Yes, the ferments are more a nutritional a gut biome thing rather than for enjoyment, although I buy tasty stuff, I have been convinced that getting right gut health is critical for visceral fat loss, mental health, auto-immune disease and so on. Since committing fully in the last two weeks, although I have had several aborted attempts earlier this year, I have already achieved so many benefits. Bloating, skin, weight loss, energy levels, sleep, general aches and pains and more all vastly better. Cardio improved without taking any more exercise. So many thanks for the welcome!! Approx 100lbs to lose. Intuitively experimenting to see how I feel and respond Cheers