Bob

So let's start by describing your symptoms. Where is the rash? Is it all over or concentrated on certain parts of your body? Does it itch?
I can understand why you might not be sure which it is, a keto rash or a histamine intolerance, since symptoms of the two can be similar.
I wouldn't do this. Like @Geezy said, fat is your energy. I would still aim for 70% of your calories coming from fat and 30% coming from protein (this is acheived by basically eat 1g of fat for every 1g of protein). According to Dr. Boz, on variant of a Keto rash in an inflammation caused by little "critters" living in your skin that love glucose. If you are not eating enough fat, then your body will be working overtime to convert protein into glucose through a process called gluconeogenesis. It's as if you are eating carbs. They were initially starved when you started keto, but when you decided to lower the fat, your glucose production may have went up, and these little guys got excited and started multiplying. I'm not sure if I buy that, but she makes it make sense.

If you are actively losing weight and burning your body fat, these could actually have toxins or histamines stored in them, which are being released into your blood stream.
Again, where is the rash? Centrally located? Or all over?
Some thoughts on how to test this yourself include adding back in 50-100 carbs a day for the next 2 weeks by adding fruit. This is called an "animal-based" carnivore diet (for whatever reason, lol). But STILL EAT the eggs, steak, and whatever else you have been eating. If it's keto rash, symptoms should alleviate and you can then try again with cutting the plants out. If it's histamines I wouldn't expect any changes.
For keto rash, topical steroids will help for itching and oral antibiotics with help with inflammation.
To test for histamines, aim for the freshest meat possible, straight from the butcher. Grocery store meat will have been hung and aged for weeks before packaging. Avoid jerky, canned meats, etc.
For histamines, an antihistamine will help alleviate the itch.
So if antihistamines help, your problem leans towards histamine intolerance. If hydrocortisone cream and an antibiotic help, then it's more likely keto rash.

As expected. Carbs provide a lot of instantly available energy. Fat/ketones provide a steady stream of sustained energy. Consuming carbs is like throwing crumpled up newpaper into a fire. It instantly burns releasing energy. Eating fat is like throwing a log on that fire. The fire is going to keep burning for hours and is guaranteed not to go out.
What I have heard is that yes, you will see a performance hit in the gym. But over time, as you become more and more fat adapted, you will eventually get back to those performance markers you were hitting previously. But it won't happen overnight, and it might even take a year.

So let's start by describing your symptoms. Where is the rash? Is it all over or concentrated on certain parts of your body? Does it itch?
I can understand why you might not be sure which it is, a keto rash or a histamine intolerance, since symptoms of the two can be similar.
I wouldn't do this. Like @Geezy said, fat is your energy. I would still aim for 70% of your calories coming from fat and 30% coming from protein (this is acheived by basically eat 1g of fat for every 1g of protein). According to Dr. Boz, on variant of a Keto rash in an inflammation caused by little "critters" living in your skin that love glucose. If you are not eating enough fat, then your body will be working overtime to convert protein into glucose through a process called gluconeogenesis. It's as if you are eating carbs. They were initially starved when you started keto, but when you decided to lower the fat, your glucose production may have went up, and these little guys got excited and started multiplying. I'm not sure if I buy that, but she makes it make sense.

If you are actively losing weight and burning your body fat, these could actually have toxins or histamines stored in them, which are being released into your blood stream.
Again, where is the rash? Centrally located? Or all over?
Some thoughts on how to test this yourself include adding back in 50-100 carbs a day for the next 2 weeks by adding fruit. This is called an "animal-based" carnivore diet (for whatever reason, lol). But STILL EAT the eggs, steak, and whatever else you have been eating. If it's keto rash, symptoms should alleviate and you can then try again with cutting the plants out. If it's histamines I wouldn't expect any changes.
For keto rash, topical steroids will help for itching and oral antibiotics with help with inflammation.
To test for histamines, aim for the freshest meat possible, straight from the butcher. Grocery store meat will have been hung and aged for weeks before packaging. Avoid jerky, canned meats, etc.
For histamines, an antihistamine will help alleviate the itch.
So if antihistamines help, your problem leans towards histamine intolerance. If hydrocortisone cream and an antibiotic help, then it's more likely keto rash.

Excellent. I love hearing about carnivore successes, even the seemingly small ones that actually really really matter as they continue to add up. Keep doing what you are doing!

doesn't our liver replace glucose in our cells without eating carbs?? that's my understanding. As for myself and the few I've talked to we feel as strong if not stronger just eating fat

I have read it both ways, but I think that lands on the intensity and duration of the exercise more so than the different fuel sources.
A person pushing themselves to their maximum effort every session could answer that question better than me as my exercising, lifting and walking is effective but let's just say 'I don't leave it all on the field every time out'.
The paper and log analogy is spot on. The paper will always burn faster and possibly hotter for a brief moment and once the log is burning the steady burn and the hot coals remain constant unless a piece breaks off and there may be a spurt of burn/flame but nothing like the spike of the paper.
If I were a super-duper athlete doing super-duper work, I can see the need for that spurt of energy to get thru the workout. What I see as being the true advantage of the scenario is that when the paper flames up and is gone the steadiness of the fire from the log remains constant. it is not like the fire dims or goes out without the continual adding of the paper. If that makes any sense at all.
If at any point my workouts ramp to the point I am at an energy deficit I could see this as an option. The workouts and the loads are ever increasing but the "log" is holding me just fine right now. LOL
Still a very interesting topic.
Scott

Just one cup of black decaf coffee plus H2O for the rest of today.
Going for a hamburger tomorrow at our favorite little roadside stand. They are closing for Winter this Sunday so we need one of their burgers before the snow flies for the next 6 months! (Sucky Wisconsin life)

They already have reacted.
In 2020 Harvard released a study that showed the overwhelming majority of the test subjects on a carnivore/really low carb diet showed benefits pretty much across the board, from weight loss being the obvious, to inflammation reduction, relief from various gut issues and others.
The response triggered a ripple in the research community which brought back studies from the past that showed the benefits of a red meat diet and even further back to what is called now a proper human diet.
Then in 2024 Harvard reversed its opinion on carnivore and the benefits of the lifestyle/way of eating.
The difference between 2020 and 2024? A multi-billion dollar donation from the gate keepers. One it promotes his attempts at lab grown meats (Big Tech) and keeps the processed food industry as the primary source of nutrition for many (Big Food) which in turn keeps us all sick and unhealthy (Big Pharma).
I'm not all into conspiracies and I don't think this is conspiracy in that sense. I think it is as simple as greed and the desire to control and have power. I have not contributed to the processed food industry in well over a year. I have not taken any medicine since June 2024. Odds are I have had my last infusion. Just me alone had clipped those groups for thousands (infusion is $57,000 twice per year. Processed and junk food was $425 a month multiplied by 12 is another ~$5000.
If just me alone can remove over $100,000 from the BIG PICTURE equation, just imagine the impact of just the people on this forum. Then imagine the carnivore/keto community as a whole.
The billions of dollars was an investment into our future, some profit and some get sick and the ones that act out are silenced thru marketing and mass media. It is a business model that has worked amazingly well since the 50's.
Scott

People may have their reasons for stopping the carnivore diet but I was also wondering how the processed food companies and other associated industries could react if more people move to carnivore.

This "quitting carnivore" or "adding back carbs" themes circle back around every couple years. It's mostly click bait, as mentioned above. Even my first video I made on my channel (2 years ago) I put the words "I almost quit carnivore" because it was trending back then. Although in my case, it was a true part of my story that I almost scared myself into quitting when I got blood work that I didn't expect, I admittedly put those words in there to attract interest, lol.
In hindsight I kinda hate it and alway intend to make a new thumbnail for that video.

As expected. Carbs provide a lot of instantly available energy. Fat/ketones provide a steady stream of sustained energy. Consuming carbs is like throwing crumpled up newpaper into a fire. It instantly burns releasing energy. Eating fat is like throwing a log on that fire. The fire is going to keep burning for hours and is guaranteed not to go out.
What I have heard is that yes, you will see a performance hit in the gym. But over time, as you become more and more fat adapted, you will eventually get back to those performance markers you were hitting previously. But it won't happen overnight, and it might even take a year.

Excellent. I love hearing about carnivore successes, even the seemingly small ones that actually really really matter as they continue to add up. Keep doing what you are doing!

I must say that I am once again a fan of the power bowl. Lately I have been mixing ground beef, scrambled eggs, breakfast sausage, and bacon all together. It's so tasty that cheese isn't even required, lol.

good deal, keep going.

The newest improvements Ive just noted is the ability easily bend over and pick stuff up, squat down and easily get up, and to balance on one leg. Balance is not 100% quite yet but huge improvements when I think back to January of this year.

Congrats. You are discovering the wonders of feeding your body with proper nutrition.

That is sort of how it works. It takes time and then it feels "all of a sudden".
Congrats. I'm in the same boat. I can't see eating another way after all the positives I have had since going carnivore.
I guess my biggest fear is with my luck I will choose the very thing that caused me issues in the past. My luck ruins like that. LOL
I'm pretty much going with the 'not going to rock the boat' approach to my current eating plan.
Scott

At about 3 months on carnivore I really noticed circulation and body weakness on my left side and as the weight came off a number of health issues I had before that were hidden. I'mnow around 7 months pretty strict carnivore. Today I was out walking and noticed a significant return of strength on my left side (just about perfectly matching my right side) and only a twinge of pain in my hip at one point. I experienced much quicker recovery on my right side, so discovery is very encouraging. Not going back.

Very true.
The 'harvests' way back when was minimal in comparison. We spray, we hybrid plants, we preserve all in efforts to maximum the volume, make it last long enough to ship it all over the world.
Today's tomato is not yesterday's tomato by any stretch of the imagination.
Scott

I will add that the fruit and veg that our for fathers ate are not what is available to us today. Everything available today is not what God created but what man bastardized.

I'm with Geezy. I consider myself carnivore (I now think I am in a carnivore lifestyle after 17 months as for the longest I considered it a carnivore diet-changes with time) but I do get some sugars in here and there with the protein supplements I am using. For me, the tad bits of sugar here and there have boosted my appetite.
I have more than surpassed the weight loss goals and the bonus plan was I hit a bunch of metabolic and overall health achievements that I didn't know were possible when I first started. Sort of like the bonus plan.
I believe in individual continual improvements. Most come to carnivore off some sort of dumpster diet, or from a dumpster diet to a keto type diet and then on to carnivore. We all vary. Once we have made improvements there may be some adjustments to continue health improvements or get a person to a spot where they can 'enjoy' other foods (responsibly and maybe in moderation, but enjoy them the same) and still eat primary carnivore.
Our ancestors ate fruits and vegetables and plant matter regularly when they were available or in season. Granted they didn't spray them and color them and preserve them to ship them all over the world year around but they did eat them. I am sure we could do the same and be very healthy.
I have done so well on the pretty much strict carnivore I don't see me changing anytime soon. I am not the luckiest guy in the world and I am sure which ever carb I choose will be the one that triggers my auto immune issues. Somedays, I just 'got it like that'.
I do see many bailing on the lifestyle but like Geezy said, a lot of those videos turn out to be click bait. And, for most, click bait works cause they keep doing it. LOL
Scott

Welcome Mary.
I’ve been seeing many of those click bait posts on Utube here lately but it’s just that…click bait. Many people don’t really understand carnivore. Carnivore is not a true zero carb diet. There is no such thing as even eating all fat and protein you will still get some carbs. Even if you intentionally eat a few carby items now and then it doesn’t mean you aren’t carnivore. Even the lion and the wolf will eat grass occasionally.
Carnivore is about providing your body with the optimal food to get the optimal nutrition that it runs best on and that’s animal fats and proteins. If one is eating a diet that consists primarily of those two items I think they could still be considered carnivore. Some purists might disagree and that’s their prerogative to do so but that wouldn’t make them right, only dogmatic.

Good morning! I’ve noticed many posts on social media that some Carnivores are quitting this lifestyle? My biggest why is to lower my blood glucose. I’ve been Carnivore for 521 days and have had many NSV’s, lowered my blood glucose, managed my anxiety, better skin, sleep, I’m happier and I did manage to lose a few pounds. Thank you for this community-I really enjoy the Carnivore Talk YouTube Monday night Livestream! Wishing you a wonderful day! 🥓🥩🌞🍳🐄

True.
I use them for protein supplementation/boost appetite (a tad bit of sugar) but nothing replaces a good steak. LOL
Scott

I never could tolerate protein powders.. maybe my system is so sensitive… real food is hard to beat.