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Blood glucose through the roof
Bob replied to CIO's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Maybe invest in another blood glucose meter? Those readings are considered dangerously high. Maybe. You want to see something more along the lines of 4.7 to 6.0, so something is up. The description of your diet sounds perfectly fine except for the chocolate which will contain sugar. Just how much chocolate are you eating? Whatever the answer, stop that immediately. You may have undiagnosed Type 1 Diabetes, and what you are experiencing could be diabetic-related ketoacidosis. That much glucose in your blood could indicated your body does not have enough insulin to use sugar for energy. So your body instead breaks down fat for energy, which causes your body to release ketones. Too many ketones cause your blood to turn acidic. Ketoacidosis is bad, whereas ketosis is good. They are 2 different things. The high blood sugar could indicate the former. It can be caused by chronic alcoholism, starvation, or an overactive thyroid too. Your body should not allow you to have that much glucose in your blood. Your pancrease should respond by releasing insuling to either move it into the cells to be used as energy, or converted to fat for later use. I don't want to alarm you. There are usually symptoms that you would experience but you say you feel fine. But I would go see your doctor and get some blood work done. This can't be diet related at all, even if your one meal a day was 2 pounds of chocolate.- 11 replies
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Blood glucose through the roof
Bob replied to CIO's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
If the conversion on this table is correct, 15 mmol/L is equivalent to 270 mg/dl and 24 translates to 432. Yes, those numbers are crazy high. When do you take these readings? If you take a reading after a meal, or as soon as you wake up, your numbers will be elevated. I would be curious what your number would be if after finishing your dinner, you did not eat again for 3-4 hours before bed, slept a good nights sleep, woke up and did not have anything but water for the first 2 hours, and THEN check it and see what it is. We want to know what it is in a fasted state and not influenced by the "dawn phenomenon" that Geoff mentioned above. Are you diabetic? Are you taking insulin? If you are and have been, are you still taking your insulin or other diabetes medications? Some people make the mistake of dropping their meds as soon as they start, and this is no good. The healing takes time. Learn to like it, lol. Your fish would be better if it was fatty fish, like salmon. Your chicken would be better if it was dark meat, and make sure you eat the skin. But in reality, fatty red meat and eggs with the yolks should be the staple of your carnivore. The macros of fat and protein are usually already in their proper portions when it comes to ruminant meat. Get some ground 80/20 ground beef or 73/27 and try to avoid draining the fat, or at least too much of the fat, or replace it with butter. Butter everything. If you are not eating carbs, AND you are not eating enough fat, then generally speaking your body will use the protein to produce it's own glucose. But even still it should not be enough to send your numbers that sky high.- 11 replies
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Nice. That's a new upload. I will have to watch it later. Here is one from a couple years ago that was really good....
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What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Last night we went out for a seafood boil. I had a lobster tail, snow crab legs, and shrimp. For an appetizer, I had 6 raw oysters. It was an Omega-3 night, lol. They bring it out in a plastic bag so it wasn't very photogenic or else I would have snapped a pic.- 1,369 replies
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Strong Medicine by Dr. Blake Donaldson, MD [Files Library]
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I actually did some reading in this book this morning. And it's very fascinating. For example... "No one knew then, and as far as I know, no one knows with certainty now. Some patients can lose weight while eating 2 lbs of meat at each meal, three times a day. It depends on the individual. Some can eat much more than others, and not gain. We heard of a woman down in Tierra del Fuego who, if she could get it, could demolish a whole 12 LB goose at one sitting. Eskimos gorge themselves on walrus meat after a successful hunt, and yet the Eskimo is rarely obese. He has the biological trait of a fat looking face, and this, with his bulky clothes, gives a mistaken impression of his body weight. Our old time trappers and the West devoured enormous quantities of Buffalo hump and tongue and still kept lean. There may be an upper level of meat intake where no one can lose, but I have never found it." This is similar to Dr. Ken Berry's claim that you can eat all the beef, butter, bacon, and eggs you want and try as you may, you won't gain weight. There are also some carnivores claiming to eat 5000 calories or more a day of nothing but fatty meat. My weight fluctuates a few pounds, which I think is normal. I've never set out to challenge the idea by gorging myself on meat, lol. Another interesting quote follows. You've heard me say on here and in Dr. Kiltz's Mighty Tribe that when I eliminated dairy and started skimping on the fat, I suffered from diarrhea. But when I added back butter, started eating the animal fat, and reintroduced cheese, my stools returned to normal. Well, check out this quote.... "Then Andersen was put on just the meat he liked and Stefansson, to his alarm, was put on only the leanest meat possible to obtain. This was because DuBois had been told of a previous experience to Stefansson had had in the Arctic. The fall migration of Caribou had been missed. The animals on their return in the spring had exhausted their supply of fat. In spite of the caches groaning with lean meat starvation stalked the camp. Weakness, protuberant abdomens, and diarrhea developed. Access to fat saved their lives. This report had likewise been greeted with skepticism, so Stefansson was asked to start off the experiment with lean meat alone. Within two days he had diarrhea and a feeling of baffling and discomfort. Allowing him to eat fat again cleared up the symptoms in three days, and the experiment went on." The experiences of Stefansson mirrors my own almost exactly. And then for a little humor.... "It's a strange fact that even if a patient's life is imperiled by overweight their loving kin will continue to stuff them with lethal tidbits, if they can get away with it." So true, lol- 3 replies
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What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
I'm a simple man, lol. A little seasoning and a sprinkle of shredded cheese and this was my breakfast.- 1,369 replies
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I'm gaining weight!
Bob replied to Steven2023's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
High school weight (senior year) can be a good goal, IF you were not overweight in high school. Sometimes I was, and sometimes I wasn't. I can remember being a chunky kid, and leaning towards the obese in junior high. The first time I dieted was in 8th grade, by eliminating diet coke and candy. I really took control of my health in my between my junior and senior years though, because for some reason, out of the blue, I suddenly gained some popularity and attention from girls. After high school I fattened up again. Then in 1996 when I was 20, I read Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution and took it all back off, and even got down to my lowest of 162. I am currently 175 which was my initial goal. I now look at 165 as my new goal but I am honestly happy with where I am at so I am not working too hard anymore. I'm just enjoying my healthy 90/7/3 (carnivore/ketovore/animal-based) life. But in early 2024 I think I am going to double down on my efforts and go strict, maybe even lion diet for 30 days or more. I do think that I am stronger and maybe have more muscle today than I did as a high school senior, from the little working out that I do, and lifting heavy things as part of the tile trade that I work in. Since muscle weights more than fat, getting as low as my exact high school weight might actually translate to less fat than I had then. Today's 170 might be the equivalent of 18 year old me's 165. -
View File Strong Medicine by Dr. Blake Donaldson, MD A doctor’s successful fight against two of mankind’s most common afflictions—overweight, with its six attendant dangerous diseases, and allergy. Dr. Donaldson went to medical school in the late 1800s and practiced medicine in New York until the mid-1900s. First published in 1961, Strong Medicine by Dr. Blake F. Donaldson is a diet book supporting a meat-only diet. Dr. Donaldson had very good success treating overweight people with a diet where up to 24oz. of fatty meat was prescribed daily. His general recommendation was 6 oz of lean meat combined with 2 oz of visible fat three times per day from ruminant animals only, such as lamb or beef. His philosophy comes from the idea: “During the millions of years that our ancestors lived by hunting, every weakling who could not maintain perfect health on fresh fat meat and water was bred out.” A fascinating read for anyone interested in diet and health! Submitter Bob Submitted 12/30/2023 Category Books
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A doctor’s successful fight against two of mankind’s most common afflictions—overweight, with its six attendant dangerous diseases, and allergy. Dr. Donaldson went to medical school in the late 1800s and practiced medicine in New York until the mid-1900s. First published in 1961, Strong Medicine by Dr. Blake F. Donaldson is a diet book supporting a meat-only diet. Dr. Donaldson had very good success treating overweight people with a diet where up to 24oz. of fatty meat was prescribed daily. His general recommendation was 6 oz of lean meat combined with 2 oz of visible fat three times per day from ruminant animals only, such as lamb or beef. His philosophy comes from the idea: “During the millions of years that our ancestors lived by hunting, every weakling who could not maintain perfect health on fresh fat meat and water was bred out.” A fascinating read for anyone interested in diet and health!-
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This is the 25th edition of the book that was originally publishes in the 1880's by Elma Stuart. The book is about Elma’s personal experience of curing her chronic diseases by adopting a diet of only meat and water as prescribed by Dr. James Henry Salisbury. It was observed to help everything from diabetes to epilepsy to rheumatism to gout to migraines to insomnia to asthma to cancer. Elma was bedridden for 9 years with what today would be labeled Fibromyalgia or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. She went to 43 doctors but none of their recommendations ever did anything for her. She then learned about Dr. Salisbury’s diet through an ad in her local newspaper and ordered his book, The Relation of Alimentation and Disease. Elma says it took her about a year on Dr. Salisbury’s all-meat diet to regain her health. She continued to eat nothing but meat and hot water for over a decade by the time this edition was published. -
View File What Must I Do to Get Well? by Elma Stuart This is the 25th edition of the book that was originally publishes in the 1880's by Elma Stuart. The book is about Elma’s personal experience of curing her chronic diseases by adopting a diet of only meat and water as prescribed by Dr. James Henry Salisbury. It was observed to help everything from diabetes to epilepsy to rheumatism to gout to migraines to insomnia to asthma to cancer. Elma was bedridden for 9 years with what today would be labeled Fibromyalgia or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. She went to 43 doctors but none of their recommendations ever did anything for her. She then learned about Dr. Salisbury’s diet through an ad in her local newspaper and ordered his book, The Relation of Alimentation and Disease. Elma says it took her about a year on Dr. Salisbury’s all-meat diet to regain her health. She continued to eat nothing but meat and hot water for over a decade by the time this edition was published. Submitter Bob Submitted 12/30/2023 Category Books
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Weight and the Scale
Bob replied to Angela Little's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
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I'm gaining weight!
Bob replied to Steven2023's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
There is admittedly some mixed signals when it comes to calories. When someone is starting out, we don't want them fixated on calories. Just eat a proper human diet, 3 meals a day until you are comfortably stuffed (but not painfully stuffed) with no snacking in-between. In time, your proper hunger signals will start working properly. With carnivore or strict keto, the food you eat is satiating. Before long, you might quite naturally and without much effort move into an intermittent fasting eating schedule, eating the same amount of food, or just about, across 2 meals instead of three. This gives your body more time to break down and use up those nutrients and energy. But calories is still a metric that can be referenced. For example, I am 2 meals a day. This works for me most of the time but I occasionally have a major hunger day and I will have a big breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and I might be heavier on the scale the next day as a result. If I have thirsty days and drink a lot, same thing. If I eat and then go to sleep, definitely. My weight has been oscillating rather wildly between 174 and 177 for the last month+ and my progress has stalled. I've stalled before and I know just to wait it out. If I get tired of waiting I will do an extended fast. Currently I think I am stalling because it's the dark days of winter and I am not as active as I usually am. BUT... one thing I do notice is that even during a stall I might drop a notch on my belt, etc. I think that when stalls are happening, the body is working on other things such as healing and body recomposition. Then, when those tasks are done, it returns to weight loss and I will have another sudden drop. And that is they way it is for me. Drop. Stop. Drop. Stop. Slight gain. Stop. Drop. Up. Down. Down. Up. Plateau. Down. Up. lol -
What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
I personally haven't... yet. But I have only just recently started making and using chaffles. A quick web search though says they can be stored in the fridge up to 5 days, and can be frozen as well... https://www.bing.com/search?q=refridgerate+or+freeze+chaffles- 1,369 replies
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What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
You could do a no-bun burger, with a patty on the bottom, topped with bacon, and an over-easy egg on top. The beef pattie can be used to wipe up the valuable yolk as it runs after breaking into it. Add some salt, seasoning, or cheese to taste. Alternatively, you could make a "power bowl". Cook your bacon and break it into smaller pieces ahead of time. Chop up the ground beef like you were going to make tacos. Don't drain the beef fat but add the bacon and some eggs into the mix and start stirring it around so everything gets mixed together. Salt and season or cheese to taste. Wrap any of the above in a large lettuce leaf and you will still be keto. Then you might be able to pick it up with your hands and add a little avacado mayo.- 1,369 replies
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Other sausage makers/grinders?
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Welcome aboard @drysideshooter - It's a pleasure to meet you. I have Dr. Baker's book sitting right here (The Carnivore Diet) but I haven't read it yet. Dr. Berry was my introduction to carnivore. Since then, I have read his book "Lies My Doctor Told Me" which is a good read. I'm currently trying out Audible. It's nice in that it helps me consume books, but then I want the physical copy because I can't go back and reference something because I have no idea what the timestamp was when I heard it, lol. I just finished this on Audible. It was an amazing book. I also just finished "Kicking Ass After 50" by Ken Berry and Zane Griggs. It was also fantastic. This one was neat because the Audible version has a lot of supplementary dialog between Ken and Zane that isn't in the written copy. And today I started on "Brain Energy".
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I didn't go out in December, so I didn't have my shot of bourbon on the first Tuesday of this month. This depends on how much alcohol you had. But the video is right. In fact, the body will metabolize alcohol for energy even before carbohydrates. I don't know how long it takes to metabolize the alcohol and return to ketosis. Probably at least as long as you are feeling it's effects, and probably a little longer.
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What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
If it was a chicken breast, those are definitely drier than the dark meat. You have to cook it until there is no raw in the middle and then pull it immediately. Keep it on too long and it dries out. Oh wow does that look fantastic!- 1,369 replies
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Do You Eat Meat and Meat Products Everyday?
Bob replied to Nomad's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Yes, I completely agree. It was the same with me. I was a yo-yo dieter, on and off keto for most of my adult life. Then as new medical issues and conditions started to pop up, that's when I knew I had to make a change and make it permanent, and hope it wasn't "too late". Fortunately, besides my kidneys, everything else has gone away almost like magic. -
What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
I've lost 50 lbs and am down to my last 10. And boy are they not wanting to let go, lol. So I understand I like Carb Manager (and before that I used LoseIt). I get lazy about tracking after a while because my eating pattern and what I eat is pretty consistent from day to day, so it gets redundant, lol.- 1,369 replies
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Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
That's awesome! I've never been able to count my abs. Just my flab, lol- 1,369 replies
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