Scott F.

Great topic. This week I will just sit back and be a fan. We are in a maintenance shutdown at work, one of the other supervisors has some health issues and I'm on a 15 day stretch with 14 12+ hour shifts. I'm about half-way thru. I'm going to get a 72 hour fast in over the next four or five days. As for cooking, my wife asks, "What do you want to eat today/tonight?". I answer, "Anything red." I guess my diet is now called the 'red meat surprise'. Food looks great. I will circle back to this topic in a couple weeks when I have time to wind down and use the grill to decompress. LOL Scott

I used a ketone meter for a stretch while fasting. Over several fasts I found where I peaked in ketosis, on average. From there I time my workouts around those times. I am not sure how much impact it has as I have not had any real energy lapses to compare. I start the fast and workout that morning, and usually about 24-36 hours I am really deep in in ketosis. I also couple the ketone meter with a glucose monitor to get a GKI number. After my fasting starts I workout and then around 30 hours later is my next work out. And from there about 24 hours a part thru the end of the fast, which usually lasts about 96 hours. I agree with Geezy, how I feel factors more than the meter or the scale. Scott

My blood sugar has always been relatively low. Prior to carnivore If I didn't eat after 6PM the next morning my glucose would be in the upper 80's to low 90's. And I ate a dumpster diet to say the least. I never had a glucose reading over 100 until six to eight months int carnivore. Sort of freaked at the 111, and stayed just above 100 for a few weeks until I cut back on milk (big fan, still am). Milk is/was an automatic stall trigger in the beginning. So for glucose, I didn't see anything that I would relate to processed foods. My HDL did move from the 40's to the upper 50's. And my triglycerides improved as well. Doing the math I am right around one, now. Much better than prior to carnivore. I am sure the elimination of processed foods played a part but I doubt I could distinguish processed foods from all the other garbage I was eating. I benefitted from the elimination of all the garbage. I eat pepperoni out of the grocery store packs, maybe a family pack every other week or so. I eat the bacon my wife picks and it is bathed in 'sugars'. I am predominantly a red meat eater but the pepperoni, the bacon and the milk sometimes put me int he crosshairs of the carnivore police. (LOL) Nice read. Scott

When the studies say 'observational' or 'surveyed' I lose interest and a lot of times stop reading at that point. I like data, actual data, and how it speaks to certain issues. I think observational and surveyed studies fall into one half of 'causation and correlation' and in that half it is a lot of assumptions and speculations. And at the same time, I factor how I feel and how I am doing and will rank that above any data that says my strict carnivore, primarily red meat, salt and water will have adverse effects at some point. Good topic. Scott

The studies are nice reads at times and even, when they are pro 'my way of thinking', I still take it with a grain of salt. I feel like the overwhelming majority of the studies are started with an agenda, and also fell like the studies that are published fit the original agenda. Those that didn't seem to get shelved. It feels that way for both sides of any study. I'm in the pharmaceutical business. We have to everything the same way every time or it is rejected. That is 100% accuracy (as it should be/as it has to be). I have that 100% mindset in a lot of things, and especially the studies. A study will come out and say 68% of people that did blah blah blah became cancer patients. My first thought is that why didn't they double down on the next study on the 32% people who didn't. You are 27% more likely to have blah blah blah if you do this or that. What about the 73% of people who did not have issues with blah blah blah, and what are they doing differently. Understanding my approach is flawed to studies, it does help me read both sides and not have an overboard reaction to either side. Scott

Good luck and hopefully that plan works for you. For me, there is a difference in the proteins which makes me a red meat fan. Scott

Agreed. My carnivore and fasting have become a 'running joke' (in a good way) at work. "Are you going to eat this week?" or "want a slice of my pizza?". So now when I cruise thru the break room, or the engineering offices and people are eating all kinds of stuff I say, "You should look up insulin resistance." As I watch others eat, 'one small serving' would probably be a huge improvement for most. Scott

Prior to carnivore, never really putting two and two together, the only thing I ever really differentiated between meats was that pork was less filling. Before eating primarily red meats, I could eat a ton of pork and within a little while be hungry all over again. Granted, I am sure the other garbage I was eating was adding to the hunger, but with pork, the hunger came faster. Once going carnivore, I can feel the difference between the proteins. Chicken and fish don't seem to carry me like red meat and the pork is a distant fourth. Eggs do OK but the satiation effect of red meat really sets itself apart, at least for me anyway. Maybe one of the uncommon things for me is that I have a better understanding of the proteins and how they work for me as most people, like me beforehand, sees a protein as a protein. Scott

I don't use the deodorant either. I didn't think about it. Prior to carnivore I could get hot and sweaty and smell like a goat in no time. Since, even the harder days in the gym or working here around the house I don't seem to 'give off an aroma'. It is sort of weird. Scott

You know it is a good time when he crawls up to get out of the side by side and the first words are, "Did anyone get a video of that?". LOL I don't know how to make the memes and stuff but this one would be my buddy in the pic to a "T". When Drew says if we take this trail, we are 30 minutes from the house and it translates to the next two hours will be the best four-hour ride of the weekend. Scott

I am not sure I have any except maybe the OMAD just sort of happened and I had to purposely eat more to off set some weight loss/strength loss. I didn't see that coming at all. I use whatever toothpastes my wife buys and seldom get the same one two purchases in a row. Not a lot of hair to work with so care products are limited, not much more than a bar of Dial soap. I missed last week's roundtable. I am a lifelong shift worker so my sleep patterns are not exactly ideal. Working days or nights I sleep from about 9 to 3. Prior to carnivore I could go back to sleep and get another hour to two hours and then start my day. Still an early start at 5/6 but since carnivore that has changed. I didn't get the mental clarity or cognizant effect people talk about with carnivore. What I got was when I wake up I'm up, and there is no going back to sleep. My days now start as 3:30 AM or PM depending on when I lay down for that day. it does not sound like a a good habit but I take advantage by going to the gym really early, my day starts sooner and I get a lot more done. Coupling that with the steady supply of energy I now get some things done vs. putting stuff off til another day. Good topic. I hadn't thought much about it. Scott

I'm 6'3". I feel the same about the cravings. I never had cravings when I switched and maybe the sugar triggering my hunger is borderline craving. That I am not sure about. I don't jones for more sugar but i do eat a red meat when it happens. Maybe if I didn't eat the satiating red meat the trigger would manifest into a craving. I'm not sure, or maybe after two plus years I am past that as an issue. Still learning. Scott

I started off north of 320 and got down to 211 but at 211 I felt like I lost some strength in the gym as well as the energy was there, just not the same. Probably not the same amount of energy, not reduction enough to launch red flags, but 211 didn't feel as good as 220 or so. Several months ago, I attempted to increase my protein intake to hit certain targets. I re-introduced some sugar (by accident) and found it triggered my appetite. I hit the targets most of the time and before I knew it, I went from that 211 to the mid to upper 230's. The strength actually increased and the energy level returned. After a month or so I settled in the upper 220's. This past weekend I rode side by sides in West Virginia. I pre-made my meals and not intentionally but it turned out to be strict carnivore. No dairy. no sauces or rubs, just meat, salt and water from Thursday til Sunday. On Monday morning I had lost nearly six pounds from Thursday morning. On Monday I started drinking milk again, used some sauce on a steak and snacked on butter a couple three times per day. Before you know it, picked up a couple pounds as quick this week as I dropped it last week. It feels pretty good to know I have control of the dial to drive my own weight/health. Scott

In search of a path out of a soggy, mud filled bottom my buddy was backing up and slipped of an embankment. Just about two hours later we had him on all fours and ready to ride again. Scott

I can never seem to remember to take pictures. We went to West Virginia to ride the Hatfield and McCoy trails/Outlaw trails. My wife pre-cooked the meals for me on Wednesday evening. It would have been a great picture of a nice spread. 2 ribeyes, about 12 big hamburger patties, a pound of bacon, maybe a 1/2 pound of homemade sausage and 8 boiled eggs. Thursday from 8AM til 3:30 AM I ate a 1/2 pound of bacon, 2 eggs and 4 hamburger patties. Friday morning from 10:30AM til midnight I ate 2 eggs, a 1/2 pound of sausage, and 4 hamburger patties. Saturday I ate 2 eggs, two hamburger patties and two big ribeyes from 9AM til midnight. I did eat an amazing hamburger topped with bacon and cheese at the Outlaw Biker Bar. I am sure it was cooked in some sort of vegetable oil. Maybe it was I was tired, wet and hungry, not sure, but it was one of the best burgers I have ever eaten. Sunday morning I finished the two last two burgers on the ride home. A different topic but I found it very easy to eat what I took while the others in our group ate from the local restaurants, sandwiches, snacks and of course, all the beer they drank. They were actually very considerate asking if I minded stopping with them to eat at a pizza joint. Good group of guys. (I will admit, although it was not a craving, nor did I feel like I was going to succumb, but that may have been the best smelling pizza ever. I told the guys if I ever decided to "give carbs a go" we would ride to West Virginia and his that pizza joint. LOL I will post a couple pics on the other thread. Still wish I had snapped a photo of the spread. Scott