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Today I had cackleberries for breakfast (it's what my dad would call eggs, lol). Then Wagyu beef for lunch, and then more wagyu beef and some tilapia for dinner. It wasn't very photogenic so I didn't snap a pic, lol.

And now in addition to your research, you have your own personal N=1 experiment. Experience is showing you that you feel better with meat in your diet. It's not as black and white as carnivore vs herbivore. Mainstream science would categorize us as an omnivore (eater of everything), but we believe we should be considered "facultative carnivores" - those with a preference towards meat but can also eat non-animal food in addition to animal food. A dog is an example of facultative carnivore - they prefer prey, but will eat some plants as well. Humans are primates, and so we have features in common, such as our teeth. While most primates eat plants, there are some that will kill and eat meat as well. Since we don't have teeth and claws, humans used their brains to hunt in packs and forge weapons. Our lack of hair and ability to sweat to dissipate body heat allowed us to pursue prey until the prey were overheated and exhausted. From a scientific standpoint, all the essential nutrients your body needs can be found in a carnivore diet, AND in higher quantities, AND in more bioavailable forms than in plants. When you eat a carnivore diet, you eliminate anti-nutrients found in vegetables, oxylates, lectins, gluten, mold, processed food chemicals, and more. It's the purest form of eating which is why literally everyone will feel so much better. Not lies, per se. But it's your body that heals itself when given what it needs, and most of that is obtained in it's purest form in animal products. You can derive some nutrition from certain fruits and certain fruitages of vegetables, but they are in much lower doses, in a state that need converted to a form our body can use, and you are competing with anti-nutrients and plant toxins. Plants do have medicinal value. Many drugs today come from plants. I have reversed prediabetes, ulcerative colitis, hypertension. Those are my big three. I no longer get skin tags, my gums stopped bleeding, and I don't fall asleep at the wheel anymore (literally). I used to have bloating and gas that could even make a skunk run and hide, and now I never pass gas at all. @Geezy It's not ok. Junk is junk. Everyone should abstain from the processed foods as well as the unholy trinity of grains, refined sugar, and seed oils. Some members here just haven't brought themselves to commit to a proper human diet yet. I've seen them post about English muffins and rice too. But they registered so there must be some interest. I endorse a Carnivore-centric, Meat-based diet for everyone, which I personally define as being one of the following 4 tiers. Which tier is best for you depends on your current metabolic health... 4. Low Carb, Animal-Based, 100g of carbs or less per day, may include fruit. 3. Keto, 25 carbs or less per day, non-starchy veg, but nix the fruit, save for maybe some berries. 2. Ketovore, less than 10 carbs per day. Mostly carnivore, very minimal or very occasional veg. 1. Carnivore, just animal products and the trace carbs that might be in them.* * - some individuals will still drink coffee or use spices. The more weight you have to lose, or the most healing that needs to be done, then the closer to #1 you want to move. I usually recommend starting at the top with #4 and spending 2 weeks in each tier as you work your way to pure carnivore. This can help you avoid and withdrawals and adaptation issues from making extreme, rapid changes. The Keto Flu doesn't have to be a thing. Hope this helps! And welcome aboard!

I've never had a CAC. I want to get one but I haven't explored where or how to around here yet.

This is interesting. I figured with all the protein consumption our bodies hold onto their muscle mass, at least most of us. But I know you hit the gym and workout so maybe you had more than the usual muscle mass. I know you said your gym performance took a hit when you did carnivore.

I should try making tallow. This meat store near town sells backs of fat on the cheap.

I've had one root canal, because I broke the tooth on a tongue piercing I had when I was a young punk, and then the bacteria was able to quickly bore a hole towards the root and infect it. I've had maybe 3 cavities filled too. But I still have all of my teeth. I had bleeding gums and deep pockets and was referred to a periodontist for possible scaling. I never went. But since I have adopted this carnivore way of eating 10.5 months ago, my gums have stopped bleeding. I can't get them to bleed no matter how hard I brush. They use to bleed just barely touching them.

Exactly. It should be thought of as your new lifestyle, your new identity. That will help you to not backslide back to the standard Western/American lifestyle, put the wieght back on, and see the return of your diseases. If you occasionally eat something non-carnivore, you carry on and keep living a carnivore or carnivore-centric lifestyle. Back when I was trying to "low carb" it with keto torillas, keto breads, keto treats, etc, I would just get derailed and next thing I know I am saying "I'll start again tomorrow", "I'll start again Monday" and then never start again. Months would pass and the weight would be back. But now this is my new adopted lifestyle, and not a "diet" in today's typical sense of the word, there is no going back. It's not me anymore.

Is every cut of lamb called a chop? What I had in the picture I shared, I have no idea what part of the animal that was. But there were also "lamb chops" that were clearly ribs with meat attached. It was double the price though so I picked up these. Then there was a boneless leg of lamb that was pretty cheap, but I would have to cut it into steaks myself.

Welcome aboard Matt. I want to make homemade beef jerky myself. I've heard you can use a regular range oven, but I am wondering if it would be better or easier to use a countertop unit myself. Give me your opinion and we will let the English muffin slide

Welcome aboard Jorik! For starters, could it be that your previous carefree diet was the cause of your memory loss, brain fog, and other issues, and not necessarily the anti-depressants alone? Notice how you said that you felt great, and then as you added back carbs, and the started slipping down that slope of adding more and more carbs, your issues returned. Are you taking anti-depressants now? Did you quit cold turkey or did you wean yourself off them slowly. Flat out quitting certain medications can send you in a tizzy for a bit. It may be better to work with your doctor and gradually lower your dose. Cut it in half for a couple weeks, then cut that in half again for a couple more, then take that smaller dose every other day for a couple more, and eventually quit. Outside of that, the advice above to make sure you have adequate vitamin D levels and electrolyte levels is a good one. Salt your food to taste, and then supplement with magnesium and potassium. You will want to get blood labs every once in awhile to check your vitamin D levels and if you have kidney issues you will want to check your electrolyte levels as well if you choose to supplement. But I would stick to it. You know it works because you've experienced it yourself.

Congrats on the weight loss, Will! I've had this similar experience countless times back when I did keto/low carb and even now that I am mostly carnivore. I would plateau for several weeks, get frustrated, eat a pizza, and weigh less the next day. And yes, I would feel pretty lousy. Since i've started carnivore, I have vowed never to eat grains or sugar (basically, anything that's a grass) ever again. So to live up to my vow I cannot throw caution to the wind and eat a pizza or any processed junk. But... a large apple will do the same thing for me by breaking the plateau - which is a much healthier alternative. If I am going to cheat, I cheat with something natural.

My son is almost 18. But yes, I was sitting in the room - and if I recall his teeth were in pretty good shape. I can't remember the reason behind the prescription strength toothpaste. But apparently the proper method is to spit out as much toothpaste as possible without actually rinsing with water and we've all been doing it wrong, lol... https://www.healthline.com/health/dental-and-oral-health/should-you-rinse-after-brushing-teeth Of course, if you eat a proper diet and especially if you brush regularly, even with flouride free toothpaste, your mouth is going to be just fine.

Generally, just eat until you are comfortably stuffed, i.e. full, but not stuffed to the point of agony. And then only eat when you are hungry. Different people prefer to do it in different ways, such as 3 modest sized meals a day (breakfast, lunch, and dinner), or 2 larger meals a day (brunch and dinner), or just one giant meal per day. I've never heard of this before. And I am not sure exactly what you mean. When I read this, it implies that if I eat 1 pound of chicken, then I should also eat 2 pounds of butter. There is NO WAY I am going to do that, lol.

Have you had the same reaction to milk in the past? There is some lactose and carbs in heavy whipping cream. Not as much as milk. Those who are lactose intolerant and cannot drink milk can sometimes tolerate some HWC, but it should still be avoided if you are severely lactose intolerant. In the past, if I overindulged in ice cream, I would experience the same bloated gassy and track-n-field sprint to the bathroom too.

ESQUIMO TEETH PROVE HEALTH OF MEAT DIET Dr. Fernald of Dental School Has Casts Taken by MacMillan NO WRITER ATTRIBUTED January 29, 1929 By means of some 90 models of Eskimo teeth, Dr. Adelbert Fernald, Curator of the Harvard Dental School Museum, has proved that eating a strictly meat diet is the ideal way in which to keep the human mouth in a healthy condition, and that it is due to the fact that civilized people do not eat enough meat that they as a rule have decayed teeth. Commander Donald B. MacMillan, the noted Arctic explorer, obtained about 90 impressions of the teeth of the Eskimos of Smith Sound, "the meat eaters," who live the farthest north of any human beings. He did this at the request of Dr. Fernald, who desired the models for the Dental School Museum. The impressions were made on one of MacMillan's most recent Artic expeditions. From the impressions, models have been constructed. Commander MacMillan said that "the Smith Sound Eskimos average about four ounces of vegetable matter each year per capita." Only one tooth of the 616 contained in the models is deformed. All the models represent mouths and teeth wonderfully developed. A more definite proof of the efficacy of a meat diet in maintaining healthful teeth could not be desired. Out of the 616 teeth only seven are missing, while Dr. Fernald states that of the same number of teeth in the mouths of New England people, he would expect to find more than 100 missing. In connection with the securing of the Eskimo teeth models from Commander MacMillan, Dr. Fernald arranged with Professor Hooton of the Peabody Museum at Harvard to secure impressions of the teeth of Yucatan natives during a southern expedition. These people are famous as vegetable eaters. Most of them eat no meat whatever. It was found that their teeth were very much decayed. At a surprisingly early age, their teeth lost all semblance of even a normally healthy condition, and most of them, when middle aged, had practically no teeth, whatever. It has been the experience of most dentists that those people who have the healthiest teeth are those who eat the most meat, which points to the same conclusion as Dr. Fernald's researches. Many of the models of the Eskimo teeth are perfect in every way, not having the slightest defect either of form or condition. Dr. Fernald states that is the 32 years of his dental practice he has seen only one set of teeth which were perfect in every respect. Dr. Fernald says "Studying the models of these peoples' mouth in the interest of anthropology and ethnology, as well as from an orthodontic standpoint. I consider extremely valuable, as much more data, can be obtained from models of a living person than from skulls. For instance, if the models show that the gums are apparently firm and tight around the teeth and have not receded that alone indicates to some extent a healthy mouth. From the fact that the arches are so even and well developed I should say that these people with so large arches are not mouth breathers, and therefore are not suffering from adenoids, enlarged tousils, and so forth.

Agriculture is the bedrock of civilization but created a nightmare for our teeth Sean Kane Apr 5, 2016, 11:41 AM EDT DNA from a 37,000-year-old skeleton found at the Kostenki archaeological site in Russia supports recents findings and offers new ones about the history of human evolution. Peter the Great Museum The agricultural revolution changed everything, and it's tough to overstate this fact. No longer tethered to roaming animal herds, or reliant on foraged berries, learning to grow our own food some 10,000 years ago allowed (and forced) us to settle down. But that crucial Neolithic shift came with a cost that haunts humanity to this day: It devastated our teeth. Farming grains and other carbohydrate-rich foods freed up a lot of time for our ancestors. In turn, this helped spur the development of culture, art, trade, science, and all the other things that go into complex human civilization (like news sites you read on the internet). Yet this flood of carbs made our mouths — long-adapted to a more complex diet — a fertile breeding ground for one type of bacteria called Streptococcus mutans. Dr. Richard Facklam/CDC (PHIL) S. mutans is most commonly associated with cavities and tooth decay. It feeds off the carbs, including sugars, that get stuck in our teeth, metabolizing them into lactic acid. This acid then eats away at dental enamel and rots our teeth. The bacteria is basically built for the human mouth, and is passed down from mothers to children during infancy. However, our teeth hadn't really evolved to deal with it in large numbers, and researchers used genetics to discover that, around 10,000 years ago, S. mutans started to grow exponentially — right in time with the rise of agriculture. After that first Neolithic bump for S. mutans, bacterial diversity in the human mouth pretty much remained consistent through the Middle Ages. Our initial switch to farming wasn't the only time we gave a boost to S. mutans, though. During the Industrial Revolution 150 years ago, another major agricultural shift occurred: We introduced an enormous amount of processed flour and sugar into our diets. This lit the powder keg we'd built for S. mutans, helping it crowd out other bacteria species to become the dominant dental bacteria, form stubborn and gnarly plaques of biofilm, and more rapidly chew away at our teeth. ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.businessinsider.com/growing-crops-human-cavities-increase-2016-3

I just want to interject and say that my response above related to the illegal use of steroids. If it's legal in your area and you have the benefit of working with a doctor, whatever kind of drugs or therapies you want to try is a personal choice indeed. This reminds me of a comedian I saw, oh, probably back in the 90's. One of his humorous skits was about body building - and the comment/joke that stuck with me is that you can make every part of your body bigger, except one. And in turn, it makes that one look smaller, lol.

This evening was the first Tuesday of the month, so I was down at my cousins Open Mic Night. This place is kind enough to serve me 2 beef patties with bacon and pepper jack cheese. I did also have some Angels & Envy Kentucky Bourbon and a Rum & Diet Coke. This is generally the only day of the month I have a tasty adult beverage or two.

Looks accurate, with the grain fed appearing to have more fat/marbling than the grass fed.

I can't think of any. I know I've had some cooking disasters, but these were events not worth remembering, lol.

So there is a lot of crap and propaganda out there that yes, I think it's just conspiracy theories. As for an example, I am not going to name one just in case a member here believes it. Many people invest a lot of feelings into their "conspiracy theories" and that will quickly turn into a debate and undermine the community. I would rather not have that. I will say that what I have learned about the food and healthcare industries probably makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist to the average person who lives life day to day eating whatever they want and obediently filling their prescriptions. But my faith in Big Food and Big Pharma is forever shaken.

Welcome aboard @Adam. It sounds like you are having fantastic results. You can live just fine on beef, water, and salt - it has just about everything you need. Sounds like your body is currently prioritizing healing over weight loss, and that is okay

So for the first 2 months, I oscillated between hard as rocks constipation or faucet-on pouring liquid stools. I also would only go once a week, maybe twice. I went 10 days once without going at all. Eventually, things returned to my new normal, which is normal stools about twice a week. Cheese will stiffen things up, so if you are liberally enjoying cheese, maybe back down a bit and choose a different fat, like butter, the fat on steak, tallow, etc. Magnesium citrate is also known to help. My hemorrhoids have improved tremendously with carnivore, probably because I am not constantly sitting on that toilet several times a day anymore (I used to have ulcerative colitis)

Thanks for sharing Les.

What do you mean by "grease reflux"? If you feel like the hamburger grease coated your mouth, just rinse it out. @Miranda's recommendation for hot water or @Geezy's about hot bone broth is a good suggestion because hot temperatures helps liquefy fat and wash it away. I still drink carbonated beverages, whether water or sugar free sodas, and this usually neutralizes and leftover tastes for me. But when I hear "reflux" I think of vomit, wet burps, or just burps that taste like your last meal. If this is the case, maybe you need to NOT drink carbonated beverages until several hours after eating. @Orweller's comment on maybe it's keto-breath is also a good point to ponder. Did this gradually become a problem after several days? Is it a metalic taste of sorts. A lot of people experience this when they first start burning fat/ketones for energy after all the glucose stores have been depleted. The funky taste/breath sticks around for a few weeks at best and then goes away. If it's keto-breath, the only thing you can do is brush regularly and pop a sugar free mint in emergency situations, lol