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It's okay to eat cheaper cuts of meat. You mentioned hamburger patties, and those are great provided they are 100% real beef. Don't rule out pork, chicken thighs, etc. In reality, if all you can afford is hot dogs, vienna sausages, canned seafood, and bologna, don't be shy about enjoying these options as well. Yes, many of these may contain fillers, but just look for the cleanest ingredients possible. You have to be your own N=1 experiment. As a general rule, ONLY eat when you are hungry, and when you do eat, eat until you are comfortably full (not painfully stuffed). I personally don't count calories, but yes, you CAN overeat on a carnivore diet and gain weight. I am about the same height and same weight as you are. If I eat 3 meals a day and snack in-between, my weight remains stable. This is because every time you eat you bump up your insulin levels, which retards fat loss. However, if I practice intermittent fasting by eating 2 times a day or once a day, then I lose weight. I will make these 2 meals or one meal count though. I don't eat any less, but I basically take the food from that would-have-been 3rd meal and add it to the other meal(s). The more time you give your body to rest in-between meals the more it is able to utilize the fuel you gave it as well as to tap into your body fat reserves. A little hunger won't kill you. For example, I eat at NOON and at 7/8pm. Am I hungry in the morning before my first meal? Yup. Might I also start to get hungry around 5 or 6pm? Yes. I just put up with it until it's meal time. And if I really can't stand it or start to feel nauseous, I'll just have a little butter to hold me over.

I have a bizarre biphasic sleep pattern. I will fall asleep between 10pm and midnight, and wake up around 3am. Like wide awake. I let the dog out, take my BP meds, and then doom scroll on my phone till about 4am and then go back to sleep and get another 3-4 hours in. Wake up just fine, feeling no need for any hot caffeinated beverages - although I still enjoy one cup of tea, I don't "need" it. Sometimes I come home from work and nap for a bit in my recliner before doing anything else.

Hello @Jeff Mac - I just saw this post. Sorry it took so long to respond. I've been busy offline. Whether you should start back is a personal decision. There are some trusted doctors I watch, such as Dr. Ford Brewer, who himself takes a low dose Rosuvastatin every other day moreso for it's anti-inflammatory benefits and not so much for cholesterol. Tell us a little about yourself. When someone experiences high cholesterol on a carnivore diet, it's usually down to these 2 common scenarios... 1) You were overweight/obese and have lost weight rapidly. LDL is stored in adipose tissues and gets released into the bloodstream as the fat is mobilized from your body to be used as energy. This LDL will come down on it's own after 3-6 months of being weight stable. As a general rule, don't put too much stock into a lipid panel while losing weight. 2) You are lean, or now have become very lean, and you are a LMHR, "Lean Mass Hyper Responder". These individuals often have high HDL, low triglycerides, and super-high LDL. Many of the online doctors like Dr. Berry and others don't think the statin is worth it. Although I have heard Dr. Berry say that he might prescribe one for a person who had a previous heart attack since the studies do show that it can benefit those individuals, but he things a proper human diet is going to be far more beneficial.

I don't remember which stage of chronic kidney disease you are in, but remember that when you increase your protein consumption, you will like see an increase in your creatinine and BUN. Both of these are waste products from the breakdown of proteins, and when they run high your doctor is going to be upset. Your creatinine is used to calculate an eGFR, and the higher the creatinine goes, the lower the eGFR will go. This will make the doctor think that your kidneys are getting worse. This is where eating carnivore or lion diet with CKD can be tricky. It will look like things are getting worse when reading those standard tests, but they might not be getting worse at all. The extra protein is skewing the results. One other metric that is good for comparison is getting a Cystatin C. Cystatin C is another waste product but this one is NOT skewed by diet or exercise. They can calculate an eGFR with Cystatin C as well. For example, my last eGFR with creatinine was 12, but my eGFR with Cystatin C was 24. And then you can monitor urine test results and more. You may want to test every 3 months to see how things change over time.

Yeah, that's why I keep those off limits. Too easy to become addicted to them again. Even if I do have some fruitage, I keep it to a bare minimum and only sporadically/occasionally. I don't want to flip the switch and lose my fat adaptation and have my body start preferring carbs by any mean.

This is good to know. I would have had no idea. I don't eat much canned herring. I do go through phases of sardine eating though. I've vowed not to eat grains or refined sugar, except on a rare special occasion. I word it like that so I can still have a fruit once in a blue moon. Fruit doesn't send me on a bender like grains or candy will.

We sound crazy to them for sure, lol. I was that person who was super into vegetables. I raised my kids trying to force vegetables on them. It was the way I was raised. Now each child is not super fond of meat. They both eat some meat, but the daughter prefers chicken and the son is still addicted to pasta. If only I could turn back time and tell them "You have to eat your meat" instead.

The mainstream medical advice is to avoid protein if you have impaired kidney function, and I don't think this is true. I've been carnivore since May of 2023 and for a while I was actually making minor improvements in my kidneys markers. I did have a set back when my primary doctor prescribed me fenfibrate for my triglycerides, but I am slowly recovering from that mistake. I have read studies that pretty much debunk the idea that protein is hard on the kidneys, and I am willing to test the idea that this is true even when I have impaired kidneys. To date, which is 2.5 years now, I am still convinced that my carnivore diet has done no harm to me or my kidneys whatsoever.

Yes, we have a community calendar.... https://carnivoretalk.com/events/ I add events to it as soon as I hear about them.

How neat! Camel-tallow. Is the hump of a camel mostly fat? Clearly you live on the other side of the globe. The only camels we have over here are in zoos as exotic animal exabits.

Yes, I've heard that too. So as a general rule of thumb (after your initial adaptation/transition phase), if your stools are loose, back off the fat a little. And if they are uncomfortably too hard, add back in a little fat. And then remember we all have times where we splurge, eat something that didn't agree with us, bad meat, or have a stomach virus, etc. We don't always want to jump to the conclusion that every episode of diarrhea must be diet related.

We all have our reasons for wanting to improve our health, whether its to lose weight, reverse disease, or another reason unique to you. Feel free to join us onscreen tonight as we share our reasons why we choose to live the carnivore-centric lifestyle, making this a permanent way of eating. HERE'S HOW TO JOIN US ONSCREEN AS A GUEST... https://carnivoretalk.com/events/ LET'S DO A VIDEO TOGETHER! Have YOU had success with a meat-based keto, ketovore, carnivore, carnivore-centric, or animal-based diet? Let's do a video together! Contact me using this form... https://carnivoretalk.com/contact/ JOIN THIS CHANNEL TO GET ACCESS TO PERKS! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join VISIT OUR FREE KETO/CARNIVORE COMMUNITY! https://www.CarnivoreTalk.com HAVE YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED IN A FUTURE VIDEO: Click the link below to leave us a Voicemail, and we might feature your question on the next episode of Carnivore Talk. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ SEND SNAIL MAIL TO: Robert Angle Carnivore Talk PO Box 1367 Stow, OH 44224 DISCLAIMER: The Carnivore Talk website, and its audio and video content are for general informational purposes only. The use of the information found within our content or from materials linked to from our content is at the user’s own risk. The content published by Carnivore Talk is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should seek the assistance of their health care professionals to obtain medical advice and to diagnose or treat any condition. We are NOT doctors! #carnivore #carnivorediet View full episode

Regardless of what variation of a carnivore centric diet you may be doing, it is good to remember that we are all on the same team. We all are striving to achieve one or more goals when it comes to our health, whether that's reversing disease, losing weight, or both. And if your carnivore centric diet is devoid is ruminant meat only, devoid of all plants, ketogenic, or animal-based with a more permissive view towards carbohydrates - that is okay. If it's working for you, then you do you! And we are here to support you. Join us live in the chat or onscreen with your own webcam and microphone as part of our "roundtable" discussion. HERE'S HOW TO JOIN US ONSCREEN AS A GUEST... https://carnivoretalk.com/events/ LET'S DO A VIDEO TOGETHER! Have YOU had success with a meat-based keto, ketovore, carnivore, carnivore-centric, or animal-based diet? Let's do a video together! Contact me using this form... https://carnivoretalk.com/contact/ JOIN THIS CHANNEL TO GET ACCESS TO PERKS! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join VISIT OUR FREE KETO/CARNIVORE COMMUNITY! https://www.CarnivoreTalk.com HAVE YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED IN A FUTURE VIDEO: Click the link below to leave us a Voicemail, and we might feature your question on the next episode of Carnivore Talk. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ SEND SNAIL MAIL TO: Robert Angle Carnivore Talk PO Box 1367 Stow, OH 44224 DISCLAIMER: The Carnivore Talk website, and its audio and video content are for general informational purposes only. The use of the information found within our content or from materials linked to from our content is at the user’s own risk. The content published by Carnivore Talk is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should seek the assistance of their health care professionals to obtain medical advice and to diagnose or treat any condition. We are NOT doctors! #carnivore #carnivorediet View full episode

Join our carnivore camaraderie every Monday night as we talk about our successes on the carnivore diet as well as answer any questions you may have. HERE'S HOW TO JOIN US ONSCREEN AS A GUEST... https://carnivoretalk.com/events/ LET'S DO A VIDEO TOGETHER! Have YOU had success with a meat-based keto, ketovore, carnivore, carnivore-centric, or animal-based diet? Let's do a video together! Contact me using this form... https://carnivoretalk.com/contact/ JOIN THIS CHANNEL TO GET ACCESS TO PERKS! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeAwaxsqfNEK4ZtfWX3Dz3g/join VISIT OUR FREE KETO/CARNIVORE COMMUNITY! https://www.CarnivoreTalk.com HAVE YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED IN A FUTURE VIDEO: Click the link below to leave us a Voicemail, and we might feature your question on the next episode of Carnivore Talk. https://carnivoretalk.com/voicemail/ SEND SNAIL MAIL TO: Robert Angle Carnivore Talk PO Box 1367 Stow, OH 44224 DISCLAIMER: The Carnivore Talk website, and its audio and video content are for general informational purposes only. The use of the information found within our content or from materials linked to from our content is at the user’s own risk. The content published by Carnivore Talk is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should seek the assistance of their health care professionals to obtain medical advice and to diagnose or treat any condition. We are NOT doctors! #carnivore #carnivorediet View full episode

I recorded most of the speakers and will be publishing them. In the meantime, here are some pictures....

So the next day, on my way to the Columbus Meat-Up, I had to stop 3 times for an emergency use of a bathroom, lol. I think it was the carolina reaper and ghost pepper cheese. I still have some left, so I will be able to test this theory here in a few days. It may be that I have lost my tolerance for tasty hot stuff.

Welcome aboard! Many people experience adaptation/transition/withdrawal symptoms with the first 2-8 weeks. One of these symptoms is unpredictable stools, often toggling back and forth between either diarrhea or a perceived feeling of constipation. Part of the reason for this is the change in your microbiome. The population of carb-loving microbes will drop off. The long term benefits of this will eventually be normal stools (your new normal might be every several days instead of several times a day) and no gas. You have to wait this process out. Be patient.

In the morning I will be going to the Columbus Ohio Healing Humanity Meatup.... https://healinghumanity.movie/event/columbus-ohio-healing-humanity-meatup-august-23rd-2025/ According to the website, Dr. Robert Kiltz, Kerry Mann, Jen Mann, Adam Lacy, Ashley Rogers, Dr. Nelson Vazquez, Ed Coleman, Russ Mitchell, and Robyn Herron will all be there. I bought the VIP pass so I can wine and dine with them afterwards, lol. I might try to vlog the experience.

I haven't heard of him before now. I took a glance at his YouTube page. Judging by the titles of his videos, it does appear he knows a thing or two. I'll have to give him a more in-depth listen. Yes, I use OwnYourLabs.com for almost everything. It's usually the cheapest and they work with Labcorp. So you pay for your labs and they will have a doctor send you a lab order via email which you can print and take to Labcorp. When you sign in, you simply indicate that the service is already paid for. You will need to register a Labcorp account. They will give you your results in your patient portal. UltaLabTests.com is similar. They work with Quest Diagnostics and the results will be seen in your UltaLabTests account. They charge more for most things, but I still use them for my Cystatin C because for some reason it's cheaper there but way too much at OwnYourLabs.