Scott F.

If there is an underlying medical issue it may be more than 'just starting carnivore again'. I'm ten months in and don't think I have enough experience to offer advice nor 'teach the way' LOL. In my personal experience, fat and electrolytes have been a constant process of dialing in to what suits me/works for me. If my fat intake drops low over a period of days I get constipated, but when I do go it is followed by several loose stools over that same day. Loose enough that what was enough water intake is now not enough water intake. From there I have some cramping. I dial it in, get a good stretch, and then inevitably I repeat. I am only ten months in and have tried different approaches within the 'meat, salt and water' eating. As of late I have increased eating trying to hit a protein target to go along with a lifting program. When I eat more, I go more. I think carnivore worked best for me when my approach was eat when I am hungry and then eat til I am full. Within a couple months I was eating once per day and I had incredible benefits and some normalcy with my stools. I don't think my body is as near as efficient eating more trying to hit a protein target. I am not sure it should work with excess. Good luck. Welcome back. Hopefully you can find your path. It is almost like I found mine, but intended and inadvertent tweaks leave me with bathroom issues. Scott

During the night my blood sugar inched back up from 70 to 85. That was about 18 hours into the fast. I went to the gym this morning after work. I got in a pretty good hour. This morning the gym was packed and it is hard enough for me to sit idle to rest between sets and just about impossible to wait for someone to finish my next machine/station. I sped up what I was doing but cut the lift short a bit. About to crash and sort of wondering how the fasting and the lifting are going to collide when I wake up this afternoon. Unchartered waters for me. Scott

Those were some of the things going thru my head. After a hard workout am I sore because I worked out hard or I am older. it is hard to go back in time and say I could have lifted or did this much and not be sore, so maybe I feel older. Then, my brain flips and I think back then it would have taken more to get to the sore/worn out point and I would have been much younger, so it is the load not the age. The it flips again and I am I feeling older after the gym or did I just not eat right or drink right leading up to the gym to make me 'feel older'? I was doing hamstring work last week and cramped so bad it felt like my hamstrings and claves were lifting the weight without me helping, just by contracting. it was all I could do to get off the machine. I walked like Tim Conway golfing' all the way to the water fountain. One of the gym guys says, "you are not as young as you use to be". That is very true, but if I had drank water and ate slat like I should have I would have not cramped at all so in my mind age didn't factor (except maybe I am old enough to know better which is an entirely different problem, LOL). Again, great question. I'm still undecided. LOL Scott

It has been for me. I came off pain and inflammation medicine for an autoimmune disease (NMO/SD) and lost a bunch of weight. Good luck and the positive outlook may be half the battle. Scott

I came out of the service in the 90's and I felt like I could not only lift the world but run around it a couple times if needed. I traded lean and fit for drunk and stupid. I quit drinking many years ago but ate a trash/dumpster diet my entire life. Babbling on to get to the point. I think the gym is all about habits and addictions. When I first started going to the gym about 8 months ago, I definitely felt old and most definitely felt out of shape. As the weight peeled off and the workouts picked up in volume and intensity, I felt sore but not old (if that makes any sense at all). Believe it or not at 55 I am stronger than I was when I was 25 or 35. I have more energy now than I have had in a really long time. Now some 8 months later I have changed my diet to hit a protein target and morphed off the 'only full body workout' and now targeting muscles in a split. The gym is my new 'habit' and I doubt I am addicted but it does bother me if I miss a scheduled day to workout. I am not sure if I feel better and younger, or just better. Great question. I have answered it ten different ways in my head as I type. I'm going to think on it a bit and re-visit the thread later. Scott

Sometimes stumbling upon the answer is better than a well thought out plan. I'm ten months in and I had no idea the benefits that were just sitting out there waiting for me to make better decisions. Welcome. And congrats on the first five days. Scott

Yes. There was not a lot of weight drop over the course of the fast but it did stoke a 3-4-5lb fall the first three or four days afterwards. This time I started at 222lbs. Scott

When I look at it on plate and I feel like an average to above average veterinarian could still save him, I'm good. Scott

Yep. Both of the others I ate that night when I got to work and the fast started afterwards. I can't remember what I ate the day of prior to the last one. I think by eating a lot as of late, skipping breakfast and letting the last meal be lunch vs. dinner is a bit different. My notes say and I don't remember being hungry during the fasts but I feel like I could eat tonight. I'm guessing most of it is the 'eating habits of late' and abruptly going to one meal day that leads into a fast. Probably not the best plan but I am about ten hours deep now. Damn the torpedoes.....and all that inspirational jargon. LOL Scott

The first time was easier than I thought, and all was well til the 71st hour of the 72 hours of the fast. My last meal had been just as I started night shift a couple nights before. I pulled into the parking lot and all felt well. I stepped out of the truck and hit a wall. I had barely enough energy to get across the parking lot. Completely and utterly zapped. I ate and then felt much better, but the energy levels just pretty much returned to normal. I am sure there were benefits but at the time I didn't feel them (if that makes any sense at all) In Feb I did a 72 hour fast and it was way easier than I ever imagined. I didn't get hungry, and I felt pretty good all the way til the end. I even considered stretching it out to 96 hours. I read a couple of articles, not necessarily conflicting, but differing opinions on the benefits of fasting past 72 hours. Coming out of that fast I felt like I could have easily done another 24 hours for a 96 hour fast. I ate Friday night and Saturday started off with some stool issues. Almost constipated followed by really loose for most of the morning. I probably should have eased back into eating with a smaller meal, but I didn't, and I think I had to pay for it. I felt pretty good that Sunday and had a really energetic workout. On Monday I started dayshift and I had energy to burn all four days. I woke up at 3AM and went to the gym for a really good workout, followed that with a 12-13 hour shift and when I got home that evening, I fed up everything with gas still in the tank. Energy levels after the second fast were crazy high. Almost weird. I am sure the ketones were bouncing around at a crazy rate, maybe even to a level I had not experienced. This is why I am bummed the ketone meter did not come in on time. I'm really interested in the ketones and depths of ketosis throughout the fast. (mostly 'just to know'). I don't think I am at a point to give out advice or recommend a fast to anyone but so far, I have one 71 hour fast that felt ho-hum afterwards and another that left me with energy to burn all week. It may have lasted five or six days before it planed back out to more normal. For me, it sounds harder to do than actually do. Scott

I planned the fast for these three nights. I am not sure how long it will las this time. I have been eating like a horse as of late and I think my body was getting use to the 'extra'. I had a pretty good lift this morning and skipped the breakfast meal I have had for the last several weeks. My meal at lunch today was six eggs. 8 hours in and my blood sugar is at 70. I started today at 222lbs which is up 8 in the last two weeks but still 84 down from last May. Totally bummed that my ketone meter did not arrive in time. I went to several places in town and none were available. Not knocking on the pharmacist but she assured me the strips provided me with all the information I needed. Sometimes we can choose our battles. Today I chose not to educate someone with more education than me. Maybe another day. 8 hours deep and I won't say I am hungry, but I will say I know I didn't eat three times today. (if that makes any sense at all). Scott

I'm glad to hear it. As of late, I would be in a lot of trouble. LOL Scott

I had a fairly good workout this morning and skipped breakfast to make an early morning appointment. I just got home and had 6 eggs for lunch. Crack them in the pan and wait for them to be just about ready to flip and then a light scramble. Hard to beat. Quick, easy and hits the sweet spot. Scott

I was with you til you said anchovies...... LOL Scott

Since bumping my protein grams per day up I am in the range of 6-10 per day. I like them most any way but mostly I crack them in the pan, and just about when they have cooked enough to flip, I do a soft scramble. But I like eggs just about any way they are cooked. Scott

Book "1 of 1" has been spoken for. Just saying. Scott

I have been doing mostly full body lifting coupled with the walking and the pushups/air squats along the walk. I have just worked out on my days off and just recently started working out before work when I am on days. I may work out/walk three or four days in a row and then three-four-five days of just working. As of late I don't feel like I'm 'getting it done' so I have started to do splits and keep the body parts about 72 hours apart. The big change will be working out before or after shift to maintain that lift/rest rotation. I lifted at from about 5AM til a little after 6AM on both Saturday and Sunday. It was back and biceps on Saturday and chest and triceps on Sunday. Between getting up earlier, the actual lifting followed by a 12 hour shift I am feeling it this morning. Maybe it was the more than I am use to per muscle group, or the getting up and going a little earlier, but I'm tight and sore throughout my upper body. Today I'm going to catch up on a few things around the house, pick up limbs and what nots from last nights storm and maybe even set the rear end in the 1950 Chevrolet chassis I just built. Babbling on, but without the fatty carnivore approach I don't think/would not have had the energy to get to this point at 55. I always add I stumbled onto the health benefits thru ignorance and luck but the way I feel now vs. ten months ago might be lottery like. Scott

When the Orweller book of 'sayings' and 'analogies' comes out, can you drop me a line? Scott

I lifted the last two days before work. Yesterday I was fine all day. No issues completing the shift. Today, I'm feeling it a little bit and I'm almost dragging thru the last three hours. I read somewhere it would be worth it. LOL Scott

I alternate days with the weighted vest. Mine is too heavy but the weighted bags are incredibly hard to move in and out of the pouches. I wish I had bought a different brand. Without the weight of a vest a small back pack can do the same thing. However, "Ruck-sacking" may bring back memories. Scott

Eating for fuel is something I grew up with since childhood. My Pops would always say things like, "Eat you breakfast we have pour concrete/frame a house/lay shingles/fix a truck". You name it. We would eat our big family Sunday dinner after church and he would always say things like, "Eat up, we got a long 40 hours this week". I think that is why I grew up to be such a boring eater. I never needed the variety, and I don't remember ever being excited about a new restaurant or trying something new. I think being a boring eater really helped me shift to Carnivore. It was perceived as fuel for a bunch of years and now I see it as fuel. Scott

It would not be ideal but if you need that to get yourself to a better place, by all means that can be your path. Not exactly the same but along the same lines. I thought I went cold turkey on sugar when I started but I had never been much on drinking just water. I used drink mixers the first couple three months. There were some hidden sugars in the packets and over time I worked myself off the mixers and now it is plain water. I didn't realize I was doing it at the time, but I was weaning myself off of sugar thinking I went cold turkey. That process worked for me. Now I am a zero sugar-zero carb eater but a mistake I made early on allowed me to get to this point. I am sure the Carnivore Police will frown upon the onions and garlic but if you use it as a tool to get to a better place, well, you getting to a better place is the object of the game. Scott

Probably the most underrated exercise. Scott

LMNT is a good choice. I didn't like the taste but I know several that do. There is some stuff out there about some extra sugars but I think the amounts are small, but they were sort of misleading. I basically went to youtube and watched a video for making my own electrolyte drink at home. A really good drink can be made for pennies a days vs. dollars on the pre-made packets/drink mixers. After time I am mostly using the electrolyte mix I made as my 'table salt' and then drink plain water. Congrats on starting the carnivore diet and welcome to the forum. For some it can be a tough go when getting started but it is well worth the efforts. Scott

For me, my fastest losses/most consistent losing was OMAD with a tad bit of meat snacks here and there plus walking for distance. It peeled off. My stalls were around drinking milk on occasion and fat content dropping. Scott