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Welcome @Dury No, not if you reign in the urge to give into those cravings and stop eating off plan now. Isn't it amazing how strong those cravings can be. My wife baked pumpkin bread and asked me to try it. I had one bite. In fact it wasn't even a bite, it was like a nibble, a half a bite. Suddenly I craved the whole loaf and desired all kinds of foods that I had trained myself to be immune to. I couldn't believe it. I resisted and it passed by in an hour or so. And that's the probably reintroducing carbohydrates into your system. You wake up those cravings and they may stick around for a day or two but if you go right back to being a faithful carnivore you can get the mastery over them, they will subside, and you probably wouldn't have done much damage. If you fall, you get back up again right that minue. Not tomorrow, not Monday, not next week.

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View File Red meat intake and risk of type 2 diabetes - Harvard This bogus study is discussed here: https://carnivoretalk.com/topic/74-the-red-meat-diabetes-harvard-study/ There are so many holes and errors with this study. Submitter Bob Submitted 10/28/2023 Category Research Studies  

Red meat may not cause harmful inflammation after all OCTOBER 27, 2023 by John Anderer HOUSTON — A little inflammation is usually a positive sign the immune system is at work, but chronic inflammation can take a heavy toll on the body’s cells, tissues, and organs. Doctors have long advised patients to avoid eating too much red meat as a means of avoiding chronic inflammation, but have burgers and steaks gotten a bad rap? Researchers from Baylor College of Medicine say red meat may not be so bad after all. “The role of diet, including red meat, on inflammation and disease risk has not been adequately studied, which can lead to public health recommendations that are not based on strong evidence,” says Dr. Alexis Wood, associate professor of pediatrics – nutrition at the USDA/ARS Children’s Nutrition Research Center at Baylor College of Medicine and Texas Children’s Hospital, in a university release. “Our team sought to take a closer look by using metabolite data in the blood, which can provide a more direct link between diet and health.” To study this topic, the research team analyzed cross-sectional data encompassing roughly 4,000 older adults participating in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis (MESA). For reference, cross-sectional data is quite useful as a source of evidence on how diet affects health, as it makes use of data observed with free-living people, without any attempts to influence their usual lifestyle. In this way, study authors believe it may be easier to take results from such earlier studies and apply them to non-research settings. Meanwhile, besides just assessing participants’ self-reported food intake and several biomarkers, the research team also gauged a large array of dietary intake metabolites in their blood. Plasma metabolites are useful in terms of assessing the effects of dietary intake as food is processed, digested, and ultimately absorbed into the body. After adjusting for body mass index (BMI), researchers concluded the ingestion of unprocessed and processed red meat (beef, pork, or lamb) was not directly associated with any markers of inflammation. Researchers theorize this suggests body weight, not red meat, may be the real driving force behind increased systemic inflammation. Importantly, no link was seen connecting red meat intake and C-reactive protein (CRP), considered the major inflammatory risk marker of chronic disease. “Our analysis adds to the growing body of evidence that indicates the importance of measuring plasma markers, such as metabolites, to track diet and disease risk associations, versus relying on self-reported dietary intake alone,” Dr. Wood explains. “Our analysis does not support previous observational research associations linking red meat intake and inflammation.” Since observational studies, by their very nature, cannot establish cause and effect, researchers recommend that randomized controlled trials (RCTs) be conducted in the future to confirm these findings. Such trials should entail participants being randomly assigned to either consume a dietary factor of interest or not eat it. Several earlier RCTs have already demonstrated that lean unprocessed beef can be enjoyed as part of certain heart-healthy dietary patterns. “We have reached a stage where more studies are needed before we can make recommendations to limit red meat consumption for reducing inflammation if we want to base dietary recommendations on the most up-to-date evidence,” Dr. Wood concludes. “Red meat is popular, accessible and palatable – and its place in our diet has deep cultural roots. Given this, recommendations about reducing consumption should be supported by strong scientific evidence, which doesn’t yet exist.” [hr] Article Source: https://studyfinds.org/red-meat-inflammation/

You can still do carnivore when in a pinch, lol. The beef patties are 100% USDA meats, and bacon is bacon. American cheese has "less than 2% of" unpronounceable ingredients, but it works overall. It's actually cheaper to get these as sides than it is to ask for a burger with no bun. I much prefer to cook at home and am in no way endorsing the Wendy's Diet, lol

Since I've been carnivore I have been a bit of a boring chef, which is too bad because I can cook and am otherwise creative. But with meat, it's basically heat and eat. I do like to combine things together. Like beef, bacon, sausage, egg, and butter. Mix it all up. I still do seasonings from time to time, which some overzealous carnivores will be critical of. That's why I say I am "97% Carnivore". You should check out the "What's fer supper!" topic for some ideas.

Geoff is correct. Ruminant animal meat is as pure as it gets, as their multi-chamber stomachs break down all the toxins in the plants they may eat. Grass fed/finished has a little more in the way of vitamins and minerals, but the vitamin and mineral content in grain fed is just fine.

Since you are working out, you probably should supplement with some electrolytes. LMNT is very tasty. One or two of those a day will probably do you well. Redmond's (makers of Real Salt) make an electrolyte drink mix called ReLyte. Keto Chow has electrolytes and a product called Daily Minerals (which tastes god awful and you need to dilute it with something). I have to salt to taste and supplement with magnesium or I get terrible leg cramps. Liver is a superfood. It's nature's multivitamin. I would just incorporate it whenever you want. Some people eat it once or twice a month. Others make sure to eat 2 ounces a week. Some people dice it up raw and freeze it and then pop it like a pill with some water because they don't want to taste it. You just don't want to eat gobs and gobs of liver in one sitting as too much can give you vitamin poisoning. Salmon is a nice fatty fish and is especially good for omega-3's. You don't have to go overboard though. Once a week would be fine. Fatty red ruminant meat is still the overall best thing for us.

Ding ding! We have a winner Awe. Ginger is a adorable. I'm a major dog person

So I ended my weekly weekend 24 hour fast with.... Wendy's, lol. The wife and I hiked a trail, and then were going to meet up with some friends at the dog park. I was going to keep fasting but she was really hungry and asked me about stopping to pick something up. I didn't want to deal with the smell of food in the car and not eat, so I got 4 large beef patties, 4 slices of cheese, and 4 sides of bacon. This will be my only meal for today.

Raw? Just a matter of a few days. Here in the USA the package will have a "Sell by" or date. You can get away with a day or two after that but if you aren't going to use it then you better bag it up and freeze it. Cooked beef on the other hand might last the whole work week if kept in a container with a nice tight lid.

No real environmental concerns. There's some propaganda that eating beef is bad for climate change, but just the sound of that should raise an eyebrow. It doesn't even begin to make sense. This stuff is usually vegan propaganda. The question of ethics is also rooted in vegan propaganda, but I can actually appreciate this a little more. I do respect life and believe that animals should be well-treated and respected. I took a man and his wife out to lunch one time. They were visiting from out of town. I took note that the wife had ordered a vegan/vegetarian dish and so I asked if she was vegetarian of if she just like that dish. She said she was a vegetarian. I asked her how long and why she was doing it for health reasons. She replied "I just don't feel like something has to die in order for me to eat". And that was a fine answer. I can respect that. I could have elaborated on the benefits of carnivore or talked about how plants are living things too and they die so we can eat, but that wouldn't have been respectful, and in fact might have even been rude. She's happy with her choices and so I am happy for her. Whenever someone asks about the ethics of eating this way, I always think of what she said. But I believe an animals should have a happy and fulfilling life, and when their times up, it should be over and done with quickly.

True that. That's why it's sometimes referred to as "The Natural Human Diet" or "The Perfect Human Diet" or "The Proper Human Diet" because it is ancestrally appropriate. Humans have been eating this way for thousands of years, hunting for food, eating low carbohydrate vegetables, and some seasonal fruit a month or so out of the year.

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Keto Carnivore diets are weight optimization diets. For some who have a lot of weight to lose, the weight comes off rapidly. For others the pace is more moderate. Usually when weight loss stalls, there is body re-composition taking place. For example, while weight loss is stalled, you might continue to shrink in your abdomen, requiring better fitting clothes or a new belt with better notch placement. Since you will be eating lots of nutrient dense meat, you will be able to build muscle much easier than you used to. Muscle weighs more than fat so your weight loss could be stalling or slightly rising due to increasing muscle mass but at the same time you are looking leaner and more fit. None. Metabolism adjusts according to the amount you eat. For example, if you calorie restrict or portion control, your body will adapt and lower your metabolic rate to compensate. This is another reason why some people stall. Your body will think that food must be scarce, such as in times of famine, and will adjust accordingly. But if you gradually increase your food intake then your metabolism will also increase. This is why you can have some people not losing weight at 1200 calories a day while others lose weight at 4000 calories a day, which is why keto carnivore diet advice will say don't worry about calories, just eat nutritious low carb food until you are comfortably full.

Okay, that makes a difference. I'm only 5'8" so you're going to wear the weight much better than I do

Diet Well with a keto or carnivore diet, there really isn't any 'not eating when you are not supposed to. As a general rule of thumb, you want to eat 2 or 3 meals a day without snacking in-between. But if you're truly hungry, then eat. If you are eating nutrient dense foods like you should, then you will notice that you are just not as hungry as often as you used to be when you ate the standard American/Western junk diet. Your urges and cravings to have something in your mouth will become far less frequent. Eating nutrient dense foods almost naturally leads to fasting. Fasting Now if you are intentionally fasting this can be a different story. For example, I do one extended fast per week from Friday dinner to Saturday dinner (minimum). I do get hungry throughout the day on Saturday, but drinking tea, water, etc can help with this. I usually find things to distract myself too. But hunger pangs are temporary, and if you don't respond to them, they actually go away. That's why once people get past the 18-24 mark they find that they can easily keep going for 2-5 days straight without eating.

Not in real life, at least not anymore. In the past I tried signing "diet contracts" with a friend. We even had penalties for breaking the agreement, but we never enforced them. It was still based on the honor system, and if I confessed to going off plan and "breaking the contract" this usually just drew out a confession from the other person that they too went off plan. In the past it was solely about weight. Today it is about health, so I am more driven and committed. My "accountability partners" are communities like this one, and being focused on helping others following a similar dietary lifestyle to remain encouraged.

I don't do OMAD, so I can't answer this one. I do 2MAD during the week, and then I do an extended fast from Friday dinner to Saturday dinner (24 hrs) or sometimes I even put it off to Sunday breakfast (about 40 hrs). I currently don't have an interest in doing OMAD, lol. I love to eat and don't really have an interest in 2MAD but I am doing it for my health

Since gout is found to be related to hyperinsulinemia (a condition where the insulin level in your blood is higher than what’s considered normal), then a ketogenic diet or carnivore diet would be best for him. Restrict carbohydrate intake to low-moderate levels, eliminate sugary sodas and fruit juices (never drink calories), and minimize or eliminate alcohol consumption. Cutting out starchy vegetables, grains, and sugars altogether (including most fruit, with the exception of a few berries here and there) and greatly reducing carbohydrates (still allowing for low carb cruciferous veggies) will also make doing OMAD easier because that one meal a day will be nutrient dense and he will feel fuller for longer, whereas carbs bring on voracious cravings and hunger pangs. Honestly, just going OMAD might be enough as long as he doesn't consume sweetened beverages, because your blood sugar and insulin levels are going to remain very low for most of 24 hours until he has his meal.

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Last night I had 3/4 pound of ground beef and mixed in 4 eggs and some blue cheese crumbles. I recently bought some beef tallow and used tablespoon of that to bump up the fat content. Then we went out for karaoke and I did cave and had a shot of bourbon. I have a drink maybe once a month now since starting my health journey and carnivore diet. I used to have some bourbon every single night.