Scott F.

Most everything in one way or another can be traced back to the almighty dollar. A buddy of mine who I worked with fro a lot of years told one of the funniest (saddest) stories ever. he and his brother butchered hogs since childhood. They both worked public jobs but kept the family 'business' going for a lot of years. Their sausage was some of the best I had ever eaten, their bacon was top notch, but their fat-back was absolutely world class. They packed their freezers and then killed hogs as long as the weather held up (cold). it got to the point maybe 90% of their business was here at work. Tons of pork sold over the years. He said one Sunday morning as they were grinding and packaging meat the local sheriff's department as well as the Health Department and one person from the USDA stormed in on them like they were running a crack house. He said the deputies gun's were not drawn but it was hands on the first five minutes. They even referred to it as a "raid". My buddy, nick named "Cowboy" said the USDA person was rude and hateful and asked if the meat was for sale, or did they plan to eat it all? Cowboy replied, "Every F""ing mouthful!" From there it went south. The moral to the story is that on Sunday morning you can operate the local crack house for profit or kill a few hogs for meat selling a portion to off-set costs. One of the brings fines and penalties and the other......they close up shop and move to the next vacant house a few blocks over. I often wonder who signs off on these situations. It is the dollar. Scott

I don't normally chime in on 'other people and their medicines' as that is between you and your doctor and becomes a personal choice, but..... I am assuming that after the accident there was shift in diet as well? I would think you have already seen the results of going carnivore once and I feel like you could expect the same, or at least similar results by giving it another try. Personally, I am not a fan of statins. I had adverse reactions, certain beliefs in what it did to me (no medical affirmation, but a strong personal opinion) and have not read hardly anything positive. I'd be hard-pressed to take a statin anyway, but if I already knew the positives of carnivore, I think I would go that way. best of luck and I hope you find what works best for you. Scott

Strict carnivore can remove some variety which is the exact reason my son has started/stopped several times. he and his wife like to eat out (a lot) and it is hard to stay within the "boundaries" of carnivore. My son uses carnivore in cycles. he will go strict for a month or so, then revert back to his old ways of eating. He loses 10-12-14 pounds and then gains 6-7 back over the next month. I think over the past 12 months he is about 20lbs or so lighter, but 20lbs via the yo-yo effect. Only being a carnivore for 12 months, and being an extremely boring eater, I don't have much advice other than find what works for you. I guess I would say stay "clean" for as long as you can and when you have that "weekend" don't dwell on the weekend, just start a new streak of "clean eating". Over time try to push those weekends further and further apart. I think you can find benefits with that approach. Celebrate your accomplishments and victories and move on from the set-backs. I ported in Naples in the early 90's. I am the furthest thing from a worldly eater. There was a market near the base and the first food stand served these cannoli type pizza rolls. They were packed with meats and cheese and I was hooked. After travelling from the US to Italy I was perfectly happy 30 yards from the base. Scott

I have found as of late I skip around vs. sticking to a task, competing it and then moving on. I was off this week and had big plans. One was getting the cab set on my 50 model truck for the next to the last time and the other was to get the gas tank back in my Blazer. Each time I was interrupted by anything from a phone call, to both my Mom and my buddy having car trouble, I would come back and start on the Blazer if I had been on the 50 model truck. And vice-versa. I'm not sure if it is NMO/SD related or not. Sometimes I think it is somewhat related to the energy I have from carnivore and fasting. For years I didn't have enough energy to fill what free time I had and now I have way more energy than I do free time. It is like I'm now trying to get all done at once. My wife says it is because they stamped my birth certificate "MALE". Who knows? Scott

Welcome. Geezy is spot. Pretty much any sudden or drastic change in diet will result in some gastrointestinal issues, carnivore no different. The plus is that carnivore is an elimination diet and the very things that lead to GI issues are no longer a part of the equation. With the elimination of the carbs and sugars the healing begins which is a transition period of sorts. The transitional period varies dependent on the individual. It can vary in length and 'severity'. (Severity is a strong term as it is mostly bouts of diarrhea or loose stools). Another set of strong terms, but the transition period and the start of healing is triggered by your body going thru detox and withdrawals. I am not a fan of using 'detox' and 'withdrawals' because of all the negative annotations that go with them, but there are really no better terms to use. And as Geezy said, the trips to the bathroom get back closer to normal, but it will your new normal, slightly smaller and a couple three days in between. Basically, on the Standard American Diet if you put ingest XXXXX you will use XX for normal bodily function, XX will make its way down the tract and be your next dump and the last X will hang around until the next batch pushes it out. The SAD is nowhere near being efficient whereas carnivore is the polar opposite. Over time, your current intake of XXXXX will become XXX. Two XX's will supply your body with every thing you need (fats and proteins) and the last X will make its way down and empty tract until you go to the bathroom. You don't eat as much, and what you do eat is completely nutrient dense, so the overwhelming majority is used and only a small portion becomes waste. The volume and length of time in between comes from the efficiency carnivore provides. Best of luck. Scott

No big plans. I'm working OT today and tomorrow. I'm off Sunday thru Wednesday. Probably do a prime rib roast. More of a play it by ear than an actual plan. LOL Scott

I like this 'style' of video. I think flaky is most of the time authentic. There is nothing wrong with a well edited, fact-filled video but that feels like they are reading from Q-cards. Mostly I am watching for the jist of the video and secondly, I especially like the ones that don't try sell me something, or stop mid-sentence to ask me to click down below. I may have some attention deficit issues because I quickly lose interest when it jumps off topic. Scott

Another book is "Eat Bacon, Don't Jog". I forget the author's name but it is on ebay for around $5. Can't really beat it at that price. Great post by Geezy. He may need to write his own book. I will chime in on one of the topics. I am not sure which diet would be best or most optimal within the realm of carnivore. The individual needs of the person will make that decision but I would venture a guess to say anything remotely close to carnivore will be better than the SAD. I saw a pyramid the other day that indicated I am a Tier 1 carnivore as all I eat is meats, salt and water. I do eat most any meats but I have found the Lion Diet suits me best. Just red meat/beef, salt and water. And as Dr, Chaffee mentions I am not using near the amount of salt I was five or six months ago. Now it is an occasional salt to taste and I do just fine. My next venture will be to go straight red meats for, hopefully a month, then into my 72 or 96 hour fast and then come out of it with straight red meat for a month or so. Off topic about the book. My apologies. But I am choosing the carnivore diet I think will best drive the healing for me around my immunoglobulin numbers (auto-immune disease). Scott

That's nothing, back when I was a kid........................ Ouch!. Good luck with the shower. Blood, sweat and tears is just a saying. People do not really mean it. Scott

Congrats. Welcome back. LOL Not that you were ever on the 'outside' but I am happy for you and your 'return'. Good luck and keep it rolling. Scott

Yeah, that sounds like fun. Live or pre-recorded, either/or. It has been a really successful first year. Like mentioned in the post above, I think I have intentionally and unintentionally made the mistakes a lot of people make diving in head first. I sort of proofed the effects of the diet on myself, maybe by blind luck, or maybe by I was eating a such a dumpster diet that anything remotely close to carnivore was going to be really good for me. LOL But yes. I would be interested. I appreciate the 'availability' of the meeting last night. We often talk about not being able to talk to people about how we eat due to their reactions and aversions, but at the same time sometimes I feel obligated to at least put it out there. I shouldn't be hogging all this 'good' just for me. LOL Thanks for help spreading the word. Scott

For the most part it is a variety of meats. My wife does not do carnivore so I eat what she eats meat-wise most of the time. So it is a variety of meats from beef to chicken to pork to fish and a lot of eggs. On several stretches I have solely red meats and I feel like I do better on beef as the primary coupled with eggs and butter. This week my wife is out of town so I had rib eyes on Saturday and Sunday with three or four fried eggs. Last night it was a pound of ground beef (80/20, as it seems 73/27 is not all that popular anymore in our area) browned with four eggs and just a little bit of cheddar cheese. I will have bacon and eggs later this morning and tonight it will be a chuck roast steak. Although I have had a ton of success as I look back I don't think I was all that smart with my approach. I have a lot of room for improvement. In the very beginning I didn't get the fat content nor the electrolyte/salt content correct. As soon as I worked that out I tried to outsmart carnivore by eating leaner cuts of meat, one they were cheaper and two, I thought I could lose more weight without as much fat. Soon after I made the adjustment to a higher fat moderate protein intake the results in the gym/from the gym started to show and I made another mistake. I concentrated on hitting a protein target for muscle growth and in that pursuit the fat content faded. One I was not thinking, and two it was really hard to eat the sheer volume of 200 grams of protein. I gained weight. Once again, I found that the lack of fat in my daily diet was more important than the protein, not slighting protein and its importance, but they both have a job to do and one can't be successful without the other. Sort of babbling on. But I eat all of the meats and my wife plays a big part in which ones each night. I prefer beef but that does not totally work in our situation. We grill most every night of the week so a lot of times I do a brisket or a pork butt or beef tenderloin I will eat the same thing several days in a row. My first year has been some prime examples of what not to do. LOL Scott

Home after all day in the hospital. Went easy. A pound of hamburger, four eggs and couple stabs of butter. Scott

I thought it was liver that caused gout?...... Myths and folklore have become quite entertaining over the past year on carnivore. A friend of mine at work has kidney stones somewhat regularly. His doctor told him it was the soft drinks/sweet teas (sugars). I can't say that is not true but I can say I was drinking 4-6 sometimes 8 20oz Mountain Dews a day, plus a couple glasses of Pepsi or sweet tea at night. I have never had a kidney stone. I am not much on liver, beef, chicken or pork, but I do buy it for the dogs on occasion. Three-four five times I have been at the counter with a couple-three packs and there will be an older lady telling me to be careful, liver causes the gout. Again, never had gout and don't like liver, so maybe it is so, maybe it is not. As of late I'm choosing not to dismiss the 'medicinal folklore' though, because it seems in a lot of cases we have outsmarted ourselves in current times. Scott

Welcome. And congrats on your choices. I try not to say vague or 'carnivore like' things as I am learning as well, (just over a year) and I think my biggest lesson thus far is that we are all individuals. My plan may not be your plan, nor vice-versa. I will speak only from my personal experience. This morning marks -95lbs since May 8th of last year, just a little over a year. I had stalls along the way and as well as weight swings. I found out for me that nothing put the breaks on a fall and triggered the stall like a couple glasses of milk. I could be in a 3-4-5-6lb fall over several days and a glass of milk on a couple nights and it slammed the breaks on the fall. That stoppage then became a stall. When the weight loss was my primary goal milk was no good for me. I have talked to others that have had similar experiences and it is probably that way for a lot of people. At the time my WHY CARNIVORE? was all about the weight loss so I had to leave the dairy to continue with the falls and avoid the stalls. You mentioned struggling with the protein/fat ratio. First change your approach. Look at it as a fat to protein ration because actually serves us better. Search this forum and Bob has a great video in counting fat and protein grams/calories. In the beginning I didn't count and sort of found some things out the hard way. Protein higher than fat usually led me to constipation, upping the fat content helped me stay regular. There were times when I probably did too much fat and got sort of loose, well, way loose. But for me, fat is the driver. I shop cheap and my wife does not do carnivore. Sometimes our dinners are cuts of meat that are lean and certainly not enough fat for me. I will add butter, sometimes using butter as 'side dish'. LOL I add the butter or tallow when we eat her choices and if those lean cuts are super cheap I save a couple dollars. That keeps my fat content up. Sometimes the stalls are due to meal timing as much as what you are eating. When we wake up our insulin in normally higher than our daily average. The 'dawn effect'. So if we eat early in the morning the insulin is up and we just sort off add to it and when the insulin is up losing weight is somewhat difficult. If I wake up, go about my normal day and my first meal is late in the morning or even lunch/later, my falls were more consistent. Good luck, and again, welcome. This is a good place to learn and share experiences. Scott

I can listen to him talk all day. I have watched a ton of his videos from way back. A really interesting character. Scott

I agree with Geezy, Dr. Baker's book is a great resource. Another good book is Eat Bacon, Don't Jog. I am not sure of the author but it is on ebay for $5. It is a really good read. The formatting is almost more conversation like than book reading. Both are good examples. I have an autoimmune disease as well, and carnivore has worked wonders for me. And welcome. Hopefully you can find what you need for a smooth transition. Scott

Agreed with all. But the rectangle sheet pizzas were awesome. I came off the farm (my parents were not owners but workers) and what we ate normally came off the farm. Maybe once a month we ate out. the grandkids would volunteer for a battle to the death to go with my grandma to the grocery store on Saturday morning. She would buy us a hotdog, fries and a 6 1/2 ounce small coke. The 'square' pizza was a real treat when I was in school. Healthy? Nope. But did I look forward to them? Absolutely. I graduated on '87 and still remember Thursday was pizza day. Scott

Nice video. Maybe we aren't the ones eating an 'extreme' diet. Our diet is thousands of years old. The current diets are four or five decades. At 55, I'm older than the 'way of eating' for most people. It was put into perspective very well. Scott

Around minute 40 the conversation about skin tags..... I have had skin tags for as long as I remember. I had a couple cut off some years back. I just never gave them much thought. This afternoon I had another "whoo-da thunk it" moment with carnivore. I don't have any skin tags at all. There were several in my arm pit and one or two at the base of my neck. I had no idea they were gone and would have never noticed it (I think) until the video. The carnivore way of eating continues to amaze. Scott

I think I posted this on another thread but I really like the format. It moves from subject to subject almost like a conversation. Well worth the $5 I paid. Scott

The way of eating has done wonders for me. I'm sold for that alone. Scott

Nice video. Actually enjoyed the first hour of work. LOL Scott

It is funny to me that is how much of us think. Every study I read just as I get into the content, as well as the intent, I start thinking about which side of the fence funded the study. And in turn, if the study "supports" the "funders" it sort of loses a little bit of its luster. If it goes against the grain a bit I think 'maybe a little unbiased honesty?". Scott

That Monday could be a celebratory day as well. It might just be my last infusion. I have not had symptoms nor taken the pain and inflammation medicines since June of last year. My blood work says I am just about normal (maybe metabolically and not so much mentally, but I'm taking what I can get). There may be something to this carnivore thing after all. LOL And the only draw back to participating next Monday night is I will be off the clock. This past Monday I was getting paid to hang out and watch youtube. There are always trade-offs. Again, great debut. Nice work. Scott