Scott F.

I'm straight water now. I used the flavor packets to get going in carnivore as I was never a big water drinker. From there I tried to add salt but it tasted some sort of bad to me. I could not do it. It was easier to eat a pinch or two of salt and chase it with some water and then go about my way. Now I just drink water. We have a filtered machine at work and I have well water at the house. Those are pretty much my two sources. Sort of leads off topic but I don't use near as much salt as I did early in the journey. I really like salt on my eggs so I get it there daily, to every other day but seldom use it on other foods. Funny thing also, don't know really when or why, but I am not much on pepper anymore. Salt and pepper was a staple on most anything I ate. Now it mostly just used to get food ready for the grill. Another part of the journey I suppose. Scott

I think most can attest it is actually cheaper. But I do admit with the price of most meats and even eggs for a stretch, it sounds like it would be much higher. I guess form the outside looking in it looks like we spend our normal amount for groceries like always, then buy a bunch of meat on top of that to eat carnivore. In reality, the meat is replacing a lot of the really expensive stuff we no longer eat. It is a hard ticket to sell to most. Scott

Same old, same old. 16oz ribeye withe four fried eggs. I probably can count the slices of butter I ate while cooking as well. As of late this has become my nightshift staple. Scott

I'm not a doctor, nor do I have medical training, nor do I have a medical condition anywhere similar to yours. My post will be with a much broader stroke not a 'this is what you need to do' but more of 'what I think I would do'. I will also lead in with all medicine is not bad and all doctors are not bad. The entire purpose of medicine is to treat a symptom. The entire purpose of the medical system is to treat. There is nothing wrong to take a medicine to alleviate a symptom.....as you continue to pursue the cure. Medicine was never meant to be a lifelong endeavor. I have/had an auto-immune disease that would have been/might be a big part of my ultimate demise. With no medical evidence nor medical background I believe the 'straw that broke the camel's back' was the statin I was prescribed. And with that said, the 50 plus years of pummeling my body was the primary factor. I'm 55 now and in 2018 I had four prescriptions filled in my entire adult life. Even before pre-carnivore I was not a 'go to the doctor-take the medicine' kind of person. I'm definitely not a statin fan, and my doctor has offered up non-statin type alternatives, but I don't feel like my cholesterol is near a point I need to start a short term nor a long-term daily pill. Sometimes there are medical conditions that need to be addressed today, and doctors and medicine can help address the 'today' decisions. I have learned to be the biggest fan of carnivore as it has changed my life for the better. I have read and learned more about the body, my body, in the last 13 months than I had in the previous fifty plus years. I continue learn thru the aspect of carnivore and one of the first thing every carnivore question can be answered with is that this way of eating takes time to do the healing. In a lot of cases there is no time. Just like most anything in life, the combinations work better than the singulars. Being open minded does not stop at our own personal preferences nor does it stop at our personal choices. With that broad stroke, I don't see an issue with using a medicine as a temporary adjustment while using this way of eating as a long-term solution. And with that said, most everyone gets the choice of the sword upon which they fall. I wish you the best with your health. Thoughts and prayers. Scott

Someone had a pretty good plan. It has worked amazingly well. Scott

Anytime. I actually enjoy other people's story more so than I put a lot of faith in some huge study. I guess your story, and similar stories, seem real whereas a lot of the big studies feel like they lead toward the direction of the funding. I am sure I am wrong a lot of the times on that, but a personal story seems to carry more weight with me. Nice video. Since I am over 55 now I can start my story out with, "the son of a sharecropper, walked to school barefoot, uphill, in the snow.....both ways...... Good job. Look forward to more. Scott

Nice work. Our journey has some similarities. Heavy early as a kid. I did do a lean stint thru the military years but "blossomed" soon after. I made all the bad eating decisions along the way. I didn't totally yo-yo diet a lot but I did here and there. Weight loss was easy for me whenever I tried but soon as the notion past i would ballon to even bigger than before. Congrats on your journey and nice video? Does that channel have a schedule? I'd like to log on and check it out via youtube? I'm on the "kiltz video" kick right now. Interested. Scott

Do not do this at home. I air fried about 6 pounds of beef fat/suet to make a snack bag. This is a horrible idea. It made a pint or more of tallow which is good. The air fried fat tasted absolutely amazing. I was really impressed. The drawback is that regardless the size of the bag it turns out these are single serving portions. I just about had to hide them from myself. LOL Really easy process. Scott

Congrats on the successes. When I adjusted the fat content down (twice, once on purpose as i thought I was smarter than the system and once, I didn't totally recognize I sacrificed fat to hit a gram of protein per pound of body weight target) I gained weight. The first time I was six or so months deep and was using leaner cuts of meat. I didn't think I was missing the fat mark by a bunch but turns out I was actually on a higher protein to moderate fat (moderate at best). The weight fall turned to what I called a 'stall' but the stall started to add a few pounds. At that point success was being determined by having to cinch up my work belt. On the higher protein lesser fat combination, I had to go the opposite direction and let a notch out. Self-inflicted but still somewhat disheartening. The second time I was so intent on hitting a total protein I used some leans to get as much protein in as I could. I had morphed into a OMAD person, was seldom hungry and really struggled to get 200g of protein in a day. As I worked my way up to the protein target the fat content sort of got left out. I was not really keeping up with the weight as a marker but I did notice a notch in the belt and I had gained 8-9 pounds in pretty much no time. I think I am one of those who the higher fat content is a must, maybe even a bit higher than what people would call high fat/moderate protein. Scott

Nice. Another item for 'night shift'. LOL I will check it out tonight. Scott

Me too. I like to see the articles that show what they have done way more than what they plan to do. When I see 'this is what we are going to do' instantly feels like an empty promise but 'we want you to keep shopping here'. Hopefully they lead some other major chains/distributors to do the same. Scott

This is a very sensible approach to easing into carnivore or expanding carnivore toward keto or maybe the keto-vore hybrid approach. I think it could work going in either direction. The guy in the gym who eats sweet potatoes on Thursday nights before his weekly heavy day uses that approach. As far as the gym aspect goes that approach is working extremely well for him. I lifted alongside him week before last and I will leave it at, "I got work to do". To beat the proverbial dead horse, I went into carnivore as a weight loss hack with zero expectations for any health-related improvements unless they stemmed directly from the weight loss. In 6-7 weeks of carnivore I went off semi-daily medicine for pain and inflammation. For me, carnivore was a weight loss hack that happened to have a bonus plan. With that said, I don't see me venturing back toward the carbs and sugars. If I did, and I doubt I do, it would be similar to what I am seeing work/see working for my buddy in the gym. I'm the pot calling the kettle black, as I would not advise a drastic change in diet going into carnivore nor coming out. I'd ease in or ease out, depending on your direction. babbling, but I wonder about the adjustment period from going carnivore to basically straight sugar, all of a sudden? I ask this because I bought a vanilla milkshake type drink once because the cap was blue and I didn't have my glasses. I drink milk on occasion so I don't think the dairy part of the drink had much effect, but the sugar gave me a cleaning out like none other. It was all the descriptive words like powerful, violent, over the fence and for distance, all of the above. How was your first days on the switch? Scott

There are some flavor packets that advertise no sugar/no carbs. I was never big on drinking water And I used the packets to help with water. Food Lion lemonade worked for me. I met a guy who drinks unsweetened tea o the regular but I can’t see the point of tea without sugar. Almost in-American.

Even once people who ate red meat walked around with as much as 14-15 pounds of red meat in their digestive tract as the body can't effectively digest red meat. I thought that was a crock way back when. Couple that with an ounce of carnivore based knowledge and it becomes laughable. Scott

Maybe the difference is a person's end goal, maybe make a mission statement to kick the diet off to which ever path the person chooses. "I want to step on the scale and see a lesser number over the next 90-120 days". "My goal is to lose X amount of pounds" With these two statements probably 99% of all diets are effective. These statements will lead to the 'calories and calories out' conversation and before the definition of calories pops up, we can change it to 'total mass in and total mass out'. This approach makes all diets really close to 100% effective. Next mission statement would be, "I would like to lose X number of pounds and improve my metabolic health at the same time". This wipes out a really large chunk of most diets. They are effective but the metabolic health, which is probably not up to snuff in the first place, will take a further hit as the weight goal is approached or attained'. I can see this approach for someone really big who needs to drop X number of pounds to be able to go under a knee or hip replacement, or similar surgeries. Getting the weight down can be by any means necessary. The plan would be weight comes down, surgery takes place, mobility is returned and then a better meal plan can be coupled with mobility for a healthier life. I can see this being an option for a lot of people. Then maybe the last mission statement would be "I want to improve my metabolic health, and in time drop some weight, and at the same time develop a sustainable long-term way of eating". This narrows the field. And if I added "without the required need of daily supplementation" we get down to the animal-based versions of carnivore and a minimal number of the keto versions with a carb/sugar level fairly low. Over the past three to four months, I have both gained and lost weight on a strict carnivore diet purely based on the mass I am eating, the timing in which I eat even coupled with several 96-hour water fasts. Last week I laid off the eating to hit the protein target, pretty much ate when I was hungry (which turned into OMD, if that) and dropped from 219 to 212 in 7 days. As always, there is some daily fluctuation and four pretty good days in the gym. I also walked a couple days 3.5 miles with at least 100 pushups along the walk. The weeks before that with the same out-put, I crammed 200 grams of protein per day in via the same strict carnivore diet, and I gained 8-9 pounds. I am the only control subject in my study (LOL) but my approach 'will both lose and gain weight dependent on food intake', it has been proven to improve my metabolic health (numerous blood tests from BP, to glucose, to lipid panel, to kidney function, to immunoglobulin/autoimmune response) and I have shown it is completely sustainable for me over time. 100% of all diets will work and 100% of all diets will fail. Diet success is pounds in the short-term, but that success is all too often short-lived. Diets that evolve into sustainable lifestyles is where the true successes land. And with that said, I can see the need and the point of 'losing weight' by any means necessary. Scott

Thoughts and prayers. Scott

It caught me off guard as I drove into work this morning. Of all things, an eating disorder. Scott

I think most of the negativity comes from the name more so than the concept. If it were renamed 'fruit only' diet it would have been better received. When the title is SUGAR DIET and the first images are people with Mountain Dews, snack cakes and potato chips there is automatically a negative connotation. Sort of like carnivores are people eating meat without knives or utensils. We are killing animals, remove the meat by hand and eating it as the blood drips down our chin. True carnivore style. It is still sugar based but it is not like the intent, or the concept is for people to be eating a ton of sugar packets to get thru the day. Going in I looked at carnivore as nothing more than a weight loss hack. Do it for a few weeks, maybe a couple months, drop some weight and then go back to how I always ate. I stumbled upon the health benefits, and all the way to the point of calling BS when I first started watching 'carnivore health benefit videos'. I was like, "What are the odds of a ribeye replacing my pain and inflammation medicine?". I would have bet the farm against it and wound up homeless, healthy, but homeless the same. Scott

Although I am a 'nay-sayer' at heart as I don't believe a lot of stuff til I experience it personally. And along those lines I am not much of a conspiracy theorist when it comes to a lot of the things that swirl in and around carnivore. I am sure Big Pharma and Big Food and Big Tech are not fans of anything that cuts into their revenue stream, and I am sure carnivore would do that over time. Maybe, maybe not. On the radio this morning there was a headline about 'eating disorders' that were predominantly teen girls for a lot of years has now increased amongst teenage boys and into, with a large increase in both men and women in their 30's to 40's. "many Nutritionists as now listing carnivore, ketogenic and other extreme diets as eating disorders". The last statement sort of caught me off guard as I was driving into work. I am guessing that is a push from one of the Big three? Scott

Interesting. Interested. I have higher energy now on carnivore day to day. I have an amazing amount of energy the last day of a 96 hour water fast and it lasts for another couple-three days afterwards. Good luck and interested in your progress. Scott

Thoughts and prayers. Scott

Good luck with what works for you. I'm interested in your progress. Before carnivore when I was eating the dumpster type diet if I ate a lot of dessert coupled with the many Moutain Dews for the day with a couple big snack cakes, all that sugar, I crashed mid-afternoon. Sugar rush followed by the crash. Have you experienced a crash of sorts? Energy level drop offs at certain times of the day? Scott

Followed up on an idea from geezy. I put roast on the smoker this morning. When it was within an hour or so from being ready I dropped it in the crock pot for a couple three hours on low. Turned out really nice. Scott

I pulled my 72K5 out yesterday as the recent rains has kept it stuck in the shop. I rinsed it off and drove it around for a bit. I have to change one more light housing today or tomorrow and I will be ready. This will be my first trip to this event. I don't so much on social media (this is about as far out into the abyss as I wade). I guess it popped up on my son's phone and it is just a few minutes from here. I actually pass it on the way to work. The rain is threatening as of today but the chances of showers have lessened each day this week. Looking forward to it. Scott

Cars & Carnivores Street Festival - Rotary Club of Wake Forest This event is this weekend about forty minutes from here. Going to drag out my 72K5 and check out the cars and the meat vendors. Should be a pretty good time. Scott