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Let’s just start out saying that those are complete lies and false studies. The Framingham study was debunked and proven long ago to be fabricated. There has never been and there never will be an RCT that PROVES that cholesterol causes CVD. The first attack identified by autopsy was in 1912, prior to hat there was little to no evidence of heart disease in America. It wasn’t until the introduction of processed foods and seed oils into our diet that started to move to the forefront of human mortality. There is no causal relationship between heart disease and saturated fats or cholesterol. Any research claiming otherwise is simply pseudoscience. Atherosclerosis is the underpinning disfunction behind most heart disease. Atherosclerotic lesioning of the endothelia cells of the vascular tree is caused by several factors. One is chronic hypertension or high blood pressure. Another is chronic inflammation of the endothelia cells beds. The third one is physical injury to those cell beds. Compare this to what it takes to create fire. You need three things, a fuel source, oxygen and heat. Remove any one of those three things and the fire cannot survive. The same can be said of atherosclerosis. You need damage to the endothelia cells, inflammation and high blood pressure. Remove any one of these and you will not have atherosclerosis. The high blood pressure seems to be the most underpinning cause of the other two. There is a misconception that hypertension is caused by too much salt but in reality it’s the inability to excrete salt that causes hypertension. Sure, the excess salt is causing it but any normal healthy person with normally functioning kidneys will excrete excess salt so if you have excess salt in your blood causing hypertension then it’s not the salt that’s the issue but instead the fact that you can’t excrete salt normally. The usual cause of the inability to excrete salt normally is hyperinsulinemia. The cause of hyperinsulinemia is eating too many carbohydrates on a daily basis. So if you want to sort out the hypotension in your life stop eating carbs. Without sufficient cholesterol you will die. All of the cells in your body are made up of cholesterol therefore cholesterol is vital for proper human function. 80% of the cholesterol in your body is made by the body so you don’t need to eat it to have it. Bart Kay Cholesterol is an essential component of the wall of every cell in our body. It makes up a surprisingly high percentage of the fat in our brain, and our brains contain a lot of fat. Cholesterol forms part of the myelin sheaths of our nerves and is essential for properly transmitting brain and nerve impulses. Cholesterol is the precursor of Vitamin D and the sex hormones testosterone and progesterone. It helps fight off bacterial infections, as well as playing other roles in the immune system. It helps heal arterial damage by participating in plaque formation. So cholesterol is nothing to be afraid of. Given that there is no evidence to show that cholesterol causes cardiovascular disease, and there is plenty of evidence to show that low cholesterol damages the body in many ways, I vote for not worrying about it. As long as your ratio of triglycerides to HDL is low enough, your cardiovascular risk is minimal. It’s worth noting that the body regulates how much cholesterol is in the blood and that cholesterol is ultimately an essential and healthy compound. It acts as a building block for vitamin D, and numerous hormones. It is an essential part of bile salt–the substance that your body uses to digest and absorb essential fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E, and vitamin K2. [10] Not only is cholesterol critical for numerous bodily functions, but many modern studies have also linked high cholesterol with lower risk for specific and all-cause mortality and lower cholesterol with increased risk for all-cause mortality. The reason the medical profession worries so much about your LDL level is that studies have shown a a very strong correlation between lowering your cholesterol by taking a statin and the annual pay bonuses of pharmaceutical company executives. (Cynical? Moi?)

Many people report improved clarity and cognitive function on carnivore as well as enhanced mood and reversal of depression. I can’t really say that I’ve experienced any of that but I have noticed a calming effect. In my past I’ve been a very volatile person and while age has settled me down some, carnivore seems to have taken me to a different level.

Nice thick cut smoked lamb chopped and a few jalapeno popper’s stuffed with brisket, cream cheese and wrapped in bacon.

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We had a bunch of family over yesterday for my MIL’s viewing. I smoked 15 one pound ribeyes. 4 sirloin steaks and 3 pounds worth of hamburgers on my new rebuilt smoker. They all fit on that monster. Today after the funeral we hosted a luncheon over a local bbq joint that we have always enjoyed. It’s the only place my wife will go for bbq outside of our own back yard. I ate half a rack of spareribs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Looking forward to watching it when I get a chance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well that’s just so ignorant on several levels. There is no way on this green earth that being carnivore for only 11 months could possibly cause a heart attack. Absolute bovine excrement. It takes a lifetime of bad eating and poor health to set up the circumstances within the body to cause a heart attack. Some people can be more susceptible to heart disease due to their dna but even then it only means that they will probably contract CVD at an earlier age. There has never, in the history of mankind, ever been a single study that proves that eating what man has always eaten from nearly the beginning of time causes CVD. Your heart attack was not caused by eating carnivore. While it could be a dna deficiency it was most likely due to the diet you have eaten all of the years preceding carnivore. If you want to lower your cholesterol it’s your business and I’ll support you in your efforts but there is no reason to do it. Every study where they tried to prove that cholesterol caused CVD ended up showing just the opposite. In fact they all showed that those with lower cholesterol experienced more all cause mortality than those with higher cholesterol. There is no correlation between high cholesterol and heart attacks. I’m not just talking out my rear here, I practice what I preach. I’ve been carnivore for over two years now. In that time I have reversed my heart issues and my cardiologist has taken me off all of my heart medications and only wants me to come in once a year for a check up now. He actually loves what I’m doing with my diet and my health.

I just bought a whole ribeye roast at 13.95 a pound and cut 15 one pound steaks and one 14 ounce steak out of that roast. That’s a pretty good savings.

No doubt about it. I’ve got a relative down here from Colorado for my MIL’s funeral and he was checking out my cattle. Larry is an old cattleman and has owned his own feed lot until he retired. He had nothing but compliments on my cows and the choices I was making. Old men I’ll listen to.

Old Men When it comes to fixing fence, riding bulls and drinking beer Give me some young buckaroo, who's kind of wet behind the ears 'Cause I'll take fire in the belly, and if he's a little green Well sometimes piss and vinegar is exactly what you need But I want old men making my whiskey I want old men singing my blues And I want old men teaching my horses 'Cause there's just some things young men can't do Like the old boys do I want some scrappy kid To have my back, in the middle of a bar room fight And a little youth to kind of help Sometimes, with the girls on Friday night When I was but a young man, I was wild and full of fire Acid trips and rocker chicks, well I'm lucky I'm alive And I want old men making my whiskey Well I want old men singing my blues And I want old men teaching my horses There're just some things young men can't do Like the old boys do Old men making my whiskey Old men singing me blues Old men educating my horses 'Cause there's just some things young men can't do Like them old boys do Corb Lund

Is that Heather Jennings?

Finished off a smoked lamb roast today. I’ve got family in town from Colorado so we are having a get together with the whole family tomorrow. I’ll be smoking 17 ribeyes (1 lb each) , four sirloins and a bunch of hamburgers.

I like them in my scrambled eggs or just as a snack heated up with a little salt.

True. If you want to know how to get something done you ask the old timer. Them youngsters only have ideas.

I guess you are talking about Dr. Berry? He listed the only three anti nutrients found in carnivore and what they do. After watching the video I remembered it from a few months ago. I guess I forgot about it because it had no relevance to me since I don’t eat raw eggs.

Don’t get me started on engineers. I had to work with them my whole career and I could have strangled at least half of them.

Pork butt.

You had me scared when I just looked at the picture. lol. I thought they were cinnamon rolls.

Interesting. Haven’t heard that before. Can you quote a source?

Yeah, you might say I’m a pet lover. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Bob is correct, it came from ChatGPT. It’s totally shareable.

“Where did you gain your background in nutrition?” Asked the fat lady to the man in impeccable health. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Can’t add much to the great advice already given other than to say welcome to Carnivore Talk LT. community is important so get involved. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There is a lot of truth in that. It really boils down to your Why. How bad do you want to do something. Those of us who are desperate to heal and live have more motivation. I remember that when I was in basic training and AIT (Advanced Infantry Training) we had to go through these “Confidence Courses”. These were designed to put obstacles in our path that we had to overcome. I was amazed that I was able to get through the course. Most over the obstacles looked impossible or dangerous but we were taught to persevere with determination to overcome them. I learned that nothing is impossible if you are willing to give it all you’ve got. Young people today come from what I like to call the microwave generation. People today expect to get their food hot in a minute from a microwave but in my day you either waited 45 minutes to an hour for your leftovers to heat up in the oven or you just ate it cold. Today we can get what we mail ordered the very next day but in my day it would be 6-8 weeks if you ordered something. Today if you don’t have enough money to buy something you just whip out that credit card and you can take the purchase home with you but in my day you put it on law-away and spent the next six weeks paying it off before you could take possession. We have instant email today but I’m my day you sent a letter it would be 3- 8 weeks before it got there. Hence the term “snail-mail”. Yep, everyone wants instant gratification these days.

Getting the numbers right is important. I found a website that had a calculator to help me get the optimal size / length of the stack right for the size of my pit as well as the opening from firebox to the pit and the opening for the smoke and heat coming up from the reverse flow plate. The flow was beautiful and the temps were nearly identical throughout the pit.