Scott F.

Yep, I had some benefits within the first few days and first few weeks. So it was a bit easier to keep going. My point was all my benefits were physical and easily seen. The one thing I have read about is the mental clarity and I have not seen that at all, other than when I wake up. But I'm sleeping better as well. I would think the mental type benefits would take longer and maybe even need to be coupled with other medical stuff. As I read about anything it is a huge turn-off for me when this one thing is the 'end all-be all, miracle cure'. If you take this one pill you will have big muscles, a flat stomach, a longer wee-wee that is as big around as a soup can by tomorrow morning. I doubt there is no one thing that fixes everything. Hopefully you find some benefits soon and can stick it out for a stretch to see if it works for you. I'm a 60 days. I might wake up tomorrow and decide I have travelled as far down this road as I wanted and move on.....but going in I didn't have miracle cures in mind. Best of luck and hope you find your plan.

I was fat when I started on May 8th and have lost 40lbs but still fat. The physical change can be fairly evident from the beginning. My first big surprise was that having NMO/Devic's (just about like MS) I have taken some pain medication and somewhat regular anti-inflammatory medicine. As I was reading about the anti-inflammatory effects of the diet I remembered I hadn't taken my medicine that week nor did I need it. The following week the same. Now it has been 6+ weeks without medication. I didn't follow directions very well (actually didn't bother to find out) and I missed with the electrolytes early on and felt sort of run down but not completely dragging, but slow. Once I adjusted the electrolyte/salt intake my energy level is far better than before May 8th. The above three are physical and can be seen and felt. For me, I have not found the 'brain clearing/super focused' clarity I have read about. For me that is one in the same as before. The closest thing is that I sleep better now and when I wake up I wake up and am ready to go. I don't have the slow-roll out of bed and drag to the start of the day. Not being a medical professional, actually nowhere near, I would say to give it some time. Best of luck. Scott

I'm only 60 days into the diet and less than that on this forum. Thus far I have enjoyed the content and people tremendously. For me it has been a great exchange of information. Mostly because everyone is different and can get different results from doing the same thing and then seem to merge on the same path later. For the most part I have "t-totalled" the carnivore approach but have had a couple slips. And so far they haven't kicked me off the board for a dab oh Heinz 57. LOL Scott

Similar story. My Pops was a heavy smoker and a drinker as well. He had lung issues and had almost an entire lung removed. Within months of rehab and recovery he started back smoking. Some years later the lower left lobe was removed from the other lung and put him on oxygen. He quit drinking but kept smoking. I never quite got the thought process there, but the addiction (any addiction) is real. Small world. Scott

Boring day. Cooked up a mixed pan of chicken, shrimp and sausages and finished it off with three boiled eggs. I can be very boring with my meals, and especially when I am at work. I'm looking for basic sustenance and to push a turd (pardon the French). Burgers do look good. And bacon is the best. My Pops use to say if you put three slices of bacon on a cardboard sandwich.....someone would ask for another. LOL Scott

@Geezy. Yep. Sometimes it is the pat on the back that gets us going and other times it is the kick in the pants. And even sometimes it is the severity of the kick in the pants. I am sure 'being close to the other side' is a tremendous motivator. I'm still on the Carnivore diet, close to 60 days in now, and in time I am thinking it becomes the Carnivore Lifestyle. Time will tell. Although I am not having any types of cravings now, there was a time when I would just about kill a 'mofo' for a good piece of cheesecake. If hers is, indeed, the best ever, I would kill multiple 'mofos'. Just saying. Back to reality, I have been actually hungry only twice since May 8th. No cravings even as I walk by the Little Debbie cake aisle (they were the gospel for a lot of years). For me, and this is just me, the not being hungry makes it very easy for me to continue. I am not calorie counter and if the 'two pieces of lettuce and a half a carrot' leave me hungry, then I eat. Those type diets never worked for me. This one allows me to go stretches without eating or snacking and the meal-to-meal effects do not push me off the wagon. Sort of babbled/hi-jacked the thread. My apologies. Scott

This was a youtube video not an actual movie. The gist was the heating of plastics to serve food. The 'microwave and tupper-ware' were examples/analogies/spoof he was using. He was listing the toxins released and their ill-effects to testosterone as well as the immune system. It may have been removed because I can't seem to find it. Scott

I'm looking for this video I watched on youtube but can't find it. It basically says the end of 'man' started with the invention of Tupper Ware and the Microwave. It was about the toxins that are released from plastics when heated. This video showed studies of the toxins having an adverse effect on male testosterone, thus the 'end of man'. Really interesting. Scott

I hit a lull in energy around the second week (maybe 55 days in now). As said before, there are any number of things that factor, from past eating habits/lifestyle all the way to final adjustment/change in lifestyle. Everyone is different. I would suggest adjusting your electrolytes. I didn't read the directions and just jumped right in the carnivore fire. I tried some of the pre-made packets such as LMNT. I'm sure they worked but I didn't like the taste. I ended up making a homemade 'electrolyte mix' (youtube/google) and it made my drinks taste way salty. I then switched to using that same mix as my "salt" when seasoning my food. A couple days after I started adding the 'salt' my energy level picked up and since has been exceeding prior to starting the diet. I was on the 'trash and dumpster diet' for a long time. Since it is only 55 or so days, I am still calling in the carnivore diet and at some point, it will morph into a lifestyle. The process takes time, and I would also suggest 'just give it some time' as my results are not necessarily your results and vice-versa. Good luck. Scott

Nope didn't eat the onions but I am sure it was cooked in one of the cheaper seed/vegetable oils. I'm sure there was some language barrier stuff mixed in as well. I hadn't had spices (other than salt and pepper) in awhile so I was expecting an explosion soon after. It didn't seem to bother me at all. I'm rolling with 'no harm/no foul' on this one. However, I did tag on an extra mile this morning as an offering up...... Hope all have a great day and a Super Hoilday weekend. Scott

So today might be considered a cheat day. Maybe/Maybe not. My God-son just turned 16 and since he was a young guy his birthday has been at his favorite Mexican restaurant. I felt like I asked all the right questions and thought I ordered this meat platter the best way for me. It showed up and it was amazing. It tasted great and as I moved some of it around I thought I tasted onion and then the meat was piled on top of a pile of fried onions. I had started eating, was not going to return it and for sure was not going to waste it. I think I will tack on a mile tomorrow morning. LOL Scott

Where is the hike? I'm brand new to the diet so I am not sire after less than 2 months I could call it a lifestyle. But, I do feel like I am heading in that direction. The benefits keep piling up for me as well. Enjoy the benefits of others as well. Scott

Welcome Back is an age identifier. Scott

Again, I didn't read any of the instructions. LOL I have somewhat adjusted to the carnivore diet (and hopefully this time next year it will be a lifestyle) and have found I am not hungry eating once per day. I just did a 48 hour fast and did not have any hunger or craving issues at all. I drank only water with a cheap store brand mixer (no sugar just a tad of sodium). I think I could have done another 12, maybe 24. I felt good and energetic on nightshift all thru the 48 hours. Weird as there has been a lot of days I was eating something every 48 minutes much less 48 hours. I am thinking the water, or the drinking curbs a lot of hunger/craving issues. And then I imagine at times there is some will power involved to get it done and then at the same time maybe the end goal focus helps. Reading the instructions is starting to become both interesting and exciting. Scott

All brand new to me so I guess "my definitions" morph at times. So far so good with making the carnivore diet fit my lifestyle vs. me making a bunch of changes, especially since being a rotating shift worker is like living on another planet anyway. After 30+ years (36 including military time) of shift type work I no longer have normal days like Monday or Thursday, weekends or week days, nor do I have holidays such as July 4th, Christmas Day or New Year's Eve. After all these years all I see on a calendar is dayshift, nightshift and off. Just those three days over and over. I could be intermittent on nightshift really easy because a big chunk of the day is sleeping and to and from work. 48 hours over nightshift was way easier than I thought. I really think another 12-24 would have been a snap. I think the one meal a day (OMAD) approach is the intermittent part and then stretched out past 24 is fasting. This week, those are "my definitions". LOL They may change next week. S

From my own experience I can understand. Once you have been really sick and then there is relief from a for of treatment it is hard to 'change' in fear of what "can't get any worse" actually can get worse. I sort of understand. If you had approached me in early May and said, "If you eat rib eyes and chuck steaks your auto-immune issues will go away". I probably would have replied, "You are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey". Again, I can see where there is some doubt as well as the fear of 'getting worse' There is a point where a person with a sickness will try anything all the way to the point of grasping at straws/hoping against hope. I guess I get the reservations. For me, I had no idea the carnivore diet was going to be anything more than a weight loss diet that actually fit me, how I eat and my shiftwork lifestyle. The weight was peeling off really fast so in the beginning it was a total success. Then I opened the box and read some of the instructions. And to come full circle I have a friend whose wife has MS. I went from being a nay-sayer to feeding her a ton of information around the carnivore diet. Full circle in less than two months. Scott

I like the graphic as well. I'm less than 2 months in on the carnivore diet. I just did my first 48 hour fast. It was much easier than I thought. At 48 hours I had yet to be hungry. That is really weird. I ate maybe a pound of pulled pork last night and had some left but simply felt full. I ate some colby jack cheese as well. I am a 12 hour rotating shift worker. There are not many positives to this work schedule but I think I have found it may be easier to fast during my stretch of nightshifts. Even before carnivore I see stretches of dayshifts where I don't take or make the time to eat. Night shift not quite as bad, but close. I think I am going to start fasting on night shift. I can do a 36-48 hour fast a couple three time per month. I'm not sure if that puts a little more intermittent in intermittent fasting. I don't know how regular the fasting needs to be as I would fast about two weeks apart and wonder would I need to do it again on the following two weeks when I am on days and off? Scott

Yep. It is a completely different and new experience for me. I'm getting up at about the 40 or so hour mark and not hungry again today. It is sort of weird to say I have not eaten in 40 hours but have yet to feel hungry. Craziness. Who'd a thunk it? Scott

Nothing so far. I'm about 30 hours deep in a 48 hour fast. So far so good. My past thinking process says I should be starving by now. Amazingly, not even hungry nor any type of cravings. I'm going to try to make 48, call it as an accomplishment and then maybe stretch it a bit the next time. Scott

Spot on. Scott

@Geezy I'm still in the 'who woulda thunk it?' phase. As said, the weight loss has been huge but just from changing the way I eat I have not gone to the medicine cabinet. Being a doubter by nature there is still a part of me waiting for the proverbial hammer to drop. I had a complete blood work up in early May just as I started. I had a short scan set up a couple weeks ago but work and time got in the way. I moved it out to early August. This will give me a before and after with app. 90 days going carnivore. I will post results and then I am due an infusion in November that carries another complete work up for another 90-day comparison. Coming out of the service in the early 90's I chose a trash diet and a trash lifestyle. I had seven prescriptions in all that time. I was very lucky maybe even dodged a few health bullets along the way. Maybe the dumbest thought I had or said is when I got the actual diagnosis. The doctor said NMO and I said, "Not me, I'm only 49". The reality sort of sat in as we left the hospital and I felt really old. I think my rebound was that during my first infusions in the cancer center I saw so many people with a much tougher row to hoe than me, especially the young people. There is a certain perspective and a shift in appreciation when walking down that hallway. With all that, I am really excited to see if there are notable medical changes. I've lost some weight, ditched some pills and fell as well as I have in a really long time. I am a 12-hour rotating shift worker so energy can be at a premium. The past couple of months have been really different. So much so, tonight I'm 24 hours deep in my first 48 hour fast. So far so good. Scott

Looking this up now. Scott

NMOSD is similar to Multiple Sclerosis but with the auto-immune response can be on the optic nerve. Basically, the immune system "thinks' it is attacking and removing something that does not belong, but the attack is on good/healthy tissue. The attack creates lesions on the myelin (the sheath that covers the nerves) and this attack opens the sheath and at times can expose the nerve. Both NMO and MS symptoms are all over the place and can make diagnosis really hard. It is more of a process of elimination approach to finding the diagnosis (and that sucks). In the summer of 2018, I started with extreme burning sensations on my right thigh. Like if you were to pass a cutting torch across your skin. Then it moved to my left arm and my back. First diagnosis was Shingles without the blistering and rashes. The I started to have what felt like cramps behind my eyes. Then one day loss of motor skills in my left arm which sent me straight into 'stroke protocol'. Then finally on Labor Day morning I woke up and could not see. Everything was the same color as your monitor when you turn it off. Not jet black but just about. By the time I got to the hospital most of the vision had returned. The left arm was sort of hanging around so back into stroke protocol again. Since my symptoms were hit and miss the doctors were sort of stumped. I was mostly scared but this once I was made enough to punch someone. I'm lying there, blurry eyed, left arm not working, my thigh on fire and (pardon the description) the only time I knew I was pissing or pooping was when it hit my ankles. And since the issues were coming and going and the doctor may or may not be present ...I had a doctor basically tell me, "I think you are here for pain pills, do you have a problem?". In both our best interests it was a good thing I was not able to stand up. Luckily, I landed with my current Neurologist, and he ordered a couple test followed by a spinal tap. From there he got me on a 6-hour infusion two times per year. Other than a few minors I have been pretty much healthy since. The carnivore diet has eased the inflammation and the associated pain, and I have not taken any pain medicine since mid-May. The weight loss is a lot like the bonus plan. I have started reading where there are a number of NMOSD and MS patients who have found they no longer require their infusions/medications while on the carnivore diet. it is somewhat exciting and hopeful. It is not that bad of an experience, but the first one usually cost me around $3500 out of pocket but fortunately the second one is "on the house". As far as the doctor who thought I was looking for pills. I photo'ed my medical record. At the time I was 49 years old. I had 7 prescriptions from the time I was 18-49. I wanted to draw a big middle finger, but my wife would not allow it. And to add a funny, as I like to do that, imagine...in the shower, legs collapse, no movement in your left arm and you wind up laying on your good arm. You re yelling for your wife but she is on the other end of the house and can't hear you over the water. With all the negative potential while lying crumpled in the shower the only thing I could think of was "this f'ng hot water is going to run out soon". Maybe it was the lesions on the brain or maybe I just think crazy shit. Don't know. Excited to move forward with the benefits of the carnivore diet. Scott

I agree. I have only actually been hungry twice thus far and have yet to have any real cravings. Most of the meats I use are fairly high in fat content. Both times I felt hungry was when I had pork chops the night before. They were trimmed more than I would like (carnivore or not) and were really lean. The next time I had them I cut them up in a bowl and melted butter on top. The following day I was not hungry after the pork. Might just be coincidence. Scott

There are some videos on centered a lady doing meat runs at Sam's and Costco. She pointed out there were some pre-made items in their freezer section that were good choices for those days when there just isn't enough time to get everything done. I looked but all I saw was stuff that was pre-packaged with sauces and such. Mostly I pre-make what I will eat when working. I went to the gym this morning followed by a 4-mile walk. Standing in the grocery store I remembered I hadn't done anything by being on nightshift. I bought a six pack of the pre-made hardboiled eggs. They hit the spot. I'm sure there are some pre-made stuff out there, but I pinch pennies by buying as well as cooking in bulk (centered around 12 hour shift work). Scott