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The Lion Diet is the most optimal of all the ketogenic diets. It also the most radical. It is the most basic and primal. It is also the perfect elimination diet in that you are removing everything that isn’t needed for human survival. But what’s best is what’s best for you. Most people want more variety than just ruminant meat. Most people who eat Lion are trying to solve specific issues. If you can roll that way then go for it. If it doesn’t seem to suit you or you get bored with it then you can always introduce other types of meats back in. Now in my case, I’m a carnivore. I eat animal fats, animal proteins, salt and water. I deviate very little from that. I will occasionally have a few slices of jalapeño with my carnivore nachos or a little clean hot sauce on my carnivore fried fish but those occasions are far and few between and they do not affect me physically. That’s really important. When you eliminate all of the non essential foods then try to introduce something you need to see if it bothers you. If so then it’s gone forever but if not? Then you can have it in small amounts occasionally if you’d like. You just need to be disciplined about it. 99% of the time I eat beef, lamb, venison, pork, fish, seafoods and chicken. I used to eat dairy but found it was addictive to me so I am abstaining from it at the present time. It took me three weeks to get over the cravings. I’m not saying I won’t eat dairy again but not until I’m sure I can control it. I haven’t read Dr Bakers book The Carnivore Diet but it might be helpful to you. Many carnivore doctors and utube influencers have videos detailing how to get started. Dr. Ken Berry has many good videos about getting started. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is a good video explaining how different carbs affect our insulin response and how it’s a hormonal issue. He also explains why it’s not so simple as CICO. (Calories In Calories Out). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can grok that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Venison stroganoff. Noodles made with sliced Egglife wraps. Slow cooked and shredded venison stew meat, bone broth, heavy cream and some truffle salt. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Table salt is out for me ever since I discovered it has sugar in it. Now when I go out to read I carry a little bottle of Redmonds salt with me so I don’t have to use what they have in the restaurant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Venison stew slow cooked in the crockpot with bone broth and a stick of butter. The meat was seasoned with salt and white pepper then seared in bacon fat. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Absolutely it can. That’s actually how you tell if something is bad for you. Carnivore is an elimination diet so you eliminate everything but fatty meat, salt and water. Then after a time, when everything clears up, let’s say 90 days to six months, you can try reintroducing one item back into your diet. If after a week if you don’t have any issues then it’s not a food that hurts you but if it does bother your system then it’s gone out of your life forever. As an example, about six months into my carnivore lifestyle my wife wanted some venison chili and I make a pretty good chili if I do say so myself [emoji41]. Well I decided to try some to see if I could handle it. Well I don’t know if it was the tomato sauce or the heavy chili powder but I was miserable for three days. Chili is out of my life forever. So my theory on all this is that when you eat something all the time, even though it doesn’t seem to bother you, you build up a tolerance to it and after staying away from it for awhile your body becomes more sensitive to it. For example, I used to drink so much that I could drink a case of beer in one day easy and pass a field sobriety test with no problem but today? Heck, probably three beers would put me under the table. So really the best thing you can do is just eat clean foods that provide nutrition for your body and cut out all of the ones that don’t and vegetables fall into that category. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That’s cool. I want to start making my own sausage because it’s so hard to find any that’s clean. Even my processor that I use puts sugar in the sausage. I do make my own bacon though and I have a batch brining right now. I’ll be smoking it Saturday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yep, the skin is the best part. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Doesn’t surprise me a bit. Any time we get away from what is natural and species specific we put ourselves in danger. A very truthful statement in there was this. “I don't agree with the premise that just because something is "plant-based", it is automatically healthy.” In fact I’d take it a step further and say it’s all unhealthy except for my steaks. They couldn’t be made without plants. [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok, that’s fine if you can handle it. I’m not the moderation type. I have to abstain from things like sugars and even artificial sweeteners. My wife is a moderation type but I just don’t have that kind of discipline. Franks hot sauce isn’t too bad in my opinion as long as you don’t have a sensitivity to the peppers and spices. It’s one of the few that are clean in my opinion because it doesn’t have any sugars or soy. I use it myself on occasion. I’m with you on the chicken. I used to love chicken until I became carnivore but it turned out that what I liked was fried chicken. It was the breading I was after not the meat. I still will eat some roast chicken now and again but when I do I have to drown it in butter to make it palatable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

As one who likes to do things his self, I approve this message. [emoji16] Do you make your own sausage too? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hey Scott. I just came across this video about someone with MS and is eating carnivore. I don’t know if I will have any relevance for you or not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m right there with you Scott. I want to shout the good news from the rooftops. It sounds like you’ve got the right mindset to succeed in this WOE. Keep up the good work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So I went grocery shopping with my son in law today. The selections were limited but very satisfying. And after a long day it was time to eat. Striper breaded in pork rind panko and fried in tallow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m doing great brother and I’m glad you are getting along so well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes smoked salt is a thing…a very good thing. I always try to dry brine my meats at least overnight before cooking. I have found that the longer I’m eating carnivore the less I desire seasoning other than salt. Be careful about using commercial seasonings. Read their labels carefully to understand what you are eating. Most of them that I’ve looked at, including the ones in my cupboard had sugar or some derivatives of sugar and some had soy products and chemicals that I couldn’t pronounce. So it all just depends on how strict you want to be. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Welcome aboard tatertot. Ron White fan? Your chiropractor is steering you in the right direction for sure. I would suggest you do your research and understand what it’s all about before starting. It will not only make starting it easier but will also give the confidence to know you’re doing the right thing for your health. I was 66 when I started and I’m fixin to turn 68 and I feel better than I have in 20 years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Who needs a book. I can tell you all you need to know. [emoji16] Just kidding. I didn’t learn to do carnivore from a book but from watching a lot of videos about it and from reading a lot of articles about it like this one. The Various Types of Carnivore Diets. (Article from Carnivore Talk) The carnivore diet is as easy as just eating meat, right? This is basically true. But if you follow some famous carnivore proponents on socail media or YouTube you may get confused. Some carnivores might be seen eating cheese or using heavy cream, and others may be caught using some herbs and spices on their food. I've spotted one drinking a diet soda, and then others boast about eating fruit and honey. So, like, what gives? What Is the Carnivore Diet? A carnivore diet is a lifestyle that consists of eating mainly animal products, such as meat, fish, and eggs. Traditionally, this diet eliminates all plant-based foods, including fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes. The thinking behind a carnivore diet is that humans evolved to eat meat and that our bodies are better adapted to digest and absorb nutrients from animal products, and that plants contain toxic self-defense chemicals that over time can harm your health, possibly being the root cause of many auto-immune disorders and chronic diseases. Different Types of Carnivore Diets The Lion Diet (Elimination Diet) - This diet consists of unprocessed ruminant flesh, usually beef, but could also include lamb, elk, etc, with salt, and only water. This is usually a zero carb carnivore diet. Many peple eat this way because they get inflammation and other physical symptoms when they eat other food. This is also a perfect way to start an elimination diet, starting with 30-90 days of Lion Diet and then slowly reintroduce foods one at a time to see how you react to them. The Standard Carnivore Diet - This is the most dogmatic and strict form of the carnivore diet, which involves consuming only water, salt, and meat, whether ruminants, poultry, pork, or seafood, including eggs and fish roe. No dairy, no seasonings, no supplements, and no plant foods are allowed. This diet is based on the premise that humans are designed to eat only animal foods, and that plant foods are harmful or unnecessary for optimal health The Nose-to-Tail Carnivore Diet - This is a more nutrient-dense version of the carnivore diet which includes any animal flesh, as well as organ meats such as liver, kidney, heart, and brain. Organ meats are rich sources of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and co-factors that are essential for various bodily functions and may prevent deficiencies that may arise from eating only muscle meats. This may often mean zero carb depending on the type of seafood and the amount of eggs. This is also sometimes called ancestral carnivore or restrictive Paleo. Any Animal Products Carnivore Diet - This slightly more flexible version of the carnivore diet includes all animal flesh and any animal byproducts that can be produced by the animal kingdom. This would include dairy products such as milk, yogurt, heavy cream, cheese, butter & ghee, as well as things like bacon, sausage, pork rinds, and deli meat. This is also sometimes called Zero Carb Carnivore by those who still avoid milk sugars and certain seafoods. Animal-based "Carnivore" Diet - Primarily animal sourced products but also allows participants to partake in some carbs found in nature, including some occasional bee honey and some fruitage that can be eaten based on seasonal availability. It's basically a mix of carnivore and Paleo. Animal-based dieters are still focused on animal consumption and avoiding plants (except their fruitage) and plant toxins with little to no regard for carbohydrate consumption. Dogmatic carnivore purists will argue that this is not "true" carnivore. Carnivorish/Ketovore Diet - This Meat-based Keto lifestyle still focuses primarily on animal products but does allow for some plant-based oils like coconut oil, olive oil, and avocado oil (the good kinds) along with the inclusion of some low carb vegetables, with the aim of limiting carb consumption to 10g (ketovore) or 20g (keto) per day. This version permits the use of some spices and herbs to enhance the flavor and variety of the meals as well. Dogmatic carnivore zealots will argue that this is not "true" carnivore. Which Carnivore or "Carnivorish" Diet is Right for Me? Rather than be dogmatic, all of the above can fall under the umbrella of what Dr. Ken Berry M.D. refers to as "The Proper Human Diet". A proper human diet is one that is all natural, uninflammatory, minimally processed, and low in carbohydrates (meaning about 100g or less per day). The key to optimizing your health is to find out where on the spectrum you fit in the best. For some this may mean being absolutely strict about being a pure carnivore and avoiding plants and fruitage altogether. For others this may mean low carb, non-starchy vegetables that have a minimal impact on insulin and glucose levels are fine. Still others may choose to eat fermented or pickled vegetables and some may enjoy some fruit, but only seasonally or sporadically. The amount and frequency with which one consumes fruit and vegetables on the carnivore or animal-based diet may vary depending on the individual’s goals, preferences, and tolerance. The key is to listen to your body and adjust accordingly. If you notice any negative effects from eating vegetables, such as bloating, gas, diarrhea, or cravings, you may want to reduce or eliminate them from your diet. So where on the spectrum are you? What kind of carnivore dieter do you tend to be? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ate pretty plain today. I was super busy and didn’t eat till late so I just scrambled up six eggs with some bacon mixed in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And you are cooking it the way it should be cooked. Light the fire, burn the beast and be happy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That’s excellent Scott. Many people don’t start experiencing that “keto hunger” until they’ve been eating this way for awhile. Keto hunger is that hunger that you barely even notice. It’s an empty belly but easy to ignore. Then when you finally eat, all you want is that fat and protein and it tastes so good. Like tomorrow, I’ll be going striper fishing and all I’ll have is my one cup of bulletproof tea in the morning and I probably won’t eat until the end of the day. I just won’t get hungry and I’ll have energy all day. I love that feeling. It’s also what allows me to look at bad foods with no desire to eat them when everyone else is eating that junk. It all might as well be a pile of manure in my eyes. On your bloodwork, be prepared for some wacky numbers. Your body is going through a transition period so your numbers may not fall into any of the percentage ranges for your area. It is usually recommended that we shouldn’t get any blood tests until we’ve been carnivore for at least six months. So just be prepared for that. If you doctor starts to freak out just let him know you’ve got it under control through diet and nutrition and it’ll work itself out in a few months or so. Don’t let him talk you into a bunch of worthless pills. But when you do get your results post them up here so we can see what they are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We are glad you joined us and glad you got started with this WOE (Way Of Eating). Will Rodgers once said, “There’s three kinds of people in this world, those who learn from watching, those who learn from reading and then there’s always that one fellow that’s just got to pee on that electric fence to find out for himself. Me? I’m the one who reads. I did my research before I jumped in. I’m also the guy who read the manual when I buy a new car. I think I know which one you are [emoji1787]. Seriously though. You’ve chosen the proper way to eat for optimal health. Bare in mind that this isn’t a diet in the conventional sense of weight loss. It’s a healing diet that is a committed lifestyle. This is all about healing your metabolism and a wonderful part of that healing process is weight loss. Anytime you got questions we will do our best to help answer them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I prefer Redmonds because it’s mined here in America rather than Tibet. I also really like Maldon’s flaked sea salt especially for topping on steaks, both the regular and the smoked. Then my special one I like for cooking is my truffle salt. It’s a sea salt with dried bites of truffles. Decadent. Stay away for table salt. Not because it’s just sodium, we need sodium, but because it has additives in it such as sugar. Yep, that’s right. Table salt has sugar in it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 Bezos Earth Fund Invests $6o Million In Centers To Improve Alternative Meats Another “philanthropist” billionaire investing millions of dollars to “fight climate change” [emoji849] Apparently, in March, Jeff Bezos pumped $60 MILLION into fake meat research. More specifically, “sustainable protein” or lab-grown meats. Bezos Earth Fund Vice Chairman Lauren Sánchez said, “We need to invent our way out of climate change” Here’s what I think… THIS IS A TRAVESTY WAITING TO HAPPEN. We cannot invent our way out of climate change. This modern-day hubris thinking we can play God and create “Frankenmeats” is only going to make things worse and come with repercussions for our health and the health of the planet. Simply put, the further away we move from nature, the more problems we get. Hippocrates once said, “Illnesses do not come upon us out of the blue. They are developed from small daily sins against Nature.” Smart guy because if we look at recent history, this notion holds true. Post-war agricultural innovations like synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, and GMOs felt like a utopian breakthrough at the time that would solve the world’s problems by creating agricultural abundance. But as we now know, this only led to devastating consequences for our health and the environment. Soil degradation, declining ecosystems, long-term health effects like cancer and biodiversity loss… Today, I fear we are about to repeat history... You have highly influential individuals like Bezos and Gates backing fake meat as a sustainable revolution, but… "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." – George Santaya Meat grown in a petri dish is NOT real meat. It’s made in cell culture in a lab. All sorts of problems can arise from meat grown in a petri dish... It’s almost certainly going to cause health issues for humans like autoimmune issues, damage to the gut and who knows what else… It’s going to have an inferior nutrient profile to meat from a cow that’s eaten grass in nature. And it’s going to be WORSE for the environment. There are multiple studies proving that lab grown meat is way harsher and more damaging to the environment in terms of total carbon footprint and energy costs. So why in the world would you eat lab-grown meat when you could just eat real, nutrient-rich meat like your ancestors have been doing for hundreds of thousands of years??? I don’t know why they are pushing this so damn hard, especially when we should be allocating this money into scaling regenerative agriculture which actually has a NET POSITIVE effect on the planet (and aligns with nature!). But fake lab meat is coming… Production has already begun. The FDA has started approving companies to begin selling this science experiment to you and your family. And you better believe guys like Bezos are gonna try and convince you that it’s better for you and the planet. Which, ladies and gentlemen, is…BOVINE EXCRIMENT! So keep eating the most sought-after foods by humans. Meat, organs, fruit, honey, raw dairy. Paul Salidino Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk