Scott F.

I will buy a gallon once a week sometimes every other week. I may drink some every other day, here and there, but nothing scheduled. It is somewhere between 'not every day and I like it enough to call it a treat'. Scott

The 'conspiracy theorist' in me feels like the number is even higher. And most mis-labeling is driven by profitability. Scott

When I first started I checked everything almost daily. I checked glucose, ketones, bodyweight daily. I was a three month schedule on bloodwork (My infusion twice per year and work required blood work twice per year. Each about three months apart so I was stacking personal data for a stretch. Not so much anymore. Yes on the milk and it also depends on the milk as well. My wife buys 2% lactose free, etc. etc. milks. I will drink pretty much whatever is on sale from regular whole milk, to 2% and even her lactose free at times. When my weight was falling the milk was just like applying brakes, the weight loss stopped and the fall turned into a mini-stall. During that time my blood sugar would creep out of the lower 90's and into the low 100's. Once early on I hit 111 and didn't have a real grasp about how "carnivore" was spiking my blood sugar. I then narrowed it down to milk. What is weird is that the milk having some sugars didn't trigger my hunger. I later found that drinking a milk-protein drink spiked my glucose to the the 100-110 area but it also triggered my hunger. I sort of balance the two now and went from 211 (from north of 320) back up to 225 where I feel pretty good. Another funny, I have now replaced the glucose monitor, the ketone monitor and the bathroom scale for "I feel good" and roll with that. LOL Scott

@Geezy Sort of the same line of thinking when I made the comment about soem of the 'science backed studies' on another post. "61% of the people had blah blah blah when eating red meat" I often wonder what about the other 39%. What makes thme different? Similar to milk. Some people tolerate it, some people do not, and some even thrive on it. And some, like me, just really like it. LOL As said, I am for the most part a red meat carnivore. It is working for me, but I am just about know what works for me will not work for everyone. Although we are a small part of the dietary/nutritional community, even if we get piled all together as 'carnivores' there is a ton of individualism amongst us. I think that sometimes gets lost. Scott

Probably a tri-tip, followed by beef ribs then a pork shoulder over the four day span I'm off. The funny thing is it seems I always think of taking the pictures just as I have sat down to eat. Scott

Great topic. This week I will just sit back and be a fan. We are in a maintenance shutdown at work, one of the other supervisors has some health issues and I'm on a 15 day stretch with 14 12+ hour shifts. I'm about half-way thru. I'm going to get a 72 hour fast in over the next four or five days. As for cooking, my wife asks, "What do you want to eat today/tonight?". I answer, "Anything red." I guess my diet is now called the 'red meat surprise'. Food looks great. I will circle back to this topic in a couple weeks when I have time to wind down and use the grill to decompress. LOL Scott

I used a ketone meter for a stretch while fasting. Over several fasts I found where I peaked in ketosis, on average. From there I time my workouts around those times. I am not sure how much impact it has as I have not had any real energy lapses to compare. I start the fast and workout that morning, and usually about 24-36 hours I am really deep in in ketosis. I also couple the ketone meter with a glucose monitor to get a GKI number. After my fasting starts I workout and then around 30 hours later is my next work out. And from there about 24 hours a part thru the end of the fast, which usually lasts about 96 hours. I agree with Geezy, how I feel factors more than the meter or the scale. Scott

My blood sugar has always been relatively low. Prior to carnivore If I didn't eat after 6PM the next morning my glucose would be in the upper 80's to low 90's. And I ate a dumpster diet to say the least. I never had a glucose reading over 100 until six to eight months int carnivore. Sort of freaked at the 111, and stayed just above 100 for a few weeks until I cut back on milk (big fan, still am). Milk is/was an automatic stall trigger in the beginning. So for glucose, I didn't see anything that I would relate to processed foods. My HDL did move from the 40's to the upper 50's. And my triglycerides improved as well. Doing the math I am right around one, now. Much better than prior to carnivore. I am sure the elimination of processed foods played a part but I doubt I could distinguish processed foods from all the other garbage I was eating. I benefitted from the elimination of all the garbage. I eat pepperoni out of the grocery store packs, maybe a family pack every other week or so. I eat the bacon my wife picks and it is bathed in 'sugars'. I am predominantly a red meat eater but the pepperoni, the bacon and the milk sometimes put me int he crosshairs of the carnivore police. (LOL) Nice read. Scott

When the studies say 'observational' or 'surveyed' I lose interest and a lot of times stop reading at that point. I like data, actual data, and how it speaks to certain issues. I think observational and surveyed studies fall into one half of 'causation and correlation' and in that half it is a lot of assumptions and speculations. And at the same time, I factor how I feel and how I am doing and will rank that above any data that says my strict carnivore, primarily red meat, salt and water will have adverse effects at some point. Good topic. Scott

The studies are nice reads at times and even, when they are pro 'my way of thinking', I still take it with a grain of salt. I feel like the overwhelming majority of the studies are started with an agenda, and also fell like the studies that are published fit the original agenda. Those that didn't seem to get shelved. It feels that way for both sides of any study. I'm in the pharmaceutical business. We have to everything the same way every time or it is rejected. That is 100% accuracy (as it should be/as it has to be). I have that 100% mindset in a lot of things, and especially the studies. A study will come out and say 68% of people that did blah blah blah became cancer patients. My first thought is that why didn't they double down on the next study on the 32% people who didn't. You are 27% more likely to have blah blah blah if you do this or that. What about the 73% of people who did not have issues with blah blah blah, and what are they doing differently. Understanding my approach is flawed to studies, it does help me read both sides and not have an overboard reaction to either side. Scott

Good luck and hopefully that plan works for you. For me, there is a difference in the proteins which makes me a red meat fan. Scott

Agreed. My carnivore and fasting have become a 'running joke' (in a good way) at work. "Are you going to eat this week?" or "want a slice of my pizza?". So now when I cruise thru the break room, or the engineering offices and people are eating all kinds of stuff I say, "You should look up insulin resistance." As I watch others eat, 'one small serving' would probably be a huge improvement for most. Scott

Prior to carnivore, never really putting two and two together, the only thing I ever really differentiated between meats was that pork was less filling. Before eating primarily red meats, I could eat a ton of pork and within a little while be hungry all over again. Granted, I am sure the other garbage I was eating was adding to the hunger, but with pork, the hunger came faster. Once going carnivore, I can feel the difference between the proteins. Chicken and fish don't seem to carry me like red meat and the pork is a distant fourth. Eggs do OK but the satiation effect of red meat really sets itself apart, at least for me anyway. Maybe one of the uncommon things for me is that I have a better understanding of the proteins and how they work for me as most people, like me beforehand, sees a protein as a protein. Scott

I don't use the deodorant either. I didn't think about it. Prior to carnivore I could get hot and sweaty and smell like a goat in no time. Since, even the harder days in the gym or working here around the house I don't seem to 'give off an aroma'. It is sort of weird. Scott

You know it is a good time when he crawls up to get out of the side by side and the first words are, "Did anyone get a video of that?". LOL I don't know how to make the memes and stuff but this one would be my buddy in the pic to a "T". When Drew says if we take this trail, we are 30 minutes from the house and it translates to the next two hours will be the best four-hour ride of the weekend. Scott