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It’s not so weird as it is sad that we have doctors and medical professionals preaching to us about things they know nothing about. When I learned that doctors don’t actually receive any training in nutrition and how it works on the human physiology it was a real eye opener. I take their criticism about my diet with a whole new perspective. After three years of studying nutrition I believe I know more about the subject than 90% of the doctors out there. As far as the studies go I heard a doctor say that they don’t really read the studies. They look at the title page and then look at the conclusions but never actually read the studies themselves. We can get a better education from the Google School of Medicine these days that from any medical university when it comes to diet and nutrition.

Change happens when the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of change.

I find that to be interesting. What marks the difference between either foods since they are both grain based? One processed and the other isn’t? Or is it another ingredient in the making of the bread and not just the grain? It’s not genes that cause weight gain but hormones. Insulin resistance. Glad to see that science is finally starting to catch up with what us uneducated people already know. Give it another 100 years and they might actually learn the complete truth.

Ahh but will anyone really listen?

I have been learning in my spiritual life that to denigrate someone who is made in the image of God is the same as denigrating God Himself so I’ll refrain from calling this, so called, doctor by any names other that ignorant. Which he is. He has obviously never studied the carnivore diet or ever experienced anyone who has been a long term carnivore. I noticed that he is obese and doesn’t look very healthy….i wonder why? I would love to see a debate between him and a real doctor like Dr. Ken Berry.

Last night on the livestream the subject of olive oil came up. It pays to do your research when using it.

I can relate and my son also introduced me to carnivore.

I got into an argument on quora about the MD and this guy just insisted that it was real so I asked him how long had he lived in the Mediterranean. Of course he had never been there. I let him know that I worked and lived in the Mediterranean area in Greece and Turkey and no one ate anything close to what The Mediterranean Diet proclaimed. His response was that just because I lived there it didn't mean the diet wasn’t real. Oh well, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink.

Oh man, you just gave me a great idea. When I worked in Athens Greece I did my best to try and eat my weight in gyros. They were so good with Tzatziki. So now you’ve given me the idea of smoking a roast and making a chaffel sandwich with that roast and putting Tzatziki on it. I bet it would be delicious. I’ll have to see if I can find some Tzatziki seasonings on line because I’m out of what I brought back from Greece.

Of course the comments in the video are ridiculous but that to be expected from a brainwashed and ignorant society. Most of us were right there with them at one time. We just chose to listen to reason and learn for ourselves.

Yes he is back and has really been making the rounds lately. Maybe one of these days he will show up on our livestream.

Welcome to carnivoretalk. When we first come to carnivore and reap the benefits we want to shout it from the rooftops but there comes a time when we realize that nobody cares. I used to evangelize my lifestyle but I eventually realized that it was best to just keep my mouth shut and only talk about it if I were asked. I don’t care what anyone thinks about my lifestyle because I’m doing this for me and no one else.

Welcome to carnivoretalk @judorick . We all make mistakes and they can be important in our journey because they are lessons to be learned. They teach us what we can and cannot do. Forget the mistakes but remember the lessons. Fermented vegetables and cheeses or dairy overall aren’t bad on carnivore unless they cause you to have a setback, stall or overindulge. I eat kimchi and sauerkraut occasionally for my gut microbiome and I occasionally eat a little dairy but I have to be careful with it because it can become very addictive for me. Dairy should be treated as a condiment and not a meal. One thing you’ll find about us is we don’t judge. Eat what works for you.

Yeah wouldn’t want to actually tell them to stop eating the poison that’s killing them. Let’s just reduce the dose.

Spot on.

Finding and connecting the parallels between my faith as a Christian and my journey as a carnivore. It’s been awhile since I’ve been inspired to write one of these but when I came across this during my devotion this morning it was just too good to pass up. I hope you can benefit from it. I came across this quote from Blaise Pascal who was a brilliant 17th-century French mathematician and physicist who had a dramatic Christian conversion experience and thereafter devoted much of his thought to Christianity and philosophy. “Men despise religion. They hate it and are afraid it may be true. The cure for this is first to show that religion is not contrary to reason, but worthy of reverence and respect. Next make it attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.” WOW! Does that not resonate with carnivore or what? Very profound on the Christian side of things but speaks volumes to the carnivore community as well. People don’t downplay what we do because they believe it’s wrong so much as because it might be true and requires a change in themselves that they are afraid to commit to. So when confronted with the unbelievers try to be patient and kind to them and give them a reason to wish it were true. You are the best example of that truth. Keep Calm and Carnivore On.

Yeah…gotta disagree with this part but everything else is spot on.

For those who are new or struggling with this WOE this is a great message from Dr. Tony Hampton.

This is way out of the norm for most questions we get and very complicated. I’m not that well versed with your issues but it sounds to me like you may not be a good candidate for eating carnivore. Since you don’t seem to be able to tolerate or break down fats there’s no way you can eat carnivore since this is a high fat diet. Although if you tolerate dairy you might be able to get some fat and there’s always sea food in the form of sardines, salmon, tuna or cod livers. But even at that I’m not sure you could get enough fat in your diet. In carnivore we should be getting at least 70% of our calories intake from fat and 30% from protein. Some do better on 80% fat and others do good at 60% but either way it’s still high fat. I’m sorry I don’t have a good answer for you but hopefully someone will come along that knows more.

Yeah, insurance sucks.

'they just don't make things like they use to'. LOL Yep and that is by design. It’s a greedy world we live in.

That’s great.

Good idea.

Sounds good Paul.

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