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That's a start. If she can at least eat all natural whole foods, she will be starting off on the right foot. As time goes on and she adjusts, she can learn about what other things she may, or may not, want to cut out. Regarding fat and salt, we know that we thrive on fat and have no problems salting to taste. It might be worth pointing out that by cutting out processed food, she is actually reducing her sodium intake. There is so much sodium in processed junk. When you eliminate the junk, you can salt to taste and probably still not be ingesting as much sodium as you used to when you ate the standard American diet. And with fat, much of the fat we got in processed foods were harmful fats in the form of seed oils. We simply swap unhealthy seed oils for healthy animals fats like butter, tallow, and ghee (and coconut oil, olive oil, and avocado oil are acceptable as well).
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Interesting. Then there is no need to fluoridate water then, as this implies it's basically ineffective and accomplishes nothing. My son recently had a dentist appointment and was prescribed an "extra strength" toothpaste that is pharmacy only, not over the counter. The instructions were to brush and not rinse, but to go to bed with the toothpaste still sitting on the teeth. I questioned this and the dentist said that is how you are supposed to use flouride toothpaste or fluoridated mouth rinse. I never heard of such a thing, and definitely makes me question how you can not help but to ingest some in your sleep this way. Weird!
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I bought some lamb chops and cooked them up this evening for the first time. They were pretty tasty. I will be getting these again. I took a before pic but forgot to take an after pic. I was a wee bit hungry, lol.- 1,369 replies
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Same here, due to the ulcerative colitis that I previously had (but has resolved with carnivore and quitting coffee). It's the grain. In the Carnivore <- Keto -> Animal-based spectrum, we all want to avoid grasses of any kind. No grains, no refined sugar, and no seed oils. If you are going to eat plants, stick with keto friendly options if you are trying to lose weight or manage blood sugar levels, and then fruits are a safe option if you are currently metabolically healthy. We're strong proponents/advocates of the carnivore diet, meat-based keto, and animal-based diets here. Most of us are strict carnivore or mostly carnivore and have had fantastic results. Since you have weight to lose, we recommend you eat as low carb as possible, more towards the carnivore/ketovore end of the spectrum. Definitely stay away from the oats. You will have to test if you are lactose intolerant (milk sugar/carbs) or if you are sensitive to the milk proteins. If you can have butter or hard cheeses and do just fine, it's probably the lactose that is upsetting you. Welcome aboard!
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Right. Back when I used to think spinach was super healthy, I would eat it in preference to lettuce. I don't think I will intentionally touch spinach ever again now knowing what I know. I am not opposed to the occasional avocado if I am in a situation where I have to dip my toes back into keto for an odd meal dining out.
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I haven't cared much about toothpaste. When I was diagnosed with periodontitis before I started carnivore, I was using "Gum Detoxify" because it has stannous flouride, and I wanted to kill that bacteria that got into my gum pockets. I also started using a water flosser. Since then, my gums no longer bleed, which I do attribute more to my diet than my toothpaste and irrigation choices, but the combination of all three probably helped. I sometimes think about getting Dr. Squatch products, but soap is another thing I haven't really paid much mind to.
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There's no reason not to eat the whole egg, including the whites, unless you thought you were having some sensitivity to the eggs. Some people that have issues with eggs find that the problem is with gain fed caged chickens. If they choose pasture rasied (chickens that roam free and can eat bugs) or just eat the yolks, they do just fine.- 1,369 replies
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That would be me, lol. My wife wants her sugar, and admits she's addicted, and has even said she would rather keep taking her medications as long as she can eat whatever she wants. My daughter is morbidly obeses and the health complications are starting to roll in. I took off 50+ pounds right in front of their eyes last year to prove that it could be done. I've reversed a host of medical issues. But they still think I am the crazy one, lol. I don't flinch or feel any pressure. I am in this for the long haul. Hopefully when they see the contrast between someone who eats a proper human diet and one who doesn't, it's not too late for their health and wellness. I had to reach a certain low before I realized I needed to do something about it myself.
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This is a great and obvious idea. I have a coarse salt grinder. I will take the top off and grab a large crystal and do just that. They even sell these crystals that are huge, almost like the ring pops we had a children.
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Yes, we said that too. If you are obese and suffering from chronic and auto-immune conditions that you were told were "incurable" and that you have to take medications for life to manage it, then keto and carnivore becomes a miracle. You lose weight and reverse those diseases by eating an all natural human diet, even without counting calories. But if you are already metabolically healthy, which you are, why are you expecting a miracle? When you get down to such low body fat percentages, you are going to have to work it off. Case in point, I was 232 lbs - ate nothing but meat and eggs and cheese and dropped to 175-ish. I hit that target in November, and I have not lost a pound since. I, too, would like to take off another 15 more yet. I really haven't changes anything about my diet, aside from adding back breakfast and I occasionally snack. Starting in April, I will return to intermittent fasting, eating at noon and at 7pm, and I will start hiking the trails again because it's warming up outside. I may even have to hit the gym. The first 50+ lbs melted away over 6 months, but I am going to have to work for the rest. When I intermittently fast, that puts me in a calorie deficit. So yes, I would suggest counting your calories. Even though you are eating to satisfaction, "satisfaction" for you may be more food than you realize. Have you tried tracking your calories and macros in a notebook or an app like Carb Manager?
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Hello Steve, I would think yes, you can. If you are not cracking them open and eating the kernal, you will just be basically sucking the salt off the shell and then discarding it.
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Perhaps. We've given you tons of advice. We're not sure if you have applied any of it though. You could incorporate intermittent fasting. You can count calories if you like - these can still be used as a guage for how much or how little you are eating. You can also adjust your macros. For example, if you are eating mostly lean protein and not a lot of fat, then you are likely not spending much time in ketosis as your body converts the protein to glucose. A ketogenic diet is high fat, moderate protein, because you want your body to adapt to using ketones for energy instead of glucose. On a keto diet, you can have fatty meat, any form of zero carb dairy, and low carb cruciferous vegetables, such as lettuce, broccoli, asparugus, brussel sprouts, etc, provided you stay under about 20g of carbs per day. Just like on a properly formulated ketogenic carnivore diet, you would expect weight loss, not weight gain. Of course, if you overeat or don't consume enough fat to become fat adapted, there is a chance you will stall or gain weight. Good luck to you too.
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Fat Loss on a strict Carnivore Diet
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You can do it! @Geezy has good advice about constantly watching and listening to carnivore content, whether on YouTube or on podcasts. It keeps you in the mindset of sticking to it. For me, I am a religious person who takes my vows seriously. So I vowed never to eat grains or sugar ever again, save for a special occasion like a wedding anniversary. Now I have to keep that promise to myself- 1,369 replies
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Beautiful! Uh-oh! Awesome! You can do it. Try to minimize or completely eliminate that french fry intake for faster results- 1,369 replies
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Yesterday was 3 eggs and sausage in the morning. We bought this 2 pound pork sausage roll at Sam's. I crumbled half of it and stored it for later and made patties with the rest. For dinner I did the triple Baconator, plain, no bun from Wendy's because I was pressed for time.- 1,369 replies
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15 Other Meat Options - How Many Have You Tasted?
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I've had beef, chicken, pork, veal, duck, rabbit, lamb, venison, turkey, alligator, pheasant, and bison for sure. I am not sure if I have had goat. I have not had kangaroo, wild boar, or emu. -
15 Meats You Should Be Adding To Your Burger Mix By Emily Kammerlohr|April 4, 2023 6:23 pm EST Karen Brough/Shutterstock The United States has a long-standing love of hamburgers. Burgers are an iconic symbol of the country's food culture. We eat them at quintessentially American moments, like backyard barbecues or July Fourth celebrations. But burgers are still a favorite family dinner option — even when there isn't a holiday to celebrate — as they are quick and easy to make. You can even eat them on the go. Burgers also tend to be cheap, whether you order them from a restaurant, or make them yourself. No matter how classic the hamburger is, you might find yourself getting a little bit bored with it. Whether you are looking to reduce your beef consumption due to taste or environmental concerns, there are plenty of delicious options to try. You might be able to find a few of these at your local grocery store. But more unique burger meats — like alligator, kangaroo, or bison — might require some more searching. Get ready to dig in for the bite of your life. Here are 15 meats you should be adding to your burger mix. Chicken Digital Vision./Getty Images Chicken is one type of meat you should consider adding to your burger mix. This meat is already so popular as a beef substitute that there are many chains dedicated to serving only chicken — we're looking at you, Chick-fil-A. Whether you're a fan of spicy, grilled, or fried chicken, these restaurants likely have what you want. These same chicken dishes can also be made at home. When using chicken meat to make burgers, there are a few cuts to look for. You can buy ground chicken at most grocery stores. You can also make a chicken burger from any boneless chicken cutlet. This meat could be a good option for those interested in eating for good health. According to WebMD, chicken is a good source of protein and other nutrients. It is particularly high in zinc, iron, and copper. Eating foods that contain these vitamins and minerals is associated with certain health benefits. Pork Chirath Photo/Shutterstock If you're feeling bored of beef burgers for dinner, reach for some pork. You can use ground pork meat to form burger patties. You could also buy some thinner pork chops, cook them, then place one between your burger buns. The taste of pork can vary, depending on the cut of meat and its preparation method. Pork usually has a slightly sweet, yet mostly savory flavor. When cooked, pork can develop a crispy crust on the outside, while remaining tender and juicy on the inside. This is excellent when used for burgers. It's even better when paired with your favorite toppings. Consider adding spices like garlic, paprika, or cumin to your pork burger. These seasonings provide smokiness and heat. Then, toppings like bacon, cheese, or caramelized onions can really step up your meal. These ingredients add depth of flavor. They also help to mimic the taste of a more familiar beef burger. Veal Creative Stock Studio/Shutterstock Veal is technically a type of beef. But this meat has such a distinct flavor that it's worth considering as a beef alternative for your burgers. Veal meat comes exclusively from young cattle. These cows could be between 16 weeks and eight months old when they are killed to make veal. By comparison, cattle raised for beef are typically slaughtered when they are between two and three years of age. The texture, color, and flavor of veal are distinct from typical beef. Veal meat is usually pale pink. It can also contain less fat than beef. Veal is known for being especially tender. Fans of the meat will tell you this softer texture makes for a superior eating experience. There are several different veal cuts you could use in your burger. But we recommend using ground veal meat to form your patties. If you have a meat grinder at home, you can mince your own meat. We consider this type of meat a great protein alternative for burgers. However, because of the age of the calves when they go to slaughter, not everyone likes to eat veal. Consider consulting your guests before serving them a veal burger. Kangaroo Martin Pelanek/Shutterstock While kangaroo might not seem like an obvious choice for burger night, it's a great red meat alternative. According to K-ROO, kangaroo meat is packed with protein. It also contains beneficial nutrients like iron and zinc. Kangaroo meat may be a more sustainable choice than beef. These animals are native to Australia, where they are not raised in inhumane factory farms. The Australian government has even encouraged its citizens to increase their kangaroo meat intake in the past when there have been spikes in population numbers. When this happens, the excess number of kangaroos can threaten local ecosystems. This meat has a slightly gamey, tangy taste. It is significantly less fatty than beef or pork. This makes kangaroo meat ideal for those keeping an eye on their cholesterol levels. In Australia, kangaroo meat is easy to find at the supermarket. In other countries, you'll need to find a specialty butcher or buy the meat online. Duck Andi111/Shutterstock While you might typically associate duck with fine dining, this type of meat can also be used for burgers. Duck meat has a rich and unique flavor that is different from other types of poultry. Its versatility is shown through its appearance in many different cuisines, from French food to Chinese food. This meat is tender, juicy, and slightly gamey. Its savory qualities allow it to pair well with pretty much every sauce you have in your pantry. You can serve it with fries, coleslaw, noodles, or rice. According to VerywellFit, duck meat is a good source of protein, iron, and vitamin B12. It is also higher in fat than other poultry, which can give it a richer flavor and texture (via Maple Leaf Farms). When making burgers from duck meat, consider using duck cutlets for a more solid bite. You could also use ground duck meat if you prefer the traditional burger patty texture. Rabbit Urospoteko/Getty Images Eating rabbits may seem controversial since many people keep the animal as a pet. However, there are some reasons to consider using rabbit meat for your burgers. This protein is packed with nutrients. Rabbit meat is lean yet tender. It even has a delicate, slightly sweet flavor. It's approachable enough to consider trying, as many compare the meat to chicken. Rabbit meat is lower in fat and calories than many other types of meat, according to Wholey. If you are watching your red meat intake, try purchasing some rabbit meat to use during your next burger night. While some grocery stores carry rabbit meat, you may have more luck finding it at your local butcher. If a butcher near you doesn't sell rabbit meat, you could always order it online. The saddle is often considered one of the most tender cuts of rabbit meat. You'll probably want to mince this up to make rabbit burger patties. Lamb Fiona Goodall/Getty Images Lamb critics might say the meat is too gamey for burgers. But lamb meat fans will tell you otherwise. It's slightly sweet, yet fatty, making for an excellent flavor. This meat is not even as underrated as it may seem. Even though lamb isn't that popular in American cuisine, lamb is a staple ingredient in many cultures around the world. This includes Mediterranean cuisine, Middle Eastern cuisine, and Indian cuisine. You can dress up your lamb burger with mint jelly, tzatziki, ketchup, or mustard. If you are trying to eat more sustainably, lamb meat could be a good option. Lambs are young sheep. Sheep produce significantly less greenhouse gas emissions than cows, according to a scientific study. This is because a sheep's digestive systems work differently from a cow's, resulting in less methane production. This environmental factor might help to encourage you to consider using lamb for your next burger night. Venison Touched by light images/Shutterstock Venison — which usually refers to deer meat — is a great burger option. This beef alternative is especially useful if you are keen on catching your own meat. It has a unique flavor that venison fans can't get enough of. This type of meat tastes rich, gamey, and earthy. Overall, it's very bold and savory. If you've tried venison in the past and disliked it, the meat might have been prepared incorrectly. If venison is cooked wrong — or if the animal was butchered badly — the meat can be too bitter or chewy. It's worth it to give venison another try, just in case. If you are still hesitant, some people like mixing minced venison with other meats, like beef and pork. This combination is a good way to get used to eating venison. We also like the fact that eating venison comes with nutritional benefits. According to the University of Illinois, venison is an excellent source of iron, zinc, and vitamin K. This nutritional option is attractive to those looking to maintain a balanced diet. Turkey Art Wolfe/Getty Images Turkey isn't just for Thanksgiving. This lean white meat is a popular burger alternative. You can find it on the menu of several restaurants. But you can also make turkey burgers yourself. If you are trying to up your protein intake, turkey is a great option. This meat is a good source of essential nutrients. According to Medical News Today, turkey contains vitamin B6 and niacin. It is also a good source of selenium, which is important for healthy thyroid function and immune system support, reports Healthline. Turkey has a milder flavor than beef. It tastes somewhat sweet and tangy. We recommend pairing your turkey meat burger with foods like avocado, cranberry sauce, or even caramelized onions. Any of these go great with the flavor or turkey. You can usually buy ground turkey meat or pre-made turkey burgers at the grocery store. Either could be used for your next burger night. Wild boar WildMedia/Shutterstock If you enjoy hunting, you might be thinking of more ways to incorporate the meat you collect into your daily diet. If you find yourself at the meat processing plant with a wild boar, know that the meat you have will make an excellent addition to burger night. Although both are technically types of pigs, the meat of wild boar tastes very different from pork raised on a farm. Wild boar meat is leaner and darker than domestic pork. It has a distinctly rich, nutty, gamey, and slightly sweet flavor. That said, the taste of wild boar meat can vary depending on the animal's diet, age, and the way it was killed and processed. If you are familiar with eating other types of wild-caught game, you might find the taste is similar to venison or elk. Wild boar is often used in sausages, stews, and other hearty dishes. But it can also easily be shaped into burger patties that you can eat at home. Alligator Meunierd/Shutterstock If you find yourself in Louisiana, you'll notice that alligator starts popping up on the menus of many local restaurants. These businesses will tell you the meat tastes like chicken. For the most part, they are correct. Alligator meat is white meat that is mild in flavor. It tastes like chicken to some folks, but a little bit fishy to others. Alligator meat is usually prepared as a part of Southern dishes like gumbo, jambalaya, and even fried alligator nuggets. Because it is a delicate meat, you'll find that most alligator burgers are fried. This way, the meat doesn't fall apart as you eat it. If you are cooking alligator burgers at home, consider deep frying the meat for the same satisfying crunch. You can dress up an alligator burger similar to the way you would a chicken burger. But given its Southern roots, we recommend using some cajun seasoning, as well. Pheasant Alamin-Khan/Shutterstock Pheasant is a pleasant meat to use for burgers. The bird tastes pretty similar to chicken or turkey, making it an easy option to reach for when you want to try something new. If you are worried about the meat tasting too gamey, it's helpful to know that younger pheasants are typically more tender and have a milder flavor. On the other hand, older birds may have a slightly stronger taste. It's the same idea behind veal being more tender than beef; the older the animal, the tougher the meat. This lean white meat is typically served in stews, soups, or as a main course. It was historically considered to be exotic meat — available only to the wealthy and elite — but this is no longer the case. Hunters and food enthusiasts alike are adding roast pheasant to their burgers. This is a great way to explore an interesting new dish. Bison Tim Malek/Shutterstock Bison — a species related to the buffalo — is a type of animal sometimes killed for its meat. Bison meat has a slightly sweeter, richer, and more gamey flavor than beef. It's also somewhat leaner. Even those who typically don't like eating wild-caught game tend to enjoy bison. This is because it doesn't have a strong aftertaste, unlike deer or elk. Native American tribes have been eating bison for thousands of years, well before cattle arrived in North America. Because the animals are native to the land, bison meat is also a more environmentally friendly and humane option than cows raised in feedlots. However, you should make sure to purchase bison that is grass-fed or pasture-raised to ensure that your meat is sustainable and humane. Bison meat is high in protein, iron, and other important nutrients (via WebMD). Many restaurants have a bison burger on their menu. But you can also enjoy a bison burger at home, as well. Goat Holly S Cannon/Shutterstock If you enjoy eating lamb, you will probably enjoy eating goat. Goat meat is an exciting variation to add to your burger rotation. It's known for being chewy and tough. But this doesn't mean it can't make a great burger. Goat meat can be quite tender if cooked properly. Many people find that goat meat has a rich, earthy flavor. This is part of why it pairs well with strong spices and bold flavors. Goat meat is a staple in many Middle Eastern, South Asian, and Caribbean cuisines. If you want to add international flavor to your burger night, consider putting goat on the menu. Plus, goat meat is often considered a more sustainable choice than beef. This is because goats can be raised on land that is unsuitable for other types of livestock. They also require less water than cows. However, goats still produce a good amount of methane gas, meaning they aren't the greenest choice of meat for your next burger night. Emu Dalamaus/Getty Images As an animal from Australia, the emu isn't eaten widely in other parts of the world. But this type of meat is beloved down under. Even though the animal is a national symbol of the country — along with the kangaroo — it is still allowed to be eaten. Emu meat is dark red. It has a mild, slightly sweet flavor that kind of tastes like lean beef. It's also tender and juicy, which makes for a great burger with lots of flavors. Since having a diverse diet is a common piece of health advice, unique emu meat is a great option to reach for when you want to try something new. It's also considered somewhat sustainable, compared to other types of meat. Emus have soft feet, which prevents more damage to the existing soil where they are raised. In addition to being used for burger meat, you may find emu served as part of a stew or roast. ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.thedailymeal.com/1248782/meats-you-should-be-adding-to-your-burger-mix/
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All of this is completely normal. Healthy blood glucose when fasting is between 70 and 99, and as long as it's above 50 it is considered acceptable. Likewise, a spike up to 140 in after eating is also normal. I can only guess here, and I would assume they are very high fat and moderate to lower protein on their macros. And so your body was converting some of that protein into glucose, which is then detected in your blood. So you're still in the normal range. You burn off or store the carbs by the time morning has rolled around and that's why you still measure the same. The reason many on keto or carnivore will aim for moderate protein and really high fat macros is to become fat adapted. Until you are fat adapted, your body will convert some protein you consume into glucose. You say you were eating a large amount of protein and working out and being very active. Much of this excess protein was likely being converted to glucose. Welcome aboard "J". Sorry it took so long to approve these posts. I was installing a tile backsplash for my brother today and was away from the internet.
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Started my day with an Omelette stuffed with roast beef and pepper jack cheese with salt and seasonings. Sam's Club was selling cans of pre-cooked roast beef, a canned meat I have NEVER seen before, so I thought I would give it a try. Pretty bland out of the can which is why I had to bust out the seasonings. It was also too lean, so I had to fatten it up with butter and cheese. But in the end I produced something that tasted very good.- 1,369 replies
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Oh I absolutely agree, and that is what I was trying to get at. If this proposal could be executed as outlined, it would be a valuble reference. I agree with this too. I am a religious person, so sometimes that language crosses over into other things I say and talk about. Maybe I could have not included the word "secular" and just said "resources", but by "secular resources" I meant resources outside my own (anecdotal) experiences.
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That is excellent. I have yet to drop my blood pressure meds, but I plan to experient with dropping one of them this spring/summer. I'm going to tell my doctor at my next appointment.
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I agree. My results speak volumes. But I am a research hound and I love to have secular resources to back up what I am doing. These are powerful when arguing with the doctor, lol
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