Scott F.

I'd jump on the $9/lb ribeyes. As of late I hit the grocery store early on Monday morning coming from the gym. I buy up as much of the marked down meats as I can. I'm not all that picky, never have been, so I'm good with just about any red meat cut marked down. I miss our local hometown butcher shop. It says a lot knowing the guy behind the counter and my Pops always sad, "it is best to trade with someone you know'. Scott

One of son's friends tried this way of eating with a wife and two kids not participating. The hassle at times was more impactful than the cost. For the most part he pre-cooks his stuff (both kids very active in ball and after-school activities so they are always on the go-which translates to a lot of fast food/eating out). He laughs when he is the only guy in MacDonald's with a ribeye. Like most things it gets drilled down to the individual/individual home. Scott

It is just my wife and I, and it is savings for us. If we have steaks, she eats a steak with whatever else she cooks. If she wants hamburgers then we eat from the same pack. There are times when she eats something that does not really flip my boat and we eat different things. That particular meal probably goes up and tad but end of the month we are still saving money with me being a carnivore. Plus, factor in there are three-four-five days a months I don't eat at all. LOL Scott

The fat thing could be a part of it but I think I still could lose some visceral fat. I fee like I am eating enough fat but I have pushed the proteins as of late and could have the proteins to fat a tad off. Maybe? The energy could be from any of the things I listed and maybe a combination of any of those same things. I use to have, let's say, some really offensive gas. After a couple three months on carnivore it went away for the most part and when I did it was not near as "offensive". I must have had something laying around in my stomach because when it started, it started. It had been a while since I could clear a room. I am sure there are worse issues to deal with other than venting off here and there. Scott

Nothing better. Scott

I started my fast this past week. I ate on Tuesday about 4PM before leaving for work. I have fasted for 48-72-96 and 120 hours over the past year or so. Sometimes life dictates the end but mostly I go to a feel like I really need to eat with water not doing the trick. This time I have had gas like I have not had in months. One minute it is a deep air-filled burp and the next the gas is coming out the other end. I don't feel bloated or gassy but it has been a constant since Thursday (about 48 hours deep). Just weird because I didn't anything that I have not been eating for the last 19 months but something is causing me to vent off. To the point, last night at work we were going to the MCC room to reset a bucket and I told my co-worker to go up the steps first because if he followed me we would probably end up in HR. I dropped from 222 on Tuesday to 216 this morning which is 90lbs since I started carnivore. ( I have been down to 210 but I have been eating proteins like they are going to stop making them as of late). I have been on 12 hour night shifts since Wednesday night, worked out on Thursday/Friday morning and again this morning. Every other time the energy level has been abundant (still amazed it worked that way). This time I felt good til last night when I felt like I was a tad bit flat. This morning the sets and reps I did Thursday was more than I could lift this morning. Not many times since carnivore have I felt physically depleted but the first time while fasting, I pretty much felt spent. My sleep has been a tad off as well. The gas sort of puzzles me and the energy drop is surprising. I am guessing it is a combination of things. Nothing to eat since Tuesday, pulling 12 hour-night shifts since Wednesday, getting in three trips to the gym after work, and maybe the 55 birthdays I spent trashing my body (LOL). But can't complain. I am miles better than I was 19 months ago. Hope everyone has a happy and blessed Sunday. Scott

I'm a self-experiment-er as well. I have adjusted my meat and fat content up and down and learned a ton. I also used this forum to learn from others as well as throw "stuff' on the wall to see what sticks. Some leaned forward with some scientific approach and others were border line hair brained. End of the day I feel like I am in a good place. Weight down, energy up, pain and inflammation gone, no more medicines all from ditching the crappy diet for a better one. As individual as this ride can be I think a lot of us have some similarities with our approaches. Best of luck with your new plan. Scott

Yep. Beef prices are high (and getting higher) and until someone actually carnivore shops it is hard for them to believe there is cost savings. I try to explain it like, 'imagine you go in the grocery store, skip straight to the meat counters, leave there and pick up some toilet paper/toothpaste and from there head to the eggs and then to the register". Anything that seems extra with the meat is easily absorbed in not buying vegetables, fruits, canned goods, flour, sugar, sauces, chips and cookies. It is still hard to convince others tho, LOL Scott

Congrats. Hopefully that represents the healing. Keep at it. Good luck. Scott

I think carnivore (going in) is just like any other diet, there is nothing really sustainable about it. (and allow me to finish) I think everyone who switches to carnivore starts off on a carnivore diet and like most all diets, people choose another route. it is the diets that are not sustainable. It takes time for carnivore to become a lifestyle and leave the 'temporary-ness' of just about all diets. For me personally I have been strict carnivore for about 19 months. I have not had a fruit nor vegetable nor bread nor pasta since May '24. With that said it was nearly a year later when I felt like being on the carnivore diet had morphed into me having a carnivore lifestyle/carnivore way of eating. And maybe my story is a little odd because I didn't start with any health concerns in mind as for me it was nothing more than a weight loss hack. I stumbled upon a ton of benefits early on, chalked them up to coincidence, and then once I was reading the writing on the wall I started to evolve from diet to lifestyle. People quit for all kinds of reasons. If I had not stumbled upon the benefits with my autoimmune disease, knowing it was going to be a weight loss hack, I probably would have quit after losing 40-50 pounds (and called it a successful endeavor). If I knew which carb/vegetable/fruit was my trigger I would probably venture back out into the carb world on occasion. But since I don't know it is not a gamble I feel comfortable with so that too helped me transition from carnivore diet to carnivore lifestyle. I think it could be any number of reasons, but I mostly think those reasons land on the individual person rather than the way of eating itself. Scott

Hadn't seen this post in a while. Funny it gets posted when I have been fasting since Tuesday. LOL Looks good. I will put it on things I need to try with the exception of the peppers. Looks/sounds good. Scott

A large percentage of the American population is digging their own grave with a fork. Write that down. Scott

Being a total hypocrite, don't look at the scales in the very beginning ( I did just about daily, LOL). It is better and more self serving to take notice of more important things, like how you feel, and the one snug pair of pants is now loose fitting. That was the advice that was given to me early on, (and I ignored it) and now I am passing that tidbit forward (and odds are you will ignore it, most do, LOL). Congrats on the first week. My weight fell off really fast the first months and then I hit my first stall. Watching the scale drop just about a pound a day for 30 days was amazing but when it stalled it made the stall all the more disheartening. Everyone is different and metabolic health and weight moves their needles at different rates for different people. Until carnivore I never had a fasted blood sugar result over 100 and my highest has been 111. That shift/moving of the needle triggered me to buy a glucose monitor so I could track it. I had an initial rise and then it fell back into the 80's. I was intrigued by the number of the scale and the glucose meter so I bought a ketone meter as well. And then in time I hardly use any of it, maybe the scale once or so per week. Good luck and welcome. Scott

Good luck as it sounds like a solid plan to me. Scott

Somewhat in the same boat as Bob. I am pretty much happy with my weight after dropping 90-95lbs and bouncing around in the 85-90lb lost range. I'm still working out but eating way more than I really need to be eating. The 'last few pounds' usually land around visceral fat and this can be difficult to lose. (I am about to attempt to drop 10-15lbs of mine). I'm going to use fasting, somewhat more aggressive, than what I have been doing the last few months. Currently, I fast from 48-72-96 hours every other month, or so. Sometimes plans and life get in the way of the fasting but I am going to change that starting this week. Instead of fasting every other month and then eating to gain muscle (extra proteins) when not fasting I'm going to fast and then go back to eating when I am hungry, which I think/hope will gradually shift back to once a day. (since using the protein powders and the protein drinks the little bit of sugar has sparked an appetite I didn't have the first 10-12 months eating carnivore and today I can eat bigger meals and even twice per day). I am not sure if fasting works for a lot of people but it has worked wonders for me. Scott

I think anytime a group eats in a strict form, or an extreme way, there can be shortcomings, both real and perceived. To some the carnivore approach is crazy. Remember, to a lot of groups we are the weirdos. LOL For some the strict carnivore diet is not the way to go, others see benefit from morphing from carnivore toward a low carb keto approach and others see improvements when coming off low carb keto to carnivore. I happen to benefit from going cold turkey from a complete trash diet to a strict carnivore diet which eventually evolved to a carnivore lifestyle. I think anyone that ditches the processed foods and sugars get healthier, regardless of what their diet is called. Along the way they may need to supplement or make some adjustments but staying away from the garbage seems to work for most everyone. In this particular case I think the issue was not an all-fruit diet but an actual eating disorder/mental health issue. This was a slow demise and unfortunately no one was able to intervene/convince her to make better decisions. Scott

I think that is where I fall as well. I have seen milk trigger a stall and when weight loss was a goal I limited the milk for the most part. I don't think I ever totally eliminated it but I can see where it could be a problem. It is indeed nature's weight gainer as that is what the good lord intended it for, to grow babies. (and it will 'grow' adults as well, the difference being babies grow up and adults grow out) I have some pounds to go with visceral fat and some body composition. I actually started drinking more milk to head off some weight loss a few months ago, and it worked. I stalled my weight loss around 95lbs and gained about 10 back to bounce around the 85–90-pound total loss since starting carnivore. I'm using it now a little more often but not like it is a staple of my daily food intake. Sometimes, I simply like a glass of milk. Scott

Yep. I think it was as much the eating disorder as what she was actually eating. She could have picked all vegetables or all roots or all just about anything and found troubles. I would venture a guess to say it was the fact it was an eating disorder because she never recognized she was orchestrating her own demise. Thoughts and prayers for her, her friends and her family. Hopefully there is a lesson learned. Scott

WOW! So my question is that this didn't happen overnight and I would have to think someone said something? At some point a person has to look in the mirror and see the results of their choices. I have lost as much as 95lbs, to the point I did look sickly. I had been really sick a few years prior and I had a bunch of people both ask and think I was sick all over again. I wonder how many people tried to intervene as her decisions to a long time to get her to the end. Scott

I have never been one to set goals or even make plans. "Me and life" find a way to trash out even the best made plans. I go with a different approach. I start off with 'this is what I am going to do' and then go from there. I have lost as much as 95lbs, bouncing around 85-90 lost today and I'm going to attack visceral fat around the gut and change my body composition some more. I am not sure what that new number will be as I will be trying to add muscle as some of the fat goes away. If the composition changes the number will be no more than a number. From there I will continue with the carnivore approach and focus a bit more on red meat and adding more fish. Scott

Agreed. I am pretty sure I have been carnivore the last 19 months. When I got rid of all the other garbage in my diet it is really easy to see the effects of what I do eat. I feel better on longer stretches of red meats. Pork is not as satiating for me as red meat and I can eat more chicken/pork per sitting than I can red meat. I found that milk will put the brakes on weight loss for me but haven't had any other ill effects from drinking milk. (and I like it too) I morphed all that into my current eating habits. I call it carnivore. Maybe I'm off the mark to some. LOL Scott

Agreed. I made the tallow a couple days before and thought we were on the same page. I get home and see peanut oil jugs. I am pretty sure a couple three times over 19 months is not going to do me in, or be the straw that broke the camels back, but once you learn something one can't un-ring that bell. I thought the tallow fried turkey tasted better. Could have been a mind thing for me but I am pretty sure I felt a little better about it. LOL Scott

So how, exactly, do you feel about seed oils? LOL Agreed. I haven't had but a tad of seed oils in the last 19 months. We have eaten out two or three times over that period, one they were nice enough to scrape the grill and cook in butter, the second time they said they did but they didn't and the third time I didn't bother asking. We don't eat out hardly ever, even before carnivore. We have a cabin next to the house and it has turned out to be everyone's favorite place to go. We always ask, "wanna go out to eat tonight?", "maybe, but I will be good with a steak on the grill out at the cabin" and then., "the cabin it is". My son deep fried a turkey for Thanksgiving and it was pretty good cooked in peanut oil. I fried one the following Saturday in tallow I had made and I "think' mine tasted better but several could not tell the difference. But I agree, seed oils are no good. Scott

I never totally gave up milk (some dairy) except for in the very beginning of switching to carnivore. I learned about the diet on one evening and started a strict carnivore approach the next morning. So much so, I didn't realize that the majority of the salt in my diet was coming from the processed crap I was eating. I got off on both hydration and electrolytes the first week or so. The first videos I watched trying to learn a little more were somewhere between "anti-milk to every so often but not recommended". I ditched the milk altogether for a stretch. Then over time I started back with a glass here and a glass there. For me, if I were losing weight between a 1/2 to 1 pound per day all it would take was a glass or two of milk and I was immediately in a "stall". Back when weight loss was the only real goal I had with carnivore I spaced the milk out when I did drink a glass. One glass I would get a lull in the weight loss and a second glass during that lull put the brakes on any weight loss, and at times adding a pound or so back. Fast forward to trying to build muscle while still on the carnivore diet I started drinking more milk. I use it to mix protein powder to get the protein grams per pound up. I'm still strict on what I eat with zero fruits and zero vegetables and the sugar I eat is limited to the milk and the protein supplements. I sort of semi-cycle on and off the protein supplements, somewhere around monthly. The milk goes along with that. I have added some muscle and lost a lot of fat but still have some visceral fat I would like to lose but feel like I am in a pretty good spot. In early '24 I was over 320 and have been as low as 210 and now bounce around between 215 and 221. (with milk and protein). The monthly fasting drops my weight several pounds close to the 210 mark and then I eat, supplement and drink milk back to >215. Some muscle and some fat. I feel like milk is working for me. Scott

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