Scott F.

I think a lot of people go the 16:8 route. I have never had insulin nor blood glucose issues (never got over a 100 til carnivore, go figure?) If the circadian rhythm is factored and the normal dawn effect with blood sugar, an early breakfast sets the tone for insulin resistance the rest of the day. For me, if I am eating breakfast I make it much later in the morning, more like lunch time. I have read 16:8 is more effective if the 16 is from later at night til midafternoon. Personally, I have used OMAD form of fasting, and my longest was 7 days. I'm back on nights this week. I ate last night and will eat again this weekend, maybe Friday or Saturday. I'm a big fan of the fast. At this point it is all about the healing and the life longevity it provides. Weight loss is just a "lil' bonus". Scott

Experiment in a forward moving path. Figure out what works for you. I quit drinking 20+ years ago. Either I was really getting good at it or I was totally regressing. I got blistered drunk. A deer ran out in front my wife's new car and I couldn't get out to check on the things. Basically, I said, "Let it roll" and I didn't hear anything, so we drove home. When we got home her door would not open and she had to crawl over me to get out. Later that night my son got really sick and had to go to the hospital with a fever. I was still drunk in the car. I have never felt lower. I stopped cold turkey that next morning. Never wanted another drop. When I switched to carnivore, I went cold turkey and didn't have any of the sugar cravings others have experienced (just lucky, I guess). Since I have not drank in a lot of years I have had none of those cravings. I can't really speak to those with experience. My only advice would be try to plug something healthier into those cravings. If you can skip one, and then in time skip two, they should get further and further apart, until you no longer have that load to carry. Best of luck. Not much help. Scott

There is a guy at our gym who is what he calls part-time carnivore-part-time keto and sometimes whatever he wants. He uses carnivore like a tool much the same as a hammer or a wrench. He will go three or four months on a strict carnivore diet and reap those benefits and from there he eases into a keto-type diet by reintroducing certain things to his diet. From there he morphs into some bad eating habits. When the bad eating habits come back around and he adds a few pounds he switches back to a strict carnivore diet. He has done this for the last few years. I can see where it would work for a lot of people. We laughed because we both agreed that we can dig a hole with a hammer but there are better tools out there. He is the first person I met that purposely starts and stops carnivore with a reason in mind. Scott

Yes. I use Bulk Supplement brand whey protein. On occasion I buy the Fairlife 30Gram Chocolate protein drink (I think it is 7g of sugar per bottle). I didn't realize the sugar would have the impact it did. I went to the protein drinks/shakes because I could not eat anywhere near 200 grams of protein in a day. When others would talk about eating 2lbs, and even more, in a meal I was blown away. There was a stretch when 2lbs could last me three days. I am sort of jealous. LOL The sugar has spiked my appetite but not to the point I can consistently hit the protein target for muscle growth. Since I can't get there with food I choke down a protein shake here and there to boos my daily protein. Thus far the appetite is still what would be considered carnivore and the drinks have not gave me any cravings for more sugar. Scott

True. But the real definition can't be sold to the masses. The made up definition is a much easier sell. LOL Scott

I think we can all start on the same path but the true successes will see us splinter off down our individual paths. If I eat 14-16oz. steak I do no want to even look at food til the next day, much less eat it. What I found is that when I reintroduced sugar (by accident/semi-accident) I found it triggered hunger. The sugars that are in the protein drinks I use help me eat a second meal. The second meal helps me get within striking distance of my protein goals. Sometimes my OMAD turned into One Meal Every Other Day. I think that leads to a battle between protein curbing the hunger and the sugar triggering it. I think that battle could be deemed as a stressor Scott.

It sounds like you fared well anyway. LOL A high school funny. We were somewhere between figuring out the sizes of triangles in Geometry with Algebraic equations and I made the age-old comment, " I will never use this in life". My teacher quickly replied, "Your dad pours concrete and builds houses, doesn't he?" I nodded yes, and he said, "He can't go a day without using it". It took some time for that to sink in. Scott

I sort of think they all diets work and then all diets fail. Success is in the lifestyle change.

Sometimes I think the fact we are not all the same gets lost when looking what carnivore has done for others and hoping about what it will do. As Geezy suggested, try a different approach. Maybe two smaller meals will work better for you. If the fruit is serving the purpose of a snack or something in between meals you can replace it with some sort of meat snack. In my first few months I would have a couple burgers or some bacon in the refrigerator. Thise will work in a pinch and will do no harm. And if it has to be something in the family of fruits and vegetables then maybe something like an avocado or something similar. It is much better to find what works for you than modeling your approach after another. I have changed a number of times since May '24, sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad. It is like I have been dialing in since the start. Good luck. Keep plugging away. The goal is to figure out your path. Scott

Mathematics are amazing. I was at 31% at the beginning of December and now just shy of 26% after eating more than when I was hungry. Scott

Me too. My PCP still suggests a statin or a non-statin for my cholesterol. He is a big fan of the weight loss but not the biggest fan of the route. He wants me to use lean cuts of meat. I almost attempted to explain lean meat would sort of defeat the purpose but I didn't see any chance of changing his mind, so I left it at that. My Neurologist on the other hand, is super supportive and not prescribing it as a treatment but is recommending people in his clinic look into the carnivore approach. He is amazed by my story and admits he didn't my results coming when I first let him in on my plan. And now he is moving and I have a new Neurologist come April/May. I am sort of intrigued about his response. Scott

New Study DESTROYS What Everyone Thought About Carnivore It may be old. I didn't check the date. Pretty god video. Scott

I work with a guy who had one of the gastric surgeries and lost 200+ pounds and kept it off for a couple years and then........ He ballooned to well over 400lbs over the next few years. A couple years ago he had a second surgery but before hand he had to attend all these classes and lose X amount of weight via the plan. He did so, has had the surgery and this time appears to be doing as he should. We have another person who uses one of the GLP drugs and initially lost a lot of weight, then stalled and gained some back, but in turn asked the doctor (and received) an increased dosage. It's like, "the first pill is so I can lower my blood sugar but I eat the second pill so I can eat the cake too". Again, no personal experience but that is what it looks like from this side of the fence looking over. I could be wrong. Scott

It all depends on the person. I have been strict carnivore since May of '24 and I have yet to feel the 'clarity' others talk about. Maybe the closest thing for me is that when I wake up in the morning (or even in the middle of the night) I am awake. I am ready to go, no dragging out of bed, sluggish nor slow. Eyes open and feet hit the floor. That is about as close as I have gotten to a mental change. I am not sure about the keto bliss. I do feel better than I ever did between being off medications for an auto-immune disease, the weight loss and the shift in daily energy. I don't have like crazy made energy from carnivore, but it is more steady and feels readily available throughout the day. I do longer fasts myself, anywhere between 72 and 96 hours once per month. I did do a 7 day stretch a couple of months ago. I do find a lot more energy while fasting than when eating. Hope you can find the path that helps and allows you to sustain. Scott

Again, from the outside looking in as I have no personal experience. I could see (maybe) using the drug to get the weight off and at the same time adjusting the way of eating and such to help keep the weight off. At some point not being dependent upon the drug. I am sure if I stopped eating carnivore and went back to my dumpster diet from before I would more than likely gain the weight back, and probably add some more. I have a guy at work who tried the carnivore diet and lost a bunch of weight and relieved some lower back issues. In time he eased back to eating like before and gained the weight back. He is now on one of the "ozempics", not sure of the brand. He was on the office phone the other day asking about having his dosage increased. When he was off the phone, I suggested carnivore again and he said the shot was just easier. I think that is the approach of most. "I don't have to do anything and lose weight". I also thin for the marketing departments it makes for a really easy "sell". Scott