Scott F.

Thanks. Cooked on the griddle alongside whatever else they were cooking. When I looked back into the kitchen it was a normal size bottle of oil but to me it stood out like it was a five-gallon bucket. One of the oddities with carnivore (for me anyways) is that I ate using seed oils my entire life with no issue. Once I went five-six months without them the least bit now sends me running for the bathroom. My wife cooked some fries one night and then did the burgers in the same pan. She said, "I forgot" and I said, "shouldn't matter all that much for no more oil than is there". It did. Scott

Welcome and good luck. Bob hit the points you mentioned, spot on. Everyone is different and no one approach works for all. You may need to ease into it. Carnivore eating is much more about what you are not eating. You may be able to go 'cold turkey' on the carbs and sugars. If so, great, if not, any reduction in carbs and sugars will be better than no reduction at all. Don't worry about 'bothering' anyone here. This is a great place to learn and an even better place to offer up your personal experiences with carnivore. Everyone has a story to tell. At 77 and me being 55, I need to figure out how to get there too so your experiences are worth their weight in gold, at least to me anyway. Good luck. I'm 11 months in and I can personally say it did wonders for my pain and inflammation. I think everyone should give it a try. Scott

I may need to try that as the summer approaches. I could swim in the sunblock and still come out burned. Scott

I'm leaving for West Virginia in the morning for a four day ride on the Hatfield and McCoy trails. Last year was my first trip while on Carnivore and I didn't plan all that well. I ended up eating some plain burgers cooked in vegetable oil. It landed hard and I had some unexpected pit stops along the trail. This year I am trying to plan a little better. There is also two packs of country style pork ribs and two NY strips that didn't show in the pics. It should be enough to hold me from Wednesday til Sunday. Not really complaining but it is a bit easier just to eat where everyone else eats. LOL Scott

Unless you are a fair skinned "fear the ginger" person like me. I burn, hurt, peel, back to white. Then repeat. I can burn pre-dawn. LOL The closest thing to tanning I ever had was when I spilled Type-F transmission fluid on my leg while wearing shorts. My legs were hanging out from under a 72 K5 Blazer. It just about sizzled like bacon. Turned brown after wards but I wouldn't recommend Type F for sun bathing. LOL Scott

The same boat here. I check it every day. And it moves up and down. When the weight first started falling off there were many more days of losing than gaining. At that time, it was frustrating and somewhat disheartening if it went up a couple pounds unexpectedly. I would over analyze everything I did the days prior. Now after losing 90+ pounds and the 'number' not being as important as it was back then, I check it daily but the swings are a lot less impactful. I don't over analyze what I have eaten or the last couple workouts or the days activities. Most of that changed when I started counting protein. I guess I know I am eating a lot so at some point the weight has to move up and when it does, it is not that big of a deal. Scott

Yes. He seen how well it was working for me and said he would give it a go for two weeks. Those two weeks turned into 30 days and since then he has done very well. He plans in a cheat meal once a week. Sometimes it is barely crossing the lines, but.... He made a really meaty chili but used some tomato paste, cheats similar to that. He has lost 47lbs he told me just a little bit ago as I was getting off and his shift was coming on. I counted for the muscle building aspect but that is sort of fading. I struggle hitting the target as I am gorging myself to eat that much. That is sort of getting old too. Scott

Congrats to you as well. I was really interested in knowing the blood ketones and I will use them on the next fast after that as well. From there, I am not sure. I bought the test kit and it came with either ten or twelve testing strips. It was like $35 for the lance, looks like 25-30 lancets, and the meter. Another set of test strips is like $40-50. I'm not sure I see the point (sort of cheap on a lot of things) I work rotating 12-hour shifts. Four nights followed by three days, then three nights followed by four nights. As I am finding it is really hard for me to eat a gram of protein per pound of ideal bodyweight (that does not even count the needed fat to make that a high fat/moderate protein approach vs the high protein/moderate fat approach). Right now, that is a lot of food. My plan for next month is to fast on the three nights and the four nights, make an attempt to hit the protein mark on the other days but not gorge myself chasing a number. The protein chase is to gain some muscle, but I am not lifting to be the next Mr. Universe/Mr. Olympia. At 55, that ship has sailed. "spreading the word"..... when I say I only eat meats, salt and water one group of people look at me like I am crazy and the other group at that point automatically have a Medical degree and tell me how I should be eating. Then bring up the fact I am going 96 hours without eating, nothing but water/salt, and that first group looks at me like I should be committed to an asylum and the second group uses their newfound medical degree to start CPR or a lobotomy, depending on their newly found specialty. Maybe the bright spot in that is a younger guy at work. He gave Carnivore a try, it started working early, and he has been doing for several months now. He told me this morning he was -46lbs. Another theory of mine, I waited til I was 55 and just about beat down form life's choices and it has worked wonders for me. This guy didn't have any serious medical issues other than being fat. It looks like it is working faster and more effectively if the canvas is a bit cleaner. I am guessing the earlier and healthier one starts the even better the end result will be, but that is just an opinion of mine. Scott

As of this morning I have read all the articles and watched all the videos on carnivore and fasting. LOL (Youtube sent me a notice saying I had made it to the end of the line-actually it was an alarm saying my crystallization and neutralization process needed my attention-both pretty much the same) I have been on Carnivore for a tad over 11 months now and as of late have been digging into fasting on a regular basis. I don't know if I am weird or just built different, but I have only had positive results from both. I have had only two issues, one expected and the other not so much. I have had bouts with loose stools, some self-inflicted by not-so-good choices, and others just didn't get the fats and proteins, and water and electrolytes lined up as well as I should. I think anytime there is a switch in a diet there will be some 'looseness' during the adjustment phase. I guess it was expected. I have lost 92lbs in 11 months and the unexpected 'almost negative' was that I somehow lost weight and size in my feet. I hadn't long bought a pair of boots that were $$$ and all of a sudden, they felt like clown shoes. I had to go to insoles for spacing vs. comfort. I think since I was already pretty much fat adapted rolling into a fast was made easier/worked better. I am sure I was in the lower edges of ketosis at the start of the fast and there was not a lot of 'sugar dump' some need. This past time I tracked blood glucose and blood ketones. Initial ketone level was 0.7 and after Day one it was around 1.4 or 1.5. Between Day #2 and Day #3 it reached four and when I did the math for my GKI numbers it got below 2:1, as low as 1.4 to 1. Around the time the HGH start bouncing around and the ketones are everywhere, and the stem cells are being deployed, maybe around 68-72 hours deep the energy level is crazy. From 72 hours until the completion of the 96-hour fast I had crazy amounts of energy. Not nervous or anxious type energy but a simple, "Let's Go!" type energy. That energy lasted 2-3 days after I started back eating. I'm reading and learning, I can use a lot of the right words, especially the autophagy/ketosis/ketones/stem cells/HGH, etc. etc. but it still is hard to understand how much energy is available from not eating. It goes against what we have all been taught about 'need to eat this'-'need to eat that' to create and sustain energy. Without the personal experience I would have a hard time believing there is an extended boost in energy from not eating for a couple-three days and then have that energy maintained for a couple-three afterwards. Just a really strange concept for me. Anyway, babbling on a slow Sunday morning workday. I spent the last hour or so reading older threads, somewhat to pass the time, but mostly to gain experience form other people's experiences. I get bored reading some of the studies, especially when it veers from directly what I am interested in at the time. The headlines and forum titles call out to me as I scroll thru. Thanks to the board members, both past and present, who have created quite the knowledge base here. Much appreciated. Scott

I have seen 2-3lb swings in a 24-hour period going both ways. Sometimes I am expecting a loss and see a gain, and then vice versa. Looking at the weight as a number can be frustrating. As of late it has been cool to cold when I walk so there is not much sweating. Last week we had a really warm day followed by a rather warm morning. My normal workout clothing is a white undershirt with a long sleeve T shirt on top. When I got home, I put the weighted vest on with a pullover hoodie on top of the vest. I started my walk and about halfway thru I could feel the first warm morning f the spring. Afterwards I found the undershirt was drenched in sweat, even some in the long sleeve. I did my normal, shower then weigh routine. I was fully expecting a loss from the previous day. Exact same weight as the day before. The next day I took off, ate the same with no work out and no walking, I dropped 2lbs. I'm guessing it is the accumulative effect. LOL Scott

Agreed. Crappie and bream are the go-to's around here and you just can't beat cutting up catfish into nuggets. A few years ago I was at my brother-in-law's down on the NC coast. A buddy of his was putting shrimp, talapia and copia in a blender and making a fish paste. He then made balls, battered them and deep fried them. If you have never experienced being conditioned via Pavlov's theory, I have. Every time the deep fryer bell would ding, I was standing right there. When Geezy mentioned fried fish/seafood that popped into my head. Scott

Pretty much the same boat. It has worked for me from being off prescription medicine to losing a lot of weight over 11 months. No gimmicks. No tricks. Just eat fatty meat and things just fell into place. Scott

I can go the Trouts and Salmons and Tunas. The Mackerals and Sardines not so much. The Salmon I can eat by the five gallon bucket. Scott

Some of the fat you speak of is as much environment as it is the split between grass fed and corn fed. The cows in smaller pastures who are fed in the same spot most everyday don't travel much. No need to get too far from the food source. (i.e.. most pigs and chickens are caged/penned, and mobility is at a minimum. On a much smaller scale I can visually see the difference in my chicken eggs between the ones that are free-range (a politically correct term meaning I simply can't catch them as they are wild-ass game hens) and the hens I have caged. The caged hens' yolks are more consistent. Same feed-same mobility. The 'free-range' hens' yokes differ week to week. The free-range hens are thinner and sleeker looking due to mobility. I think the difference for us is minimal other than we pay a ton more once the terminology changes. I like fat as much as the next guy, probably more, and on occasion I will climb up the ladder and pay for the 'marbling' but not often. I like fat as much as the next guy, but I am cheap as all get out too. I'm with Bob, we benefit tremendously from the filtration system of the ruminant animal. Scott

Welcome. I don't have that actual experience, but my tastes are different now. I have been carnivore for just over 11 months. About five months in and I tasted my wife's BBQ sauce. It didn't taste bad, but it was not the same as before. I tasted it again the other night and it was like it had ten times the amount of sugar. I am super sensitive taste wise to sugar, I guess. Good luck as you continue with carnivore. The positives have been amazing for me. Scott