Scott F.

Our math is the same. LOL Scott

Congrats on the 16 days. Just chiming in with my personal experiences. Most of my bathroom issues have been caused and corrected by fat intake. If my fat intake drops, not really intentionally, but if I eat less fatty cuts of meat like pork and chicken my trips to the bathroom slow down and have had some constipation at times. When I increase the fat intake per meal I sometimes overcompensate. From there the trips get more frequent and sometimes feel downright violent. Like, I feel like I can go for distance. My biggest issue is that I eat a lot of fat as a norm, and I get adjusted to that, so a couple days fall off and things slow down. In the beginning there was no real pattern as I was adjusting to carnivore, Hydration and electrolytes were nowhere near correct so my frequency to the bathroom was all over the place, and a couple times I literally mean, "all over the place". As far as the science and adjusting proteins to fats most of that will be based on you as an individual. With carnivore, the principles for me and you are pretty much the same, but after the principles there is not much that is 'cookie cutter' between individuals. If I eat X amount of fat to X amount of meat and do fine, that same ration may send you to the bathroom either hoping for a movement, or even hoping you get there in time for the movement. It is probably not that exaggerated but things will be different for each of us with actual amounts. As far as learning, I am still in the process of learning after ten months, but I feel like I'm studying for my Carnivore Degree from the University of Google and the You Tube School of Medicine. There are tons of information out there. And like anything you will have to weed thru the good and the bad. As of late I have been reading and watching videos from Dr. Tony Hampton. Dr. Chaffee and Dr. Shaun Baker are great resources. I am currently reading Dr. Baker's book as well. Dr. Berg and Dr. Ken Berry as well. ( I still watch but at times Dr. Berry is starting feel 'commercial'. But I can't fault anyone for finding a few $$$ that are floating out there) After ten months I have yet to dial in on where my "diet" will change to a "lifestyle". I lost 92lbs in about 10 months. I went from 306 to 214 and the last month has been bouncing between 215 and 222. I'm off the prednisone and Neurontin for NMO/SD (autoimmune disease). I feel better than I have in years. I started off with the basic "eat when I am hungry and eat til I am full" approach and that morphed into eating once per day. Then I started trying to build muscle, so I am cramming in the protein to hit a target. As far as moving weights in the gym I am stronger now at 55 than I was at 25-35. I have coupled the mass eating with long fasting. I have done two 72 hour fasts and one 96-hour stretch. All three were great but how I felt from 72 hours to 96 hours was more than amazing. Babbling on, but your journey will be your journey. Mine has been all over the place as I continue to dial in trying to get to the carnivore lifestyle and no longer consider myself on a carnivore diet. Best of luck. Congrats on the 16 days. You will figure out the bathroom stuff in time. This is a great place to bounce ideas around and see what is working and not working for others. (Maybe the only place where POOP can be a large part of a conversation). LOL Scott

I was like that is not tabilitas those are beef short ribs. I'm guessing it is a 'geographical terminology'. LOL Scott

We are doing some fried pork tonight with ground pork rinds as a batter of such. First time down this road so it will be something new. My wife is insisting I need some variety in the way the meats are prepared. She seems happy with the experiments, so I roll with it. After working a 12–13-hour shift, coming home to feed the animals the last thing I am going to do is complain about what is cooked for dinner. LOL (many levels to that as well, LOL) She is talking about variety and I ate the same thing on Friday night as I did on Thursday night. Mostly, because it was incredibly good but also extremely easy/quick to prepare. She mentioned variety and I am thinking I could go burger/cheese/bacon/fried egg/cheese/bacon/fried egg stack again for the third night. Scott

These were so good on Thursday night I did them again on Friday night. Scott

Funny how the brain works. I sleep well and restful but usually up between 3 and 4AM. Curse of life 35-38 years of varying forms of rotating shift work/nightshift. This more what I think than what I know or read. Once you go carnivore, and even with minimal carbs, your fat intake will contribute to blood glucose. The body will 'find' the amount of glucose it needs. One for bodily functions and two for energy if needed. If the fat intake is too low on carnivore and there are now sugars or carbs coming in it will use fat for energy. At some point protein will be used to make glucose (gluconeogenesis). My thinking would be increasing the fat intake on carnivore, ss well as no carbs, (minimal carbs maybe) the body will use fat for energy (ketosis/ketones. etc.) and protein for recovery/rebuilding. If the fat intake goes down and more of the proteins are used to make glucose, I would expect glucose numbers to increase. Carnivore is mostly defined as a meat only diet/way of eating. But what I have found for me meat is down around third or fourth on the level of importance and impact while living a carnivore lifestyle. First, for me, it is more about elimination. Meats and fats can fix a lot of health issues once the carbs and sugars are removed but it can't do much while packing in a bunch of carbs and sugars. For me, fat is the second most important part of the equation. I have used fat as a lever to adjust energy, stools, glucose and ketone levels. I think I can miss on protein and not have the same-day/next-day consequences I do when I miss on fat. Then meat comes strong at number three. I think instead of saying, "I am living a carnivore lifestyle. I only eat meat, salt and water. I should be saying I eat fat, meat, salt and water'. Just my way of thinking. I could be way off the mark. Scott

I have watched a bunch of his videos. There is much debate about the amount of protein needed for muscle hypertrophy. On average the numbers tend to land on 1 gram of protein per pound of ideal body weight. Some say it is actually lower, down around .7 or so per pound. There are others that say it can be as much as 2 grams per pound. I'm around 215 and I am guessing my ideal weight is down around 190-200 (I change my mind almost daily). I struggle to eat that much protein everyday. On the days I do get to the 180-200g of protein my glucose gets over 100, usually in the low to mid 100's. I don't think I tracked enough to see at what point the glucose started to rise in relation to protein intake. Scott

My numbers are similar in movements. I don't have any medical issues with glucose/Type I or II or even pre-diabetes. I never had a reading above 100 until I started carnivore. Probably a little low sometimes early in the morning, I did the same buying a glucose meter for personal data points. I think everyone can experience the dawn effect where morning glucose 'spikes' up and then falls as the day moves along. I kept check on mine during a 96 hour fast and averaged upper 70's low 80's across most of the fast. My morning numbers were in the high 80's to the low-mid 90's. This morning I was at 98. As of late I am in the upper 90's and see some low 100's here and there. I'm going to call my rises and higher numbers as a result of gluconeogenesis. I'm strict carnivore, meat, salt and water, without any cheat days which has driven my daily average down some but sometimes the spikes take me up a few notches. As of late I am eating a ton more than I should or actually want. I am trying to hit a protein target for ideal body weight and it takes a lot of food to hit that number. I simply don't want that much. I'm eating to build muscle. On the days I get really close to the desired target for protein there is some correlation to my blood glucose inching up and past 100. It ramps a little after working out but I work out early in the morning, coupled with the dawn effect and my numbers jump a bit. I don't consider my numbers all that alarming but I do keep track. Scott

Hamburger patties covered with cheese, then bacon and then a fried egg. All fried in bacon grease. Simple but really good. Scott

Just bits and pieces here and there. Still kicking tho. Scott

@geezy. Spot on. Although I have not the year mark yet I have varied the approach a couple different times. My best results came after i read some things and learned some things. I started off strictly as a weight loss DIET. I had no idea there would be any other benefits than weight loss. I started off and I just ate fatty meats. I didn't know about salt and minerals. For me, it was meats and water. I had some energy issues and some stool issues and after reading a few things I adjusted and increased my fat content and added salt. From there, the weight started to drop and within 4-6 weeks I was off medicine I had been on since 2018. By then it was basically one meal a day. One meal a day, eating when I was hungry til I was full, lost the most weight. I like milk and I drink a glass or so once a week or maybe twice a week. For me, if the weight is falling I can get into an almost immediate stall with a glass, maybe two. For the last month or so, maybe 2, I have been trying to eat enough protein for 1 gram of protein per pound of ideal body weight. I'm around 216 this week (between 216 and 222 for over a month). At 216 I am guessing my ideal weight is between 190-200 but eating that many grams of protein is hard, at least for me it is hard. This is the only time I have counted anything. Like Geezy said, and I agree, I don't see the point in counting when eating when hungry/eating til full. For no better way to explain it, the math is built in. Scott

First, welcome to the group. Your results will be mostly individual. Your results may not be my results even though we do pretty much the same thing. I really like this board because I read others actual experience and learn from people that have walked the walk. I think the weight will continue to fall. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower. And yes it will "stall" here and there. Going by pictures (nothing personal) I was much larger than you at 306 @6'3". This morning I am 216 in just under 11 months. I have the love handles and some belly. Our love handles are similar and my belly might be slightly smaller (thirty-five years since I said anything close to that) Although I weigh almost daily, it is better if one does not. Cinching your belt or feeling the difference in your clothing is more revealing (and mor valuable). Sometimes you will cinch your belt a notch, yet the scale will not move at all. The scale can sometimes let you down even though you made a positive stride. I have been around 85-90lbs for well over a month. With that said, I switched up the amounts I am eating. I am trying to hit a protein target of 1gram per pound of body weight. I am guessing that is somewhere around 200 and it has been a struggle to eat that much per day. After a few weeks of Carnivore I gradually fell into eating just once per day. I went by the rule of thumb, " I eat when I am hungry and I eat til I am full". Then repeat. The weight fell off tremendously during that time. I never measured anything or kept up with calories or grams or macros or fats. I probably ate more fat than most do but i did that before carnivore as well. It simply tastes good. Again, welcome. This is a great place to bounce your ideas off the group as well as share your experiences as well. Even at the first month or so your expereinces will offer insight to someone. Scott

Welcome to the group and welcome to the way of eating. I will defer to Geezy on your question. No experience. Again, welcome to the group and I think you will find many more benefits than expected. Scott

That is incredible news. Congratulations. I go back in mid April and again mid-May for bloodwork for my AQ-4 and immunoglobulin numbers. Prior to carnivore I was way low on one and way high on another. In the last 9 months they have both eased back toward the norm. I'm hoping in the next couple months I am in the 'green". LOL Again, great to hear your success. "getting off medicine" or "not having to be on medicine" is absolutely priceless. Scott

I wish I could go in and delete the above post. I'm not sure how it reads to others but it sure sounds like an 'addict' when I read it again this morning. "It felt really good, and I am looking to get there again before I find out if it is healthy to go that route multiple times. Just get me back to that feeling". Doing the reading and the listening and trying to figure out what's the best route forward. It felt great but no need to hurt myself or my progress chasing something that can be spaced out. Scott

Two eggs laid yesterday, 2 from this morning and 1/2 of last night's ribeye. Maybe not the breakfast of champions to the masses, but I think "we" have some inside information. Scott

Long thread that sort of got away from "carnivore"....my apologies. It is Tuesday evening and the 12 hour shift is winding down. Yesterday I was in the gym early, got more than an hour in and then did the 12 hour dayshift. The energy level is still high. I think I am sold on the combination of carnivore and fasting. I'm thinking a monthly 96 hour fast for the next couple months. The energy level on the two 72 fasts lasted four or five days. From 72 to 96 felt amazing and I am not sure if that means a quicker fall or being sustained another day or so. Now I am reading on the effects of multiple fasts during the month. Maybe fast for 96, wait for the energy level to feel 'normal' and then start another fast. Then I wonder is that too much. Still trying to figure some things out. I have blood work coming up next month and again in May. I will more than likely not double them up til after May. Pleasantly surprised. Scott

Got a good workout in this morning before work. Maybe a tad over an hour. Backs and biceps this morning. I have had a scratchy throat today and maybe some congestion starting. If I feel up to it when I wake up in the morning it is cheat and triceps before taking Wednesday off. Scott

The mask is there to protect other people from you, not the other way around. There is basically no filtration from the outside in and only from the inside out. The biggest reason it works is that your breath is moist and wet. When you exhale the moisture binds to the fibers of the mask, your moisture provides the primary membrane for filtration as it builds. The mask does not provide much but the membrane you create stops you from spreading yourself to others. The mask is not the filter, you creating a primary membrane creates filtration. Scott

My wife is not the biggest fan of the fasting. If I didn't have the NMO/SD she may not be as weary of the fasting. We both know how bad it was way back when and the last six years we were both happy with 'status quo', maintaining and not triggering another set back. Going carnivore was easy for me but she seen it as going out on a limb. The carnivore grew on her enough she has tried it off and on but she seems steadfast against the fasting....for me or her. LOL I'm right at the point I will say I am a believer. If I have the energy all next week like I did on the last two most anyone will be hard pressed to convince me otherwise. Scott

Not sure about that, but thank you. I learned a the last few weeks reading/watching videos and then a ton more actually doing the fast. Maybe the biggest lesson was somewhat of a negative as I ate too much to break the fast. I got real loose later that afternoon and it has lasted into this morning. Lesson learned. I didn't lose much weight during the first two but this one was 7 during and close to 2 more by the day after. Last time the weight dropped a tad but it triggered a fall during the next week. The next few days will teach more about that part of the after-fasting. I was shocked at how much energy I had and how good I felt between 72 and 96 hours. I doubt anyone could have convinced me of that prior to as I would imagine it would be depleted and weak waiting for nourishment. Polar opposites. That was one of the videos I watched this past week. I wound up watching several he made. Great content. Scott

This fast is over and I can't believe how good I felt at the end. I read 'euphoric' is the word and maybe that is close but I just felt good, maybe even rejuvenated. I did eat a little too much coming out of the fast and my stools were a little loose yesterday afternoon. Lesson learned. Followed that up with one of the best beef tenderloins I have ever had. My son knocked it out of the park for my wife's birthday. The funniest part was the ketone meter came in just after the second meal from fasting. I don't do a lot of recommending and advising as I am a novice to most everything discussed in this forum, but the fasting is working wonders for me. Both 72's helped me thru the next week more than anything I would have imagined. I didn't sleep as many hours as I normally do but the sleep was deep/restful, and I woke up well rested and as if I had slept many more hours. I read where sleep could be restless and even some report insomnia while fasting, but it was sort of the opposite for me. Maybe working nights factors in, just not sure. Again, I'm not the preacher nor the teacher as I have much to learn, but the fasting has quickly become one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced. Scott

7lbs this time. 222 on Tuesday morning and 215 this morning. This fast was 3-4lbs more than the last two. I am not sure the difference between this one and the last two. Scott

I am getting ready to break the fast at 96 hours. I can't really explain how good I feel right now. I have energy to spare and feel like I could easily have stretched it out another day. I have read so much the last few weeks as well as the last few days about fasting. I'm not all that smart but I can throw some scientific/medical terms around now, not having a complete understanding, but I think I am in the ballpark. Between 72 hours and 96 hours I had some autophagy going on, the ketosis was sending ketones at what feels like a hectic pace, the Human Growth Harmones are swimming around and even the stem cells are finding things to fix. Around 72 hours it was almost like my body grabbed another gear. It has been an amazing experience. I had a good workout Tuesday morning, ate just before lunch and then pulled the 12 hour night shift. The next two mornings I had really good workouts after two fairly hectic nightshifts. Last night was OT and it was a semi-rough shift. This morning I went to the gym and had a really intense workout, going to failure on most every set. I came home and walked just shy of three miles with 45 pushups along the way. Nothing to eat since Tuesday and I feel great right now. If it were not for plans with my wife I would ride this train another 24 hours or at least to something said 'this is enough'. If anyone had ever told me that after not eating for 96 hours, first I would say there is no way I could go 96 hours without eating and then I would say there is no way I would feel good after that, before they could finish I would say you must have fallen and bumped your head. My wife said I almost sound giddy talking about it. Maybe, maybe not but I am pleasantly surprised at how I feel this morning. Prepping my body with carnivore the last ten months or so, followed by a couple 72 hour fasts, and now this 96 hour endeavor is amazing. I'm looking forward to this week to see how the energy level lasts. Scott

No truer words have been spoken. Scott