Scott F.

Just tagging on to an old post. I had bloodwork earlier in the week. For the most part pre-carnivore, I was healthy, just fat, if that can make any sense at all. I never had a blood pressure issue and my glucose was sort of low, especially in the mornings. My cholesterol was up, high, but not totally alarming (to me anyways). This trip my blood pressure was 99/66. Which is a few points down as normally it hangs around 110-112 over 60-70. My glusose A1C number inched down from 4.73 to 4.32 (which is odd because my daily's have been a hair over 100 for the last couple months and before I needed a Little Debbie cake to get to the mid 90's). The Vitamin D moved up 9 spots to 46. Total cholesterol dropped some and now is at 219. The HDL is 37 and the LDL is 187. ( I was thinking the total would drop a bit more and maybe even a slight better LDL number---then again, I have to factor its only been 111 days since I started---patience is not my strong suit). The triglycerides are close to the same at 75. My hemoglobin and hematocrit has always been on the lower end of the chart but this time they both dropped just under the 'normal'. The doctor recommended an iron supplement every other day. She said there could be some constipation. I told her I am on the carnivore diet and if I miss on fat, water or electrolytes a little constipation would be a good thing. My doctor is on vacation so I seen Dr. Avery for the first time. She was really receptive of the carnivore approach. She said she never met anyone who did the diet for a long stretch and she had only read about some of the 'benefits'. We spent twenty minutes with me telling her how it has been working for me. My favorite thing to hear from a doctor is, 'not everything needs a pill'. She told me at my next appointment she would be well versed on the carnivore approach. Sometimes getting the warm fuzzies from your doctor means a lot. Babbling. I'm trying to copy and paste the records from 5/13 and 8/27 for comparison sake, but the portal is not cooperating. Scott

We do. But this time of the year it is really hot and the chickens slack up. I get a pack of things and leg quarters and take them out to the chicken pen and show them the difference between laying chickens and meat chickens. They usually pick up a little after the choice is left up to them. Scott

Nice. Our basket looks similar. Scott

Going to be tough with the dislike for meat to be a on a meat based diet. I would say you are going to have to be creative. This week I am planning to make a carnivore pizza with minced chicken as the crust. Sounds interesting and will be a little different. Once I work my way thru what is in the freezer Im going red meat, water and salt for a stretch to see how that works/feels. Welcome to the board. Best of luck. Scott

Great post. My weight has come off incredibly fast. But with that said, I hit some 1-2 week stalls as far as the scales go. Even then I felt like I was cinching the belt up a notch or two. It is nice to 'see' the numbers fall, but sometimes, they are just that, numbers. As humans we are mostly impatient. (Me) I spent 30+ years with a dumpster diet and a trash lifestyle but then was disheartened because the scale didn't drop immediately. Human nature to a point. A one or two week stall is really nothing in the big picture. Maybe I am losing weight and gaining patience, not sure. Best of luck at keeping it going. I'm about 105 days in and still feel like I am brand new to the idea, still learning, still experimenting trying to find what works best for me. Scott

The Lion Diet Guide: Benefits, Risks, and Tips - Dr. Robert Kiltz (doctorkiltz.com) I'm not as much on studies as I am the personal experiences of others. Great conversation above. I'm at work and using some downtime to read. The above article had some of the information here at the bottom. I'm not picking sides, nor being judgmental. I don't eat peppers because I don't like them, and I had to look up the definition of Natto. I never had them, but they don't sound appealing. LOL I have been straight carnivore since the third week of May. I use butter, use cheese on occasion and the past two weeks I had maybe three or four glasses of milk. I'm not sure what 'my plan' is called but I have lost 57lbs since May 8th and been off pain/inflammation meds since the last part of May. (Each time I type I lead off with the weight loss knowing full well being off the meds is a much bigger deal considering the autoimmune disease and all. I guess weight loss is a better hook. LOL) I have found I do better on the red meats. I was making plans this past week to go red meats, water and salt for a few weeks just to explore that as a path forward. But then Sam's and our local butcher shop had a killer sale on chicken and I couldn't pass it up. As the freezer goes empty in the next week or so I'm going to I guess what is called the Lion's diet. I'm sure time will tell. Scott

Two good responses. One of the primary things to understand it is a process of elimination. (I was 6'3" 306 and as high as 320, so not pointing fingers). I made all the "right" decision to get to 320 if 320 was my goal. Since I started carnivore it has been much more about what I am not eating than what I am eating. Eating animal products, drinking water and adding salt works but the objective is to eliminate all the things that helped me get to 320. I would take the advice from Bob Geezy, as both are solid. Then look at what has been eliminated and what still may need to be eliminated. As far as the scale, although I have dropped a lot of weight there were times when it stalled. During the stall times I was still cinching up the belt every so often. And before the weight was seriously falling, I came off meds for ped/inflammation from NMOSD (auto-immune disease). There are positives other than the scale. Recognize and celebrate those when you can. Best of luck. Scott

Congrats. I'm maybe a 100 or so days in and it has been more than amazing for me. Best of luck. Scott

I'm going to guess it comes down to the individual. For me it is butter. If the butter intake eases up some I start getting a bit loose. The other fats are usually with their respective meat and it does not bother me as much, if any at all. I made some beef tallow to use with cooking and it does not affect me the same as butter. Just me, no literature or data to support. Scott

I am almost possible you get to keep your membership card. Scott

I think it was called the Meat Only diet or even the Stonehenge diet. Scott

Agree with Geezy. Stay positive. I'm no expert but sometimes the weight is just a number and you may stall on the scales and still cinch the belt up a notch. I hung out at 25-29 pounds, up and down for a period, but the belt was moving. Good luck. And not only see the positives but look for the positives as well. Scott

Thus far I am the 'all positives guy'. The closest I have ventured into the non-carnivore ways is eating at a Mexican restaurant. The cooked onions were hidden under the meat platter, and I am sure (even though I asked) all of it was cooked in the same oils. In June I was just getting out of the early diarrhea phases. Just the cooking in seed or vegetable oils was like a gut grenade. I'm no scientist but I have proofed the oils for me. The last month or so I had worked into solid stools and a more regular BM. Slowly easing into/progressing into lifestyle from diet. My buddy had a string of bad luck. I put a belt tensioner on his son's car outside in the high 90's. We moved from that and moved his washer out to put a water pump on it. From there his freezer had died and we moved it to the outside. My mom had a bed and furniture to toss out. Maybe 12 hours of non-stop movement and most of it in the sun. Maybe for the third time since May I came home and was actually hungry. Like, I truly wanted to eat and needed to eat. (red meat is amazing, LOL) My son and the gang had fried chicken wings for one of the first pre-season football gangs (to kick off our Football Sundays at the cabin). He made me a plate of plain wings and they were awesome. The kicker was they were cooked in peanut oil. It was not exactly a double blind study with absolute control samples. But for me, it was a gut grenade. Gut grenades should be avoided. Scott

Congrats on the progress. Scott

As I read more and more it is sort of strange that two different doctors with the basically the same medical school training can be polar opposite on certain situations. I have a friend at work that switched to carnivore when I was about 3-4 weeks in, and 25-30 pounds lost. He quickly started dropping weight. His doctor advised him against the carnivore diet based on the it being an incomplete diet. In turn, he prescribed him one of the ozempics, etc. etc. One of the neurologists I see tells me that if they had perfected medicine a long time ago, he could give me some absolutes but since they were still practicing medicine, a lot of the decisions would be on me. One day I would wake up with aches and pains and it could be NMOSD/Devic's as the cause. The next day I could wake up with really similar aches and pains, but it very well could be I was over 50 and over a hundred pounds overweight. Scott

As soon as we got past white sugar and brown sugar things were coating downhill....fast. Scott

Good luck to you as well. Scott

Welcome. Great community here. Scott

My sleep has changed and the immediate wake-up started pretty early after the switch. From the military to a life long 12 hour rotating shift worker my sleep hours have always been from 9-3 AM or PM. I can't remember ten times in the last 25 years where the alarm clock woke me up in the mornings. I have always been awake, just laying there til it went off or got close. About three weeks into this I was in another world and the alarm clock went off. My wife said I came out of the bed like the house was on fire. It was rather shocking. Not being a scientist or researchers or medical professional I can't totally say this is a result of the carnivore diet but I can say it never happened before the carnivore diet. Scott

We went to a Harri Teeter to do some meat shopping. My wife was in line at customer service and I pushed our basket to get out of the way of traffic. I landed right beside an end cap donut/sweet cake/muffin display. The marketing/strategy guy/gal was spot on because I think over half the carts that came thru the door hit that end cap. I'm not sure I was disgusted but I did think that use to be me. No craving or anything like that but I did think about how the placement helped make the sale. Which to me, means a lot of the bad things we ate are just habit and habit-forming. Scott

Congrats. I too eased out of the sugars easily as well. My Mountain Dew and Little Debbie cake every morning was somewhere between ritual and religion. LOL So far the only time similar to yours was some black beans and corn. I would have thought it would have been one of the sugars like the soft drinks or the sweet cakes or maybe even the ice cream. Nope. Black beans and corn. I have not tracked calories since I started. I might try it just to see where I'm at just to know. Again, congrats on the first two weeks. Scott

The testimonials and the information are endless. I enter CARNIVORE DIET + MS and the information is more than plentiful. Hope your friend can find some relief. From personal experience, it is a rough go. Thoughts and prayers. Scott