Lynn D

They need a new category. [emoji16]


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Gotta be animal, vegetable or mineral. 😁
https://www.honeybeesuite.com/are-bees-insects-or-animals/

Hello Ruth, welcome aboard. 😊 It's wonderful the Carnivore way of eating is providing you such lovely benefits.
As Bob said, milk and honey will kick you out of Ketosis, and can definitely halt weight loss (if weight loss is one of your goals). Regardless of the fact that it is an animal product, honey is straight up SUGAR (primarily glucose and fructose) with +/- 17 grams of carbs per tablespoon.  Many dairy products are surprisingly high in carbs (fresh, "wet" items like milk, yoghurt, kefir, cottage cheese and ricotta average 8 to 12 grams of carbohydrate per cup). When I eat carbs in any form I get puffy and squishy, head to toe. They also jack my blood sugar, and it takes hours to normalize. One day I hope to be metabolically healthy again...
I love ghee, butter, cream, and full-fat cheeses like Brie, and they are basically zero carbohydrate foods - although I find them very easy to overeat.  👀
Without question I FEEL BETTER on a near-zero carb diet, but I also look better, if that matters to you. (It does matter a bit to me, oh vanity! 😖)
Bob posted an excellent graphic, circles within circles, Keto to Lion Diet. I couldn't find it - maybe he can repost it here? 🙂 
Health to you. 🥰
LynnD

Not vanity Lynn! Ive noticed a huge correlation in how my body looks and how it feels! I originally started carnivore to fix some mental health things and it has definitely helped with that. The weight loss was a plus. 
 
bob, thanks for the break down! That makes total sense with everything ive heard. This year I’m really trying to focus on physical and mental health and i was researching the effects of honey on mental health but if its going to totally wreck my carnivore diet, i might have to forego it and just do a loooot of meditating 😂

Welcome aboard Ruth @Lizalizard

Awesome. Get back on board and stick with it. 🙂
This is always a difficult question to answer. I guess technically it is an animal product. But your next question kinda throws a wrench into things....
Yes it will. Honey is full of sugar and carbs, and even a small amount will kick you out of ketosis until you have used those carbs up. If being in ketosis is your goal, for the sake of losing weight or reversing/curing a health issue, then you will want to stay away from honey. If you are metabolically healthy and happy with your weight, a little honey isn't going to do you any harm.
Yes, milk has 8g of sugar (lactose) per cup. Like honey, this will bump you out of ketosis for a while, depending on how much you drink.
Those of us who are trying to do a ketogenic form of a carnivore/animal-based diet will avoid milk and honey. 
 

Thank you, Quinton. 🙏🏼 

Thank you, Quinton. 🙏🏼 

Your kidneys are perfect. Your kidney function is based on your creatinine value which is 0.73 which is perfect. BUN means very little. For peace of mind watch this from 4:00 mark:
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Also, your lipid panel is amazing as well. Your HDL is greater than your trigs which is what you want. I understand your concern, but there are people with labs like 10x worse who are still trucking along just fine. Everything looks really good.

Bone Health And Diet: Researchers Say Vegetarians At 50% Higher Risk Of Hip Fracture
By Suneeta Sunny   A recent study has found that vegetarians are at 50% increased risk of hip fracture. MICROSOFT   A healthy diet and lifestyle habit is essential for bone strength. However, a new study has found that a vegetarian diet, even though considered beneficial for preventing several diseases such as cancer, blood pressure and diabetes, can lead to an increased risk of hip fracture in both men and women.
Studies have shown that vegetarian women were at an increased risk of hip fracture, although the exact reasons were not known. Since the studies evaluating the impact of a vegetarian diet on men's bone strength were inconclusive and small-scale, a team from the University of Leeds, the U.K., decided to conduct a large-scale study.
The researchers evaluated 413,914 participants from a UK Biobank project and collected details of their diet. The participants were classified as regular meat eaters (who ate meat five or more times a week), occasional meat eaters(who ate less than five times a week), pescatarians (who ate fish but not meat) and vegetarians (who consumed dairy products). There were 3,503 cases of hip fracture in them.
The risk of hip fractures in vegetarians was 50% higher, while pescatarians had a slightly greater risk (8%) than regular meat eaters.
"Hip fractures are a growing problem in an aging society, and can trigger debilitating health conditions and a loss of quality of life," study lead James Webster, a doctoral researcher in the School of Food Science and Nutrition, said in a news release.
However, the study does not undermine the overall health benefit of a vegetarian diet.
"The health benefits of a vegetarian diet, including a lower risk of cancer and cardiovascular disease, may still outweigh any increases in hip fracture risk. This study shows that whilst vegetarians face a greater risk of hip fracture than meat eaters – at 50% – this translates to just 3 more hip fractures per 1000 people over 10 years," Webster said.
Researchers believe that despite the benefits of a vegetarian diet, the chances of not getting adequate protein from food may be the reason for decreased bone strength.
"Our analysis suggests that low BMI may be a key factor in why their risk is higher. Additionally, vegetarians were about 17% less likely to meet protein recommendations than meat eaters. So, important messages from our study are that vegetarians need to ensure they are getting a balanced diet with enough protein and maintain a healthy BMI. This will help vegetarians to maintain healthy bones and muscles," Webster added.
Published by Medicaldaily.com   ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.medicaldaily.com/bone-health-diet-researchers-say-vegetarians-50-higher-risk-hip-fracture-470604?utm_source=pocket_saves

Then you haven’t seen many of my posts, Lol!

I eat lamb several times a week. In fact I’ll be cooking some lamb steaks this evening. I love lamb so much I raise my own to eat.

Glad to see others that like it also.


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Research, research, research.
Read about carnivore and come to a complete understanding about how to do it and how it works in your body. Then, understand how your body functions in regards to how glycogen and fats work on your metabolic health.
Get on utube and follow the carnivore doctors such as Ken Berry, Shawn Baker, Anthony Chaffee. They, and others of their ilk can help you get started down the right path. Then there are numerous utube carnivore influencers that share their stories, successes, failures, tips and methods to help you stay motivated and knowledgeable. Immerse yourself in the knowledge available to you.
Carnivore is not a magic bullet. Carnivore is not a diet. Carnivore is a way of eating which enables your body to undo years of metabolic damage, abuse from calorie restricted diets, and metabolic disregulation. Carnivore is primarily about health and healing.
Yes- it is true that the weight will come off. But! It will do it when it wants to. For some people it happens fast, for others slow because we are all different.


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That's beautiful. The creatinine is being cleared by your kidneys and not accumulating in your blood. This is what we want to see... in general. A carnivore diet or lifting weights will increase creatinine production, so you may see a little accumulation on your next labs.
This is also expected. You will produce more urea nitrogen from a high protein diet.
The ratio is a simple math formula -> 25 BUN divided by .73 creatinine = 34
Good plan. Your creatinine and BUN may go up due to protein consumption and exercise, but there are other ways to check kidney function should your anxiety get the best of you. And then remember that scientific research in the low carb and keto space has a differing opinion (backed by research) on cholesterol and LDL than the mainstream.

Hi Bob.
Creatinine was 0.73  (reference range 0.57 to 1.00) so that seems fine.
BUN of 25, ref. range 6 to 24;  so it's "high" but not disastrously so.
BUN/Creatinine Ratio of 34 is quite elevated (ref. range 9 to 23). My Dad's disease came with glomerulonephritis, and his Ratio was always high. 😖
We are only ten days into Carnivore WOE, and we plan to re-test every three months. In the meantime I'll try to contain my anxiety about the kidney and lipid panel results and concentrate on eating the Proper Human Diet. 🥩🥩🥩
🙏🏼 LynnD 

Be aware Lynn that it can take a year or longer for your blood markers to stabilize on the carnivore WOE. As your body is transitioning to a meat based diet things can get a little wacky but it’s all good. Your present numbers look fine to me.
Also remember this, the numbers that doctor’s use to determine high or low are just an average comparison of people across a percentage of the population. These people are all people who are eating the SAD so in reality, there is no baseline to judge you by.
Your numbers need to be compared to other people who eat the same way you do.


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Oh, that chart is disgusting, lol. Canned pineapple in heavy syrup to be in moderation but a whole egg fried in butter to be minimized!!! lol, it is crazy and anyone who actually believed this chart is a complete idiot. 
Anyway, the article you posting is so interesting. Where food deserts exist in America, we have the same issue. Some kids have NEVER seen a real veggy before! That is just terribly sad. But on the flip side, is it the school's responsibility to teach kids what vegetables are? Is it one more item to be added to the curriculum for teachers? I understand that it is important, but is it the responsibility of a government agency to explain to people what a vegetable is on the dime of taxpayers? 

Better than an egg cooked in butter according to this, lol...

VERITAS!
Shout it from the rooftops, VERITAS!

When we see the American dietary guidelines putting Luck Charms cereal as one of the most nutritious foods to eat and mothers giving their children powdered donuts for breakfast and thinking it’s a nutritious meal then we have go full Orwellian.
Let’s make 1984 fiction again.


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Welcome aboard @Kim1776!
Yes, this way of life is doable for you too. Keto and carnivore are often referred to as the Proper Human Diet. As long as you're still human, then it is proper for you 😄
It is recommended that you transition slowly, especially since you don't have a gall bladder. This will give your body time to adjust and your liver to start ramping up bile production. Bile helps break down fats and is produced by the liver and stored in the gall bladder. But even without a gall bladder, it can be trained to make enough.
Start by eliminating refined sugar, grains, and vegetable seed oils (canola oil, corn oil, sunflower oil, safflower oil, etc). These are the trio of terror and you don't want to consume them. 
At the beginning you can have meat (meat heals!), low carb non-starchy veggies, a few nuts, and a few berries. Aim for no more than 60 per day carbs. Then, over the next 6 weeks, reduce your carbs by eating less plants and adding more fatty meat.
60 carbs per day week 1, 50 carbs per day on week 2, 40 carbs per day on week 3, 30 on week 4, 20 on week 5, 10 per day on week 6, and then zero (ish) meat only beyond week 6. You can modify this as you see fit.
You could go 'cold turkey' and just jump right in, but any time you make an overnight radical change to your diet your body doesn't react so well, and then people end up blaming the diet. Start with clean keto, then move on to ketovore, and then move on to carnivore.
 

I'm new here and I am sorry if these questions have been asked but I am an overweight women,I have IBS-D, acid reflux,no gallbladder and menopausal. Yep my body is a hot mess lol.  Is this way of life doable? Thank you for any support and answers. 

I saw that the other day myself. It’s always about profit, power and control. It’s because even more evident in the last three years and even more so since becoming carnivore.


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Cures don't sell prescriptions, so there is no money in it and they try to silence these people and bury the information. 
I recently heard a story where someone came up with a cure for Hepatitis C, and that person was actually reprimanded and told that he should have came up with a treatment instead of a cure, because a treatment would create better long term cashflow.
Sad!

It is so logical that it blows my mind that the medical community is so blind to this. But then again they aren’t allowed to be free thinkers and must follow the protocols of their handlers.


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AMEN!


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Well said! If I could turn back time, and had the nutrition and food knowledge that I have acquired in the last year back in the 90's and early 2000's, I would have done then what I am doing today. Back then, it seemed like I was young and invincible, and yet all the while I was doing damage that wouldn't manifest itself until my mid-30's and later.