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The only supplement that will help is butter or beef fat. I don’t like pork or chicken unless I drown it in butter. There just isn’t enough of the right fats in them to satiate me. If you are experiencing cravings after eating that much meat then you definitely need to be eating more fat at your meal. Salt can also help but fat is better. That growling isn’t your stomach. It’s fluids moving through your intestines. You are highly addicted to carbs and there’s no easy easy way of doing this if you don’t have the right mindset. You have to be determined to win at all costs. Failure is not an option. When you have that kind of mindset it’s much easier to ignore the cravings. For the average person they only last 2 to 4 weeks. Hang in there. Eat plenty of fat and get tough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don’t drink milk since being on carnivore. I’m in the camp that believes it’s not necessary for our health. Many believe that milk is for putting on weight in babies and that adults shouldn’t be drinking it. But, before carnivore I loved drinking milk and our go to was Fairlife. 2% is junk as it’s mostly just sugar. Drink what you want and if it’s not hurting you then carry on but if you are hitting plateaus or gaining weight then that’s the first place I’d look. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You are welcome. I see it so often where people only think about themselves and don’t think about how their actions affect those around them. I know I’ve enjoyed your posts and you bring value to us. You should consider joining us on our weekly zoom call. We need some fresh blood in there. Thats good to know and what you are eating sounds great. The only thing I’d change, and this is just me, is I wouldn’t eat unless I’m hungry. That’s just how I like to do carnivore and it’s how I feel best. In the beginning I ate by the clock and one day it just hit me, why am I eating if I’m not hungry. True hunger is your body telling you that it needs fuel. No hunger? No fuel needed. But I have no idea how that would work for a diabetic. That’s good. Well those times are a good thing in that they teach you. Forget the mistake but remember the lesson or, nothing tastes as good as how I feel.

I have heard from many carnivores that have abstained from all sweets for a long time that the first time they eat something sweet that it is overpowering to them in the sweetness. It’ll be interesting to see how it affects you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah it’s hard to get good Mexican outside of the border states. When my son was working the oilfields up in Pennsylvania or maybe Ohio, not sure which, he came home for a visit and I told him that I’d cook something up that weekend all he had to do was tell me what he wanted. He said “Well dad, there’s two things I can’t get up north, Mexican food and barbecue. I’m going out for Mexican tonight so I could really enjoy some of your brisket and ribs”. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There you go…Get marching in March or Get Moving in March. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A couple of recent studies have documented that the healthiest sodium intake is 4-6 g/day, which translates to 10-15 g/day of table salt, including the salt already present in our food. I don’t know how that equates to teaspoons but this is just what the carnivore community advises. Me personally I don’t pay any attention to any of it. I salt my food when I cook it and I salt it to taste when I eat. I have no idea how much I’m getting but my blood tests always show my sodium levels to be at the lower end of the chart. Things might be different for a diabetic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m far from being any kind of expert on this. In fact glycogenolysis is a new one on me. But here’s what I do know (or think I know😏) Fat adapted isn’t about whether you get the runs or not. That just means that your gut biome has adapted to digesting fats and proteins instead of carbs. Gluconeogenesis can be a good thing or a bad thing. Gluconeogenesis which is a conversion of amino acids or the glycerol from triglycerides from fat. We can turn that into glucose and get all we need. The body makes exactly what you need. That is what you are experiencing and that’s a good thing. Especially for a T1. But it is said that too much protein and not enough fat in the diet can also cause Gluconeogenesis which would kick us out of ketosis and in the case of a diabetic could be bad if the glucose gets to high. It’s my understanding though that it would take a very large amount of protein to do that. Gluconeogenesis is supply driven. This means that your body only creates glucose from protein when it’s needed not simply because you ate protein. In fact, adequate protein intake is essential for muscle maintenance, hormone production and overall health. So moderation protein intake will not knock you out of ketosis or spike your blood sugar in a significant way and never forget that low carb diets are moderate protein diets not high protein diets. Yes this happens but from my understanding, those of use who pretty much stay in a ketogenic state snap back quickly into ketosis within a day or two. I don’t know if diabetics do or not. So I’m not trying to be mean or sound condescending and forgive me if I come across that way but why would you eat anything like sugar or carbs knowing full well that they do nothing but harm you? You’ve got more to lose than the rest of us. Come on man, eat right and maintain your health not only for yourself but those who love you. You have value to those around you and to us as well. Ok, off my soapbox now. Well that aught to help keep you on the straight and narrow. “Nothing tastes as good as how I feel” should be your motto. 👍 Negative ghost rider. Insulin resistance is what happens when you are diabetic. Your cells close the door to insulin and won’t allow anymore in. As non-diabetic carnivores we are insulin sensitive. At least that is how I understand it. Now exactly how that works with a T1 I don’t know but I would think that you are in a permanent state of insulin resistance. Yes everything should go down because you are not shoving carbs down your throat and there is less glucose running around in your body. I was listening to a podcast where Prof Bart Kay was interviewing a doctor who was a T1. The doctor said that he was on a high amount of insulin every day, I don’t remember the number, maybe 300? I don’t know, does that sound right? But after being carnivore he only takes 100 and that’s good for him all day. I don’t understand the numbers and how all of that works but it sounds pretty good to me. I’ll have to study up on that glycogenolysis.

I have no experience with it myself as I don’t chew gum but supposedly Xylitol is derived from natural sugars but doesn’t cause blood sugar spikes and has no calories. I know that for those of us that avoid all sugars a sweeteners anything sweet has the potential to kick off a craving for something sweet. If that wouldn’t bother you then you could always give it a try and see if it affects you. If it does then it’s easy to just stop. As carnivores we often come across things that are not pure carnivore but if they don’t affect our metabolism or put on weight then it’s really no big deal. I’m pretty strict in my diet but I do allow indulgences now and then. I’ll still eat some jalapeños once in a while. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well I can’t say that I feel any different today. In fact I’m a little tired. After I broke my fast yesterday I had plenty of energy and felt good. I worked hard in my barn most of the day and then worked on my Harley until late in the evening. It felt really good. I slept longer than I normally do but I woke up tired and have felt tired all day so far. I don’t have any idea why unless it’s just because I just did too much yesterday and my body just haven’t caught up yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well I can’t provide any evidence other that my own hair. I’ve never said anything about “never” washing my hair. I’ve just gone one week and then two weeks and it’s been just fine. I suppose if I never washed it you might be right but I don’t intend to do that. I’ve just been experimenting and I’ve found that it isn’t necessary for me to wash my hair everyday like I used to. Now if I’m working out in the heat all day or cleaning and leveling horse stalls in the dusty barn you can bet I’ll be washing my hair regardless of the last time I washed it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have no idea what a flamer is but you sir add absolutely no value to this forum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I eat as much salt as tastes good to me and when I know I’m going to be outside in the heat all day working I’ll add salt to my water. It wasn’t very long into my carnivore lifestyle that my blood pressure got so low that my cardiologist took me off of my medication. Excessive sodium intake can lead to fluid retention and increased blood volume, thereby raising blood pressure. But…on carnivore we don’t retain fluids but instead tend to flush fluids out because we don’t have carbs or fiber to retain them. Also as carnivores we really aren’t getting as much sodium as we might think. Because we are no longer eating a bunch of highly processed foods our sodium levels can be lower. Highly processed foods are loaded with sodium. Now here are some TCT’s that studied the effects of sodium in our diets. Bear in mind these aren’t conducted on carnivores. Randomized controlled trials (i) Midgley et al (1996)[15] In a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials covering 56 trials with 3,505 participants, it was found that salt reduction had no benefit for people with normal blood pressure and but had a small benefit for older people with high blood pressure (3.7 mm Hg for systolic and 0.9 mm Hg for diastolic). The authors concluded that evidence does not support universal salt restriction recommendations. (ii) Sacks et al (2001)[16] In this study, a total of 412 participants were randomly assigned to eat either a control diet typical of intake in the United States or the DASH diet. Within the assigned diet, participants ate foods with high, intermediate, and low levels of sodium for 30 consecutive days each. On the standard American diet: • reducing the sodium intake from high to intermediate levels reducing the systolic blood pressure by 2.1 mm Hg • reducing the sodium intake from intermediate level to low level causing an additional reduction of 4.6 mm Hg On the DASH diet: • reducing the sodium intake from high to intermediate levels reducing the systolic blood pressure by 1.3 mm Hg • reducing the sodium intake from intermediate level to low level causing an additional reduction of 1.7 mm Hg. The finding of this study is often quoted in support of low sodium intake advice by authorities. (iii) Adler et al (2014)[17] In this meta-analysis of 8 randomized controlled trials with 7,284 participants, the authors found that a reduction in salt consumption led to a small reduction in blood pressure after 6 months. In particular, for people with normal blood pressure, there was a reduction of 2.32 mm Hg for systolic and 0.8 for diastolic. For people with high blood pressure, there was a reduction of 4.14mm Hg for systolic but no difference in diastolic blood pressure. There was no evidence of a reduction in all-cause mortality. There was weak evidence of cardiovascular benefits but these findings were inconclusive and were driven by a single trial among retirement home residents. (iv) Khan et al (2019)[18] This study is a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and meta-analyses of RCTs that assessed the effects of nutritional supplements or dietary interventions on all-cause mortality or cardiovascular outcomes, such as death, myocardial infarction, stroke, and coronary heart disease. The authors concluded that there was moderate-certainty evidence that reduced salt intake decreased the risk for all-cause mortality in people with normal blood pressure and cardiovascular mortality in people with high blood pressure. The authors also noted a limitation of the study is the suboptimal quality and certainty of evidence. Epidemiological studies (i) O’Donnell et al (2014)[19] In a study involving 101,945 participants in 17 countries, sodium intake was estimated from urine samples and the composite outcome of death and major cardiovascular events were followed up after 3.7 years. It was found that an estimated sodium intake between 3 and 6 g per day was associated with a lower risk of death and cardiovascular events than was either a higher or lower estimated level of intake. This range of sodium intake is 2 to 4 times what the Institute of Medicine recommends. (ii) Mente et al (2016)[20] In a pooled analysis of studies comprising 133,118 from 49 countries, the authors examined the relationship between urinary sodium excretion (a proxy for sodium intake) and the composite outcome of death and major cardiovascular disease events over a median of 4.2 years and blood pressure. The main findings of the study are: • For people with high blood pressure, consuming sodium of more than 7g a day or less than 3g a day were both associated with an increased risk of death and cardiovascular disease compared to people consuming from 4 to 5 grams a day • For people with normal blood pressure, consuming sodium of more than 7g a day was not associated with an increased risk of death and cardiovascular disease, but consuming sodium of less than 3g a day was associated with a significantly increased risk of death and cardiovascular disease. • Furthermore, irrespective of blood pressure status, people consuming less sodium (7g a day). In layman’s terms, according to this study: • Whether you have or don’t have high blood pressure, consuming too little salt (less than 3 grams of sodium a day or less than 1⅓ teaspoon of salt a day) increases your risk of death and cardiovascular diseases • If you have normal blood pressure, consuming a lot of sodium (more than 7g a day or more than 3 teaspoons of salt a day) doesn’t seem to do you any harm • If you have high blood pressure, it’s better to limit sodium consumption to 4 to 5 grams a day or about 2 teaspoons of salt a day. This is double the current salt intake recommendation. (iii) O’Donnell et al (2020)[21] In a comprehensive review of evidence to date, the authors contend that current evidence suggests that most of the world’s population consumes a moderate amount of sodium (2.3g – 4.6g/day or 1–2 teaspoons/day). This level of consumption is not associated with increased cardiovascular risk and the risk of cardiovascular disease only increases when sodium intakes exceed 5 g/day. (iv) Messerli (2021)[22] In this large-scale epidemiological study, the authors examined the relation between sodium intake and life expectancy as well as survival in 181 countries worldwide. Contrary to the advice from health authorities and organizations worldwide, they found a positive correlation between sodium intake and life expectancy at birth and at age of 60. In particular, there was an increase of 2.6 years of healthy life expectancy at birth and an additional 0.3 years at the age of 60 for each additional gram of daily sodium intake. In addition, all-cause mortality was found to be inversely correlated with sodium intake with 131 fewer deaths per each additional gram of daily sodium intake. In a sensitivity analysis restricted to 46 countries in the highest income class, sodium intake continued to correlate positively with healthy life expectancy at birth (an increase of 3.4 years of healthy life expectancy at birth for each additional gram of daily sodium intake) and all-cause mortality (168 fewer deaths for each additional gram of daily sodium intake). Summary of evidence In summary, in randomized controlled trials, the reduction of sodium intake is found to modestly lower blood pressure from 1.3 to 4.6 mmHg. This is a negligible impact in the whole scheme of things, for example when high blood pressure is from 140 mmHg and above. However, there is no strong evidence indicating that lowering salt intake leads to a decrease in mortality and cardiovascular risks. In epidemiological studies, overall findings indicate that 3 to 6g of sodium a day is positively associated with better health outcomes. This level of sodium consumption, however, is 2 to 4 times the currently recommended level. Also, note that due to the observational nature of epidemiological studies, no causality can be proven. At best, the totality of evidence suggests that for people with high blood pressure, there is some benefit in maintaining a moderate salt consumption. As for the general population, there is no strong evidence suggesting that they should limit their salt consumption. In my view, it is pretty reckless to universally recommend over 6 billion people to limit salt consumption on such flimsy evidence which is mostly centered around a single trial of 412 people over a 30-day period. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Zero evidence? Lol. Our own experience is our evidence. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

But your IP Address shows you are in New York, New York. I’ve been to Wyoming several times and have never come across anyone like you from there. New York must have rubbed off on you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well you like to prove that you are a jerk every day on here. You have proven that you know very little about carnivore and go out of your way to insult other members on here. I guess it’s just a New York thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And you can make your own. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Maybe so but it hasn’t been my experience so far. My two weeks is up today so I will be washing my hair to tonight. Again, I wonder if the type of water makes any difference. I also wonder if the length of the hair matters too. I keep my hair fairly short. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’d like to try it some day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I haven’t “avoided” anything. My answer was I looked them and found nothing that bothered me. But since you are too lazy to look them up yourself I do the work for you. Xantum gum is a thickener and stabilizer. Natural flavors can are a flavor enhancer that can be derived from plants, animals or fruits. It can also have chemicals in it. In this case we don’t know what they are using for a natural flavoring. Nisin is an anti bacterial peptide used as a preservative. Nothing in that bothers me and I’ve done great eating those. Now, when are you going to answer my question, what danger zone? and you didn’t answer my Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah the strips are not very accurate because they can only measure excess ketones that are being expelled not what’s in your system or what’s being used. The meters are better but they are only measuring what’s in your blood stream at that particular time. Useful but only to a degree. My energy levels were very good. In fact my energy levels help me want to do more and when doing more I didn’t get hungry so it worked well for me. I had to break my fast today though. I was getting light headed and almost passed out a couple of times. I was doing some work that required a bunch of bending over and getting back up it really hot to me. The blood just wasn’t getting to my head quick enough when I straightened up. Actually hit my knees one time. I figured it was time to eat something.

It’s the ketones. It’s the only energy source you have now. I’m on the back end of a 48 hour fast. I haven’t decided if I want to go 72 hours yet or not. I’ll just play it by ear and see how I feel tomorrow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I agree with him on eating mushrooms. They are not necessary for proper nutrition and add nothing beneficial to the body. Someone eating a keto diet can eat them if they choose because keto is all about the carb counting so as long as go over the carb limit they are ok. As a carnivore I will not eat vegetables because they provide nothing nutritional or bio available for my body. I can get all of the nutrition I need from meat. I will on occasion though indulge in one fruit and that’s jalapeños. Gotta have my bacon wrapped poppers every once in awhile. My only cheat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk