Saxguy

Great to hear you're reaping benefits from a proper human diet.  Keep this in your mind if you decide to indulge.  Your intake tastes good but at what cost in affecting your health. You may slip up like I did and mistakenly eat something with seed oils and I felt it for 3-4 days after.  
Keep up the great work and don't forget where and WHY you started. 

I'm down 7kg now, and I can see and the difference. My daily pain level has dropped significantly. Joints all over are feeling better...fingers, feet/toes etc. I used to rise from resting almost crooked and hobble across the floor. Every day gets easier (carni-food). 

That alone should tell you all you need to know of the benefits of eating a proper human diet. It should also tell you of what would happen if you ever go back to eating the way you used to. So you may want to rethink about not eating this way for life because this is a lifestyle not a diet. You will reverse all of your progress if you done maintain it. But…as Bob said and I agree with him, when you get to a maintenance stage and you’ve got the carb addiction licked you can indulge occasionally but you just don’t want to make a habit of it. The only thing I’m allowing into my diet these days is a few jalapeños occasionally and some seasonings.  As long as they don’t affect me I’m fine with them. If you do stick with this long enough you may even get to a point where you just don’t want that other stuff anymore. Many of us come to that point. For me I see no point in eating them because the don’t provide and nutrition. Could I? Yes. Will I? No, there’s no need to. I don’t miss the sweets and carbs one bit. 

I'm down 7kg now, and I can see and the difference. My daily pain level has dropped significantly. Joints all over are feeling better...fingers, feet/toes etc. I used to rise from resting almost crooked and hobble across the floor. Every day gets easier (carni-food). 

Thank you for that. Im only a few days in, and doing okay to be honest. Went to a friends B'day last night. Watched my wife and our guests eating a huge platter, drinking cocktails/wine etc, followed by a stunning B'day chocolate mud cake etc.... I had a plate of lamb and sparkling water. I surprised everyone including myself at my willpower. Feeling great today. I know I will make 90 days. Might allow myself a Christmas dinner treat. Already lost weight, and friends commented on it. Unbelievable. Cant see myself going the rest of my life eating nothing but meat, but I really want to get to the bottom of ailments, and to see what its like feeling the best I can. The low carb option (eventually) sounds like a great compromise. 

Congratulations on trial by fire. 
I'm almost 5 months in and even stalled at 265 for over a month now. 
I've had too much healing to sacrifice it to cater to the masses for the holidays.  I profess my carnivorous ways and show I'm not ashamed.  I either eat before we go out and watch everyone poison themselves while I am steadfast or I take my own food to the occasion. 
I learned one chicken wing delicious as it was without breading caused inflammation for 3 days and I felt like crap. 
Wish you luck on your journey and we'll be here to support. 

Thank you for that. Im only a few days in, and doing okay to be honest. Went to a friends B'day last night. Watched my wife and our guests eating a huge platter, drinking cocktails/wine etc, followed by a stunning B'day chocolate mud cake etc.... I had a plate of lamb and sparkling water. I surprised everyone including myself at my willpower. Feeling great today. I know I will make 90 days. Might allow myself a Christmas dinner treat. Already lost weight, and friends commented on it. Unbelievable. Cant see myself going the rest of my life eating nothing but meat, but I really want to get to the bottom of ailments, and to see what its like feeling the best I can. The low carb option (eventually) sounds like a great compromise. 

Thank you for that. Im only a few days in, and doing okay to be honest. Went to a friends B'day last night. Watched my wife and our guests eating a huge platter, drinking cocktails/wine etc, followed by a stunning B'day chocolate mud cake etc.... I had a plate of lamb and sparkling water. I surprised everyone including myself at my willpower. Feeling great today. I know I will make 90 days. Might allow myself a Christmas dinner treat. Already lost weight, and friends commented on it. Unbelievable. Cant see myself going the rest of my life eating nothing but meat, but I really want to get to the bottom of ailments, and to see what its like feeling the best I can. The low carb option (eventually) sounds like a great compromise. 

Welcome aboard Kevin @Saxguy 🙂
A lot of good advice above. Give the carnivore diet a good 30, 60, or 90 days. The more the merrier, especially for pain and inflammation and other chronic issues. Then reintroduce single ingredient whole foods. 
Dr. Berry's "Proper Human Diet" is a spectrum from 0 carb carnivore up to 100g of carbs/day single ingredient low carb vegetables. 
Dr. Saladino's "Animal-based Diet" is basically meat, fruit (including certain vegetables that are actually fruitage) and honey.
Personally, I think most people, after healing and achieving weight loss goals, can marry the two - that is, enjoy fruit as long as you stay under that 100 carbs/day.
But for reasons like Geoff @Geezy mentioned above, many people prefer to stay strict carnivore, or at least mostly carnivore (me) because that is where they feel their best.

That is my main goal. Eliminate pain, or the cause thereof. Losing weight will be a bonus, but not the main objective. 
Thanks

Thank you all for the good vibes...and yes Saxguy (muso). 
I honestly don't know if I will stick to carno forever, as I just love my food. Also, we live on a lifestyle block, and we grow veggies and have some wonderful fruit trees. Its spring here now and the trees are blooming, and we have already started our seedlings and young plants. I cant NOT continue with all of this as my wife isn't going carnivore with me, which will make it even harder, and our garden is supplementing our food supply as well as being a source of enjoyment knowing we are growing the best organic produce for ourselves. For me it will be like an alcoholic working in a distillery, with a "all you can drink for free" policy!
I cook for us both, and last night I cooked veggies and steak for my wife (she has a long drive home from her workplace), whilst I could only eat the steak. 
For the life of me I will try to get to a month and see how I feel about it all. I know when I did keto it was torture, but that was balanced by how great I felt. Cant have it all I guess.
 

Just started my journey today with bacon and eggs for breakfast, with pot of herbal green tea. Normally it would be bacon egg and two slices of bread, coffee with sugar and maybe a chocolate biscuit...
I'm in my early 60's, have many health issues including inflammation, arthritis and carrying too much weight. Did lose weight a couple of years ago on keto, felt great, but then slipped back into carbs and all went down hill fast! That time however, I didn't have any help or "community" that I could draw on. I hope by joining a forum or two, and getting inspiration, I might stick to a carnivore diet long enough to make me feel so good that I dont want to feel like s--t again. 
Thanks.
 
 
 

Welcome.

I too had a garden. 
If one is to give carnivore a chance, at least give it 90 days. It may take that long to get fat adapted and see most of the benefits. I loved my food too, and thought how ridiculous that sounded. We are programmed to love food thinking somehow we are a "foodie" a life enjoyer sipping wine at the French riviera.... we're addicted to sugar, period. 

With such a paradigm shift, yes, then one can still decide to go Paleo, or Keto, or any variation you like. But first give it the time it deserves, and allow your view on what food really is (hint, it's fuel, that's it), and make a decision from there. Most likely, much of the pain -the thing we are willing to put us through for the "love" of food- may have subsided and give you an entirely new perspective on diet, etc. 

Just started my journey today with bacon and eggs for breakfast, with pot of herbal green tea. Normally it would be bacon egg and two slices of bread, coffee with sugar and maybe a chocolate biscuit...
I'm in my early 60's, have many health issues including inflammation, arthritis and carrying too much weight. Did lose weight a couple of years ago on keto, felt great, but then slipped back into carbs and all went down hill fast! That time however, I didn't have any help or "community" that I could draw on. I hope by joining a forum or two, and getting inspiration, I might stick to a carnivore diet long enough to make me feel so good that I dont want to feel like s--t again. 
Thanks.
 
 
 

When I started carnivore I had a nice garden that I had been cultivating ever since I retired back in 2020. I started out just trying carni for 30 days to see what would happen. I saw enough improvement that I wanted to see what another 30 days would do. The improvements were so good after 60 days I just had to do 30 more days. After 90 days I knew that I would eat this way for the rest of my life. I saw no reason after that to keep up my garden. I’m not one to waste energy on something I’m not going to benefit from. 
Now I was and am a pretty strict carnivore but that’s just what I prefer. It’s simple and suits me well. 
My advice would be to at least go strict carnivore until you become fat adapted and heal. 
Then slowly add one vegetable back in at a time and see if it bothers you. If not then you can keep it but if it causes inflammation then it’s out. You may find that vegetables don’t affect you or you may find a particular one or two that aggravate you. 
Eating meat and whole food vegetables is not a bad way of eating if it doesn’t affect you and you really like veggies. I just wouldn’t eat any starchy ones.
It’s more important in my opinion to eliminate all sugars, grains, seed oils and highly processed foods. 
 

Just started my journey today with bacon and eggs for breakfast, with pot of herbal green tea. Normally it would be bacon egg and two slices of bread, coffee with sugar and maybe a chocolate biscuit...
I'm in my early 60's, have many health issues including inflammation, arthritis and carrying too much weight. Did lose weight a couple of years ago on keto, felt great, but then slipped back into carbs and all went down hill fast! That time however, I didn't have any help or "community" that I could draw on. I hope by joining a forum or two, and getting inspiration, I might stick to a carnivore diet long enough to make me feel so good that I dont want to feel like s--t again. 
Thanks.
 
 
 

Just started my journey today with bacon and eggs for breakfast, with pot of herbal green tea. Normally it would be bacon egg and two slices of bread, coffee with sugar and maybe a chocolate biscuit...
I'm in my early 60's, have many health issues including inflammation, arthritis and carrying too much weight. Did lose weight a couple of years ago on keto, felt great, but then slipped back into carbs and all went down hill fast! That time however, I didn't have any help or "community" that I could draw on. I hope by joining a forum or two, and getting inspiration, I might stick to a carnivore diet long enough to make me feel so good that I dont want to feel like s--t again. 
Thanks.