Everything posted by Bob
- Do you have an accountability partner?
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Flouride - Friend or Foe?
Well if you were concerned about fluoride, there are several fluoride-free toothpastes you could choose... https://www.insider.com/guides/health/best-fluoride-free-toothpaste And of course, there is the good ole traditional baking soda and peroxide method that people use to use for years and years.
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Erythritol - The Good and the Bad
I wholeheartedly agree with you @Geezy. I put a little sweetener in my morning tea, although I could probably omit this if I wanted and still drink it. I also still drink diet soda, although I have switched from Diet Coke to Zevia because the Zevia is much cleaner, or "less bad" as Dr. Berry would say 🙂
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Is Public smoking wrong?
I smoked for 7 years, from 1993 to 2000. For a while I still enjoyed the smell but now I despise it. If cigarettes were to become illegal, it wouldn't break my heart any. But... Whatever the law of the land is or whatever the policies of a private property are should be honored and respected. If it's legal, then the answer is no. If it's not legal, or violates the policy of the private property, then sure. Here in Ohio there used to be "smoking sections" inside restaurants and fast food locations, but in the mid-late 90's that became illegal and now there is NO indoor smoking permitted anywhere. I do think this was a good move
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Which sport are you good at?
I played soccer in elementary school and junior high, and then I lost interest in most sports. I'm 48 now and it's rare that I play any sport unless I am entertaining younger kids in the family. I'm 5'8" also. I too did a lot of bowling, was even on leagues, back in my younger years. Never had a 300 game though. Got close a couple times.
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Summer or winter?
I'm in Ohio. It's below freezing. There is snow on the ground. It sucks! lol. I will take 90 degrees, the hot sun, and my backyard pool over this hibernation weather every time.
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Did the G.O.A.T debate end at the World Cup?
You must be from overseas. I'm in Ohio, USA and here football is a totally different sport. What you call football, we refer to as soccer. I played soccer in school, but I don't follow soccer or many sports at all actually in my adult life.
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Henry joins.
Welcome to Carnivore Talk, @Henrywrites We're a community of individuals who believe in the health benefits of a carnivore diet lifestyle. We get along with meat-based keto and animal-based dieters as well. There's a lot to learn and as you do it really begins to make sense. If you're looking to lose weight, reverse disease, or optimize your health, we're here to help.
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Erythritol - The Good and the Bad
You probably burst into the bathroom like this.... I've had my fair share of volcanic gut activity due to sugar alcohols too, lol. Most recently I made some of "Dr. Kiltz's Carnivore Icre Cream" but I wanted to sweeten it up a bit. I used erythritol. ... too much erythritol, lol.
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Erythritol - The Good and the Bad
Erythritol is a sugar substitute that doesn't affect blood sugar. What to know. Story by Daryl Austin, USA TODAY When it comes to beverages, sweeter is often thought to be better. Whether it's with soda, smoothies or coffee, people work to ensure their favorite beverage is more palatable and enjoyable by balancing out any bitter taste with sweet additives. Sugar in the form of fructose, sucrose, sucralose, dextrose, honey, corn syrup or as a grain or cube remains the most popular way to sweeten a drink, but there exist a host of artificial options on the other side as well. Among them is erythritol − one of the most common artificial sweeteners available, according to the Cleveland Clinic. What is erythritol? Erythritol is a popular sugar substitute that's used in various foods and beverages and is available in both powder and liquid form. Along with maltitol, sorbitol, and xylitol, erythritol is known as a sugar alcohol − a type of carbohydrate that has a similar chemical structure to sugar. Despite their name, sugar alcohols are neither sugar nor alcohol. Erythritol naturally occurs in some fruits and fermented foods, "but the erythritol used as a sugar substitute is typically produced synthetically through a process that involves fermenting glucose derived from sources like wheat or corn starch," explains Jen Messer, a nutrition consultant and registered dietitian at Jen Messer Nutrition. Erythritol also occurs naturally in our bodies as part of normal metabolism, "but at levels much lower than the doses of erythritol synthesized commercially and used in packaged foods," says John DiBaise, MD, a physician in the Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology at Mayo Clinic in Arizona. Is erythritol good or bad for you? In addition to being an effective sweetener, erythritol is also sometimes marketed as a weight loss tool, though DiBaise says such marketing efforts may be overstated or misleading in some cases. Still, the organic compound does have some potential advantages over its sugar counterpart. Messer says such benefits include that erythritol has a negligible effect on blood sugar and insulin levels which makes it suitable for people with diabetes and those managing their blood sugar. It also doesn't promote tooth decay because oral bacteria cannot metabolize it effectively. Erythritol also retains its sweetness and stability at high temperatures, which makes it one of the best sugar alcohols to use for baking and cooking. And it is very low in calories compared to regular sugar. "It contains about 0.2 calories per gram, which is approximately 5% of the calories found in an equivalent amount of sugar," Messer explains. This can be helpful for individuals managing their body weight and seeking to reduce their caloric intake. Is erythritol safer than sugar? Because of such advantages, it would be easy to assume that erythritol is better than sugar, but the experts say that may not be so. For one thing, erythritol is only about "60-70% as sweet as sugar," says Messer. And while it's considered safe to consume, erythritol can cause numerous negative side effects. Frequent consumption of the compound can lead to digestive problems "such as bloating, gas and diarrhea - though it varies for every individual," says Lisa Young, PhD, RDN, an adjunct professor of nutrition at New York University and author of "Finally Full, Finally Slim." She adds that depending on one's sensitivity to sugar alcohols, "high consumption can also cause severe nausea, which can cause your body to become dehydrated." Because of these and other potential health complications, Young says she is "not a fan" of the sweetener for everyone, especially for those gastrointestinal issues. DiBaise echoes similar advice, even in users more broadly. "Caution and moderation should be given when consuming foods containing erythritol," he says. This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Erythritol is a sugar substitute that doesn't affect blood sugar. What to know. ------------------- Article Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/erythritol-is-a-sugar-substitute-that-doesn-t-affect-blood-sugar-what-to-know/ar-AA1gjHTV
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What's fer supper!
Forgive me carnivore-father for I hath sinned, lol. Last night my family wanted to go to their favorite Mexican place. Trying to eat carnivore there is pretty miserable, so I just revert to keto and get a grilled steak salad and some shrimp. The salad will have grilled fajita vegetables, tomatoes, cucumber, and avocado. I'm generally okay with all that but I do imagine the fajita veggies and steak are probably cooked with a seed oil. Anyway, we only end up here about once every 2 months, so I'll live. I am up one pound this morning, though.
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Sorry vegans, a major health organization says meat, eggs and milk are vital sources of much-needed nutrients
They can't help but to talk out both sides of their mouth. "Studies show red meat is safe and healthy".... (2 seconds later).... "Limit or minimize your red meat intake" lol. Sometimes I think it comes down to 'please don't eat the cute ones' lol 😄
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Sorry vegans, a major health organization says meat, eggs and milk are vital sources of much-needed nutrients
Sorry vegans, a major health organization says meat, eggs and milk are vital sources of 'much-needed nutrients' Story by L'Oreal Thompson Payton A new report from the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) has determined that meat, eggs and milk are vital sources of much-needed nutrients, such as proteins, fats and carbohydrates, that aren’t easily found in plant-based foods. Nutrients found in eggs and other animal food sources are especially critical for children, pregnant people and older adults.© Tanja Ivanova—Getty Images The comprehensive study, which is based on data from more than 500 scientific papers and 240 policy documents, also stated that these nutrients are critical during key life stages, such as pregnancy and lactation, childhood, adolescence and older age. “Nutrient needs of humans vary substantially over their life course. While there are a variety of dietary patterns that can meet those needs, foods that are rich in nutrients are a critical part of a healthy diet,” FAO Deputy Director-General Maria Helena Semedo and Chief Economist Máximo Torero Cullen wrote in a foreword to the report. “Terrestrial animal source foods provide energy and many essential nutrients, such as protein, fatty acids and several vitamins and minerals that are less common in other food types.” Health benefits of eating animal source foods Some of the crucial nutrients found in animal sources include: High-quality protein, which is necessary for increasing muscle mass Essential fatty-acids, which help with cognition, neurodevelopment and ant-iinflammatory processes Iron, which prevents iron deficiency anemia Calcium, which contributes to bone health Zinc, which supports vital functions in growth, development and immunity Selenium, which is anti-inflammatory and supports genome-level processes Vitamin B12 for neurodevelopment and cell formation Choline for growth, brain function and gene interactions Bioactive compounds such as carnitine, creatine and taurine that promote good health However, not all meats are created equally. The study mentioned that eating even low levels of processed red meat, such as bacon, sausage, hot dogs and deli meats, can increase the risk of mortality and chronic disease outcomes, including cardiovascular diseases and colorectal cancer. Consuming unprocessed red meat, such as beef, pork and lamb, in moderate amounts (between 9 to 71 grams per day), carries minimal risk, but is generally considered safe as it pertains to chronic disease outcomes. Additionally, the report noted that “the evidence of any links between milk, eggs and poultry consumption in healthy adults and diseases such as coronary heart disease, strokes and hypertension is inconclusive (for milk) or non-significant (for eggs and poultry).” The bigger picture Food from animal sources are deemed part of a healthy diet and can go a long way toward achieving FAO’s Sustainable Development Goals, such as reducing wasting among children under five years of age, low birthweight, anemia in women of reproductive age, and obesity and non-communicable diseases in adults. In the report, Semedo and Cullen also wrote that the livestock sector “must contribute to addressing a range of challenges,” including environmental issues; herd management; animal health related issues; human-livestock related issues; and social issues. This story was originally featured on Fortune.com Article Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/sorry-vegans-a-major-health-organization-says-meat-eggs-and-milk-are-vital-sources-of-much-needed-nutrients/ar-AA1aVtlW
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What is your favorite way to eat/prepare eggs?
Interesting. I'll have to try this steaming method. I've always just put them in boiling water. I'm fine with an egg over-medium with some runny yolk. Over easy or other less-than-fully-cooked methods not so much. I've never had a soft-boiled egg. The thought of a cold, not quite hard boiled egg with some runny yolk sounds gross to me, lol. But hey, maybe I would enjoy it.
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Should I take supplements?
Geoff is correct here, Matan. If you are eating primarily fatty ruminant meat and eggs, you are getting everything you need. You could take an omega-3 supplement, but it would be better to add fatty fish like salmon or sardines once a week. I wouldn't worry about the omega-6 but you can get a little extra with some pork or poultry. And rather than taking a multivitamin, have some beef liver. In short, most supplements like the ones you mentioned aren't going to harm or hinder you. At worst you might just be wasting your money. I supplement with D3, Omega-3, CoQ10, Niacin and magnesium, because of my kidney disease I struggle to maintain those in their proper balance. I looked this up just now. According to this published study creatine and B12 were beneficial, but you are getting loads of both of those on your carnivore diet. Hopefully with time, those issues either alleviate or resolve. You may notice a difference after 90 or 180 days. Let's hope so with eagerness 🙂
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Just starting today!
That's pretty cool. So-called "processed" meats (I don't think of centuries old curing as a "processed" food) can stir up some debate among dogmatic carnivores, lol. Being able to control the ingredients is great. Especially since at the supermarket, anything sugar free is considered a novelty and costs more than the meats slightly laced with sugar or starch. I'm pretty processed meat dependent for my lunch packings. I want to get a small microwave to for my truck/trailer so I can heat up food that I have prepared myself.
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Just starting today!
Welcome aboard Steven! We're glad to have you here! Yes, if you did Atkins with success, you should do well with carnivore. Carnivore builds on the principles that Atkins taught, namely, to keep your carbohydrate intake low enough to enter ketosis and burn fat for energy instead of carbohydrates. Probably the benefit of carnivore is that you don't necessarily have to track anything because it's naturally going to be zero carb, trace carb, or low carb, since you are just eating meat and eggs and maybe some cheese. A lot of us like it over other ketogenic diets for it's simplicity. We're not constantly trying to come up with fancy recipes and dishes that emulate foods that we can't have any longer. We just thow some meat on the fire, lol.
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What is your favorite way to eat/prepare eggs?
Hey @Steven2023 - thanks for sharing. I would have never imagined there was an art to scrambling eggs, lol. I usually butter or tallow my pan, get 'er done, and salt and season afterwards. Next time I am going to try the extra yolk and salting the mix first and letting it sit for 15 minutes. I would have never thought of that.
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The Oxylate Content of Food (List) [Files Library]
Neither have I. It makes me wonder what self-defense chemicals Paul Saladino is referring to when he says that plants don't pump as much into their fruit because plants actually want you to eat their fruit, whereas they defend their leaves, stems, and roots. But then again, a lot of what I see Saladino eating fruitwise is things on the "low in oxylates" table on that list.
- Do you remain faithful and on plan, or do you cheat during the holidays?
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The Oxylate Content of Food (List)
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The oxalate content of food can vary considerably between plants of the same species, due to differences in climate, soil quality, state of ripeness, or even which part of the plant is analyzed. Variations also may be caused by the different methods used for measuring oxalate in food. Published values for some foods can vary from negligible amounts to moderately high. In addition, the soluble oxalate content of a food may influence the amount of oxalate absorbed by the intestine much more than the insoluble part, so foods that have a modest total oxalate content should still be limited because of the relatively high amount of soluble oxalate present. In the tables below, the foods have been grouped according to their soluble and / or total oxalate content and the relative risk that they pose to those who need to limit dietary oxalate. In using these tables, it is very important to pay attention to the serving sizes listed . These food tables were compiled using the most up to date information available as of Feb 2003. They may be grouped differently to that of other oxalate food lists, because they are based on more recent data. -
The Oxylate Content of Food (List) [Files Library]
View File The Oxylate Content of Food (List) The oxalate content of food can vary considerably between plants of the same species, due to differences in climate, soil quality, state of ripeness, or even which part of the plant is analyzed. Variations also may be caused by the different methods used for measuring oxalate in food. Published values for some foods can vary from negligible amounts to moderately high. In addition, the soluble oxalate content of a food may influence the amount of oxalate absorbed by the intestine much more than the insoluble part, so foods that have a modest total oxalate content should still be limited because of the relatively high amount of soluble oxalate present. In the tables below, the foods have been grouped according to their soluble and / or total oxalate content and the relative risk that they pose to those who need to limit dietary oxalate. In using these tables, it is very important to pay attention to the serving sizes listed . These food tables were compiled using the most up to date information available as of Feb 2003. They may be grouped differently to that of other oxalate food lists, because they are based on more recent data. Submitter Bob Submitted 11/24/2023 Category Quick Reference Charts
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Do you remain faithful and on plan, or do you cheat during the holidays?
In several locations around the world it's what is often referred to as 'the holiday season'. Here in the USA, you may have previously been caught in the autumn trap of all the delicious meals, treats, and overdrinking of Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's Eve, only to kerplop into the new year heavier than ever, with yet another resolution to hit the gym and take off the weight. Now most people who do the keto or carnivore diet correctly have built up a strong resilience to any cravings or temptations. And that's fantastic. But the holiday's add on an extra burden for many - peer pressure and tradition - and many who had been previously eating right get derailed, sometimes for weeks and months, once they slip up and have some pumpkin pie, cookies, or sweet potatoes, or whatever. How about you? Are you staying true to your good health convictions? Or did/do you allow yourself to veer off plan on these occasions?
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Do You Eat Meat and Meat Products Everyday?
Currently I eat meat exclusively on most days. Maybe once a month, I and the guy that works for me will go out for lunch together and he likes Chipotle so we will go there and I will have a salad with double meat and none of the starchy carby bits. I usually make dinner, which means the wife gets the same meat I do. Every once in a while she wants a side of steamed broccoli or asparagus or brussel sprouts, and I will have a small side of those as well. For these very rare occasions, I call myself "mostly carnivore" or "97% carnivore". I rarely eat off plan, and if I am gonna "cheat", I cheat with keto or something 100% found in nature. I'm not averse to plants mainly because I have zero reactions to them. But for now, I choose to stay away from them.