two extra thick pork chops and 12 hard boiled eggs before leaving for a five day trip to ride side by sides in West Virginia. Each day I reach in a grab a gag as we head out. Each day is a surprise meal on the trail.

Late to the thread. Welcome. I agree the inflammation is the body telling us something is wrong, really not much more than a heads up. Most medical thinking is to treat the inflammation as the problem not the root cause. No heart issues or experience but my inflammation went away ~4-6 weeks after going carnivore. My pain and inflammation was from an autoimmune disease and the prednisone and Neurontin treated the inflammation. At least it helped me remain functional. Six weeks of Carnivore and not only did the inflammation go away but my immunoglobulin numbers started to move toward healthy. 11 months later and I am on the cusps of being normal but I will have let my wife define normal. LOL . Your correct, carnivore can provide healing. Good luck, and welcome.

Welcome and good luck.
Bob hit the points you mentioned, spot on.
Everyone is different and no one approach works for all. You may need to ease into it. Carnivore eating is much more about what you are not eating. You may be able to go 'cold turkey' on the carbs and sugars. If so, great, if not, any reduction in carbs and sugars will be better than no reduction at all. 
Don't worry about 'bothering' anyone here. This is a great place to learn and an even better place to offer up your personal experiences with carnivore. Everyone has a story to tell. At 77 and me being 55, I need to figure out how to get there too so your experiences are worth their weight in gold, at least to me anyway.
Good luck. I'm 11 months in and I can personally say it did wonders for my pain and inflammation. I think everyone should give it a try.
Scott
 

Welcome and good luck.
Bob hit the points you mentioned, spot on.
Everyone is different and no one approach works for all. You may need to ease into it. Carnivore eating is much more about what you are not eating. You may be able to go 'cold turkey' on the carbs and sugars. If so, great, if not, any reduction in carbs and sugars will be better than no reduction at all. 
Don't worry about 'bothering' anyone here. This is a great place to learn and an even better place to offer up your personal experiences with carnivore. Everyone has a story to tell. At 77 and me being 55, I need to figure out how to get there too so your experiences are worth their weight in gold, at least to me anyway.
Good luck. I'm 11 months in and I can personally say it did wonders for my pain and inflammation. I think everyone should give it a try.
Scott
 

Agreed. Crappie and bream are the go-to's around here and you just can't beat cutting up catfish into nuggets.
A few years ago I was at my brother-in-law's down on the NC coast. A buddy of his was putting shrimp, talapia and copia in a blender and making a fish paste. He then made balls, battered them and deep fried them. If you have never experienced being conditioned via Pavlov's theory, I have. Every time the deep fryer bell would ding, I was standing right there.
When Geezy mentioned fried fish/seafood that popped into my head.
Scott

I can go the Trouts and Salmons and Tunas. The Mackerals and Sardines not so much.
The Salmon I can eat by the five gallon bucket.
Scott
 

Thanks.
Cooked on the griddle alongside whatever else they were cooking. 
When I looked back into the kitchen it was a normal size bottle of oil but to me it stood out like it was a five-gallon bucket.
One of the oddities with carnivore (for me anyways) is that I ate using seed oils my entire life with no issue. Once I went five-six months without them the least bit now sends me running for the bathroom. 
My wife cooked some fries one night and then did the burgers in the same pan. She said, "I forgot" and I said, "shouldn't matter all that much for no more oil than is there".
It did. 
Scott

I'm leaving for West Virginia in the morning for a four day ride on the Hatfield and McCoy trails. Last year was my first trip while on Carnivore and I didn't plan all that well. I ended up eating some plain burgers cooked in vegetable oil. It landed hard and I had some unexpected pit stops along the trail. 
This year I am trying to plan a little better. There is also two packs of country style pork ribs and two NY strips that didn't show in the pics. It should be enough to hold me from Wednesday til Sunday. 
Not really complaining but it is a bit easier just to eat where everyone else eats. LOL
Scott

The same boat here. I check it every day. And it moves up and down.
When the weight first started falling off there were many more days of losing than gaining. At that time, it was frustrating and somewhat disheartening if it went up a couple pounds unexpectedly. I would over analyze everything I did the days prior. 
Now after losing 90+ pounds and the 'number' not being as important as it was back then, I check it daily but the swings are a lot less impactful. I don't over analyze what I have eaten or the last couple workouts or the days activities. Most of that changed when I started counting protein. I guess I know I am eating a lot so at some point the weight has to move up and when it does, it is not that big of a deal. 
Scott

Agreed. Crappie and bream are the go-to's around here and you just can't beat cutting up catfish into nuggets.
A few years ago I was at my brother-in-law's down on the NC coast. A buddy of his was putting shrimp, talapia and copia in a blender and making a fish paste. He then made balls, battered them and deep fried them. If you have never experienced being conditioned via Pavlov's theory, I have. Every time the deep fryer bell would ding, I was standing right there.
When Geezy mentioned fried fish/seafood that popped into my head.
Scott

Congrats to you as well. 
I was really interested in knowing the blood ketones and I will use them on the next fast after that as well. From there, I am not sure. I bought the test kit and it came with either ten or twelve testing strips. It was like $35 for the lance, looks like 25-30 lancets, and the meter. Another set of test strips is like $40-50. I'm not sure I see the point (sort of cheap on a lot of things)
I work rotating 12-hour shifts. Four nights followed by three days, then three nights followed by four nights. As I am finding it is really hard for me to eat a gram of protein per pound of ideal bodyweight (that does not even count the needed fat to make that a high fat/moderate protein approach vs the high protein/moderate fat approach). Right now, that is a lot of food. My plan for next month is to fast on the three nights and the four nights, make an attempt to hit the protein mark on the other days but not gorge myself chasing a number. The protein chase is to gain some muscle, but I am not lifting to be the next Mr. Universe/Mr. Olympia. At 55, that ship has sailed.
"spreading the word"..... when I say I only eat meats, salt and water one group of people look at me like I am crazy and the other group at that point automatically have a Medical degree and tell me how I should be eating. Then bring up the fact I am going 96 hours without eating, nothing but water/salt, and that first group looks at me like I should be committed to an asylum and the second group uses their newfound medical degree to start CPR or a lobotomy, depending on their newly found specialty. 
Maybe the bright spot in that is a younger guy at work. He gave Carnivore a try, it started working early, and he has been doing for several months now. He told me this morning he was -46lbs. Another theory of mine, I waited til I was 55 and just about beat down form life's choices and it has worked wonders for me. This guy didn't have any serious medical issues other than being fat. It looks like it is working faster and more effectively if the canvas is a bit cleaner. I am guessing the earlier and healthier one starts the even better the end result will be, but that is just an opinion of mine.
Scott

As of this morning I have read all the articles and watched all the videos on carnivore and fasting. LOL (Youtube sent me a notice saying I had made it to the end of the line-actually it was an alarm saying my crystallization and neutralization process needed my attention-both pretty much the same)
I have been on Carnivore for a tad over 11 months now and as of late have been digging into fasting on a regular basis. I don't know if I am weird or just built different, but I have only had positive results from both. I have had only two issues, one expected and the other not so much. I have had bouts with loose stools, some self-inflicted by not-so-good choices, and others just didn't get the fats and proteins, and water and electrolytes lined up as well as I should. I think anytime there is a switch in a diet there will be some 'looseness' during the adjustment phase. I guess it was expected.
I have lost 92lbs in 11 months and the unexpected 'almost negative' was that I somehow lost weight and size in my feet. I hadn't long bought a pair of boots that were $$$ and all of a sudden, they felt like clown shoes. I had to go to insoles for spacing vs. comfort. 
I think since I was already pretty much fat adapted rolling into a fast was made easier/worked better. I am sure I was in the lower edges of ketosis at the start of the fast and there was not a lot of 'sugar dump' some need. This past time I tracked blood glucose and blood ketones. Initial ketone level was 0.7 and after Day one it was around 1.4 or 1.5. Between Day #2 and Day #3 it reached four and when I did the math for my GKI numbers it got below 2:1, as low as 1.4 to 1. Around the time the HGH start bouncing around and the ketones are everywhere, and the stem cells are being deployed, maybe around 68-72 hours deep the energy level is crazy. From 72 hours until the completion of the 96-hour fast I had crazy amounts of energy. Not nervous or anxious type energy but a simple, "Let's Go!" type energy. That energy lasted 2-3 days after I started back eating. 
I'm reading and learning, I can use a lot of the right words, especially the autophagy/ketosis/ketones/stem cells/HGH, etc. etc. but it still is hard to understand how much energy is available from not eating. It goes against what we have all been taught about 'need to eat this'-'need to eat that' to create and sustain energy. Without the personal experience I would have a hard time believing there is an extended boost in energy from not eating for a couple-three days and then have that energy maintained for a couple-three afterwards. Just a really strange concept for me.
Anyway, babbling on a slow Sunday morning workday. I spent the last hour or so reading older threads, somewhat to pass the time, but mostly to gain experience form other people's experiences. I get bored reading some of the studies, especially when it veers from directly what I am interested in at the time. The headlines and forum titles call out to me as I scroll thru.
Thanks to the board members, both past and present, who have created quite the knowledge base here. Much appreciated.
Scott

Congrats to you as well. 
I was really interested in knowing the blood ketones and I will use them on the next fast after that as well. From there, I am not sure. I bought the test kit and it came with either ten or twelve testing strips. It was like $35 for the lance, looks like 25-30 lancets, and the meter. Another set of test strips is like $40-50. I'm not sure I see the point (sort of cheap on a lot of things)
I work rotating 12-hour shifts. Four nights followed by three days, then three nights followed by four nights. As I am finding it is really hard for me to eat a gram of protein per pound of ideal bodyweight (that does not even count the needed fat to make that a high fat/moderate protein approach vs the high protein/moderate fat approach). Right now, that is a lot of food. My plan for next month is to fast on the three nights and the four nights, make an attempt to hit the protein mark on the other days but not gorge myself chasing a number. The protein chase is to gain some muscle, but I am not lifting to be the next Mr. Universe/Mr. Olympia. At 55, that ship has sailed.
"spreading the word"..... when I say I only eat meats, salt and water one group of people look at me like I am crazy and the other group at that point automatically have a Medical degree and tell me how I should be eating. Then bring up the fact I am going 96 hours without eating, nothing but water/salt, and that first group looks at me like I should be committed to an asylum and the second group uses their newfound medical degree to start CPR or a lobotomy, depending on their newly found specialty. 
Maybe the bright spot in that is a younger guy at work. He gave Carnivore a try, it started working early, and he has been doing for several months now. He told me this morning he was -46lbs. Another theory of mine, I waited til I was 55 and just about beat down form life's choices and it has worked wonders for me. This guy didn't have any serious medical issues other than being fat. It looks like it is working faster and more effectively if the canvas is a bit cleaner. I am guessing the earlier and healthier one starts the even better the end result will be, but that is just an opinion of mine.
Scott

As of this morning I have read all the articles and watched all the videos on carnivore and fasting. LOL (Youtube sent me a notice saying I had made it to the end of the line-actually it was an alarm saying my crystallization and neutralization process needed my attention-both pretty much the same)
I have been on Carnivore for a tad over 11 months now and as of late have been digging into fasting on a regular basis. I don't know if I am weird or just built different, but I have only had positive results from both. I have had only two issues, one expected and the other not so much. I have had bouts with loose stools, some self-inflicted by not-so-good choices, and others just didn't get the fats and proteins, and water and electrolytes lined up as well as I should. I think anytime there is a switch in a diet there will be some 'looseness' during the adjustment phase. I guess it was expected.
I have lost 92lbs in 11 months and the unexpected 'almost negative' was that I somehow lost weight and size in my feet. I hadn't long bought a pair of boots that were $$$ and all of a sudden, they felt like clown shoes. I had to go to insoles for spacing vs. comfort. 
I think since I was already pretty much fat adapted rolling into a fast was made easier/worked better. I am sure I was in the lower edges of ketosis at the start of the fast and there was not a lot of 'sugar dump' some need. This past time I tracked blood glucose and blood ketones. Initial ketone level was 0.7 and after Day one it was around 1.4 or 1.5. Between Day #2 and Day #3 it reached four and when I did the math for my GKI numbers it got below 2:1, as low as 1.4 to 1. Around the time the HGH start bouncing around and the ketones are everywhere, and the stem cells are being deployed, maybe around 68-72 hours deep the energy level is crazy. From 72 hours until the completion of the 96-hour fast I had crazy amounts of energy. Not nervous or anxious type energy but a simple, "Let's Go!" type energy. That energy lasted 2-3 days after I started back eating. 
I'm reading and learning, I can use a lot of the right words, especially the autophagy/ketosis/ketones/stem cells/HGH, etc. etc. but it still is hard to understand how much energy is available from not eating. It goes against what we have all been taught about 'need to eat this'-'need to eat that' to create and sustain energy. Without the personal experience I would have a hard time believing there is an extended boost in energy from not eating for a couple-three days and then have that energy maintained for a couple-three afterwards. Just a really strange concept for me.
Anyway, babbling on a slow Sunday morning workday. I spent the last hour or so reading older threads, somewhat to pass the time, but mostly to gain experience form other people's experiences. I get bored reading some of the studies, especially when it veers from directly what I am interested in at the time. The headlines and forum titles call out to me as I scroll thru.
Thanks to the board members, both past and present, who have created quite the knowledge base here. Much appreciated.
Scott

Well said.
The only thing cookie-cutter in life is actual cookie-cutting. 
Keep searching to find what works for you and once it is working for you, that becomes "your" plan.
Best of luck.
Scott

Some of the fat you speak of is as much environment as it is the split between grass fed and corn fed. The cows in smaller pastures who are fed in the same spot most everyday don't travel much. No need to get too far from the food source. (i.e.. most pigs and chickens are caged/penned, and mobility is at a minimum.
On a much smaller scale I can visually see the difference in my chicken eggs between the ones that are free-range (a politically correct term meaning I simply can't catch them as they are wild-ass game hens) and the hens I have caged. The caged hens' yolks are more consistent. Same feed-same mobility. The 'free-range' hens' yokes differ week to week. The free-range hens are thinner and sleeker looking due to mobility.
I think the difference for us is minimal other than we pay a ton more once the terminology changes. I like fat as much as the next guy, probably more, and on occasion I will climb up the ladder and pay for the 'marbling' but not often. I like fat as much as the next guy, but I am cheap as all get out too.
I'm with Bob, we benefit tremendously from the filtration system of the ruminant animal. 
Scott

My buddy had a tick bite that turned to Lyme disease. He couldn't eat any meats for a really long time. For him, it was not the taste nor the aversion to eating them but the fact he would swell, break out in hives and his joints ached to the point movement was difficult. 
Before being diagnosed he had eaten a burger, jumped on his motorcycle and his first attack hit him at 40mph. Luckily, he brought it to stop and fell over against the roll-up door at the Fire Department. If he had dumped it anywhere else, it would be a different story.
Over time he eased back into fish and chicken, and he is still not eating red meat. Pork is a 'gamble', sometimes he breaks out and sometimes he does not. 
I agree with the posts above. If it were all of a sudden I would get checked out for a tick related illness.
Hopefully you can figure some things out. Best of luck.
Scott