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I disagree because a keto diet is proven to be a healthy way of eating that is sustainable for a lifetime. A sugar diet is not.

It’s your health and your choice. Carnivore did not cause your heart attack. The “Heart Healthy” diet has caused more heart attacks than any kind of ketogenic lifestyle. I will never eat anything other than carnivore because it is the only true heart healthy diet in my opinion. I refuse the statins every time they are suggested.

Venison sausage, venison backstrap, lamb chop, lamb burger and three fresh eggs.

Ok all my prayer warriors I need you. Shortly before my FIL passed about a year ago we took my MIL in to live with us. She could only get around with the aid of a walker and could no longer take care of herself let alone her husband. Well in the last month or so we’ve noticed her getting weaker and last week she lost the ability to walk so she has been bedridden since then. Three days ago she lost the ability to feed herself. Since yesterday she has become disoriented and incoherent. As of today she was put on comfort meds and all other meds were stopped. So we are on death watch now. So I ask you, my carnivore family, to lift up Shirley Castor in prayer as she goes to be with her savior. We are not sad about her upcoming death. We rejoice and are happy for her as she has looked forward to sitting at the Lord’s table for a long time now. This is a wonderful woman that has been a faithful servant of the Lord her entire life and I know she has stored up treasures in because she has few down here. I love Shirley dearly as if she was my own mother and I thank my Lord for the opportunity and blessing to have been able to take her into my home and care for her in her final days. She has always been an inspiration, a mentor and a Godly example for me to follow and learn from. She is one of the biggest influences I had in my life that brought me to the cross. I am truly thankful to have known her and I am honored to be ministering to her till the end. Help send her on her way. I ask that she go peacefully and pain free. We will miss her dearly. If there is someone in your life that you love or care about, cherish them and let them know they are loved. If I Knew If I knew it would be the last time that I'd see you fall asleep, I would tuck you in more tightly and pray the Lord, for your soul to keep. If I knew it would be the last time that I see you walk out the door, I would give you a hug, and kiss, and call you back for one more. If I knew it would be the last time l'd hear your voice lifted up in praise, I would videotape each action and word, so I could play them back day after day. If I knew it would be the last time I would be there to share your day, well I'm sure you'll have so many more, so I can let this one slip away. For surely there's always tomorrow to make up for an over site, and we always get a second chance to make everything just right. There will always be another day to say "I LOVE YOU" and certainly there's another chance to say "ANYTHING I CAN DO?" But just in case I might be wrong, and today is all I get, ld like to say how much I LOVE YOU and hope we never forget. Tomorrow is not promised to anyone, young or old alike, and today may be the last chance you get to hold your loved one tight. So if you are waiting for tomorrow, why not do it today? For.... if tomorrow never comes you'll surely regret the day that you didn't take the extra time for a smile, a hug, or a kiss, and you were too busy to grant someone, what turned out to be their last wish. So hold your loved ones close today, and whisper in their ear, tell them how much you LOVE them and that you'll always hold them dear. Take time to say, "I'M SORRY, "PLEASE FORGIVE ME," "THANK YOU," or "IT'S OKAY," and if tomorrow never comes, you will feel better knowing you have done all those things you had "INTENDED TO DO" today......... Know TODAY there is someone who loves you.....

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I was starting to get disappointed that you were leaving me out, now I know it was just age discrimination. Lol. Seriously though, good summation. Go to Nick’s thread that he has going and watch the video I posted over there from Nick Norwitz. He does an excellent job of explaining the differences in the types of people who do or can do the sugar diet.

Same here. My doc wants me to get one but insurance won’t pay for it and I’m not going to pay for it out of pocket so if he wants me to get one bad enough he can pay for it. It really doesn’t matter though because it wouldn’t change anything in my life. Regardless of the results I would still keep eating the way I eat now and exercising the way I exercise now because I know the best way to treat any cardiovascular issue is to eat carnivore.

I didn’t eat all of this but I did eat about 2 pounds of it. Lamb burger, lamb chops and my last venison backstrap.

Of course it’s all derived from Big Food. They know darn well that if just half the country turned carnivore it would topple their empire. But the needn’t worry, their sugar zombies will never forsake them.

Just fry that spam up with some eggs. As carnivores we don’t eat bread unless you make a carnivore bread and if you do then try a fried spam and egg sandwich. When I was a kid I would just cut off a slice and just place it in between a slice of bread folded over with a little mayo. It doesn’t have to be cooked.

Check out this video on The Sugar Diet. Nick breaks it down scientifically and points out the pro’s and con’s very effectively.

Sally K. Norton speaks of this in her book Toxic Superfoods. As Miranda mentioned, Sally talks about slowly reducing oxalate carbs to reduce the effects of dumping. I agree with you. As your body heals it optimizes the weight.

It’s an art that takes time to learn but once you master it there is no better way to cook.

Got 12 pounds of bacon on the pit.

Welcome Nick. I’m glad you joined us. I’d be curious to know what your carnivore diet consisted of. Yes the rash could have been oxalate dumping, that seems to be the go to response in those situations but it could also have been an allergic reaction or histamine response to something. For some people who have some food sensitivities the Lion Diet is more suitable. I experienced some rashes on a couple of different occasions but mine weren’t as severe as yours sound like and mine went away after a week or two. The energy running low sounds like the classic “not getting enough fat” or “not eating enough”. While I don’t have this great burst of energy that many talk about I do have a sustained energy that allows me to goo all day. Again, without knowing how you are it’s hard to try to evaluate what might have been the issue. You seem to have a sensible mind and understanding of what is needed for a healthy diet so if you were eating a proper human diet and following carnivore correctly (that of course is relative to the individual) then it’s possible that eating a strict carnivore diet may not be right for you. Not everyone is cut out for this way of eating as their bodies do better with a little carbs in their lifestyle. For people who need some carbs in their diet we recommend that those carbs consist of whole vegetables in the form of green, above ground veggies. Stay away from starchy vegetables, seeds, seed oils and sugars except for the occasional fruit with berries being the best. Regardless of whether you call it The Sugar Diet, Fructose Diet or Fruitarian Diet, the majority of people cannot sustain a healthy life consuming large quantities of sugars or fructose. Besides risking diabetes, fatty liver disease , inflammation, cancer, fat storage and overall poor metabolic health it’s just not sustainable for the long term in my opinion. There is no nutritional requirement for carbs in our bodies and we know that all carbs consumed are metabolized as sugar or glucose in our bodies. So since that is the case it would seem to me that adding some vegetables to the diet would be better than just sugar or fructose. I personally believe that this whole sugar diet craze is nothing more than an excuse to not give into our sugar addictions. No society in the history of mankind has ever eating anything like the sugar diet so it seems pretty silly to me to start something new now. Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not judging you or what you are trying in the least, it’s just not my thing. I think it’s great when people experiment and try different things. I follow Nick Norwitz and get a kick out of his N of 1 experiments. I wish you the best of luck and look forward to hearing all about your results.

Welcome to Carnivore Talk Lee. We are glad you could join us. To start with, try to remember that we are all individuals and can have different experiences with our diet. With having different physiology's what one experiences another may not in the same manner. You are still very new into this WOE (Way Of Eating) and you may not be fully adapted yet. Some people adapt very quickly while others take some time. Most of us go through a period of lethargy while our body uses up all of the stored glycogen and transitions over to using ketones or fat for fuel. There can often be a lag in that process. In my case I never really notice a big difference right away in mood. It was a gradual thing that I noticed I just wasn’t getting as angry or worked up over little things anymore. I can’t say for sure when I noticed it as it was so gradual. My energy did pick up in about 30 days or so but nothing dramatic. I noticed that I woke up earlier and easier. I didn’t have this overwhelming desire to be constantly moving or anything but I did notice that I had a sustained energy. I could work longer with no fatigue. I can’t say that I’ve noticed any difference in mental clarity. Maybe I was never lacking to begin with. So, give it time. It may just take you longer and it may come on so gradually that you hardly notice. Just be patient. Also, don’t cheat. Cheating causes setbacks and makes your body go in reverse and have to recover. That certainly doesn’t help. Stay pure at least 90 days. BTW, I don’t know if age has anything to do with it but I suspect it may. I’m in my late 60’s so if you are younger then your experience might be totally different.

No I did not but I need to try them.

10 scrambled eggs and a couple of hearty slices of venison summer sausage.

Carb Manager seems to be a popular one.

My money is on the carnivores to win. We have the evidence on our side.

I could s**t over a six rail fence.

Been there done that. It’s hard to take sometimes Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. (Matthew 10:14, NASB)

One pound of boiled shrimp. Two pounds of crawfish. That wasn’t enough so when I got home I had some liverwurst and some pork butt.

It’s hard to say if that’s oxalates or not but I developed some splotches like that at around 4-6 months. They’d clear up and then come back in the same place a couple of months later. Mine would happen on my wrists and forearms. I just assumed it was oxalates but I don’t know. I’m two years in now and it’s been at least a year since I’ve had any rashes.

It’s how they stay in business.