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Most people in this diet suggest to eat fatty meat to satiety. Here comes an issue: that rule applies in the USA but in the EU the meat is too lean, which will easily give you a toxicity state given by a protein overload (rabbit starvation). So if i eat 1 kg (2.2 pound) of meat in a day, i will easily get an overload of proteins which in my case translated to feeling unwell, having severe skin rush, and liquid stool not absorbing nutrients.
The top i feel i can handle is about 2.2gr of protiens per kg, the problem is that 2.2gr/kg translate to barely 700gr (roughly 1,50lb) of meat per day which is simply not sufficient. I tried to eat some slices of tallow during the day but my tummy cannot tolerate them, hopefully in the future when it will be healed i will be able to simply eat some tallow, but as of today i cannot use rendered fat wthout consequences.
Please give me some suggestions on what i could eat to keep proteins low and avoid rendered fats.

This diet healed a loooot of issues i had, but i was still feeling unwell till i tried to lower proteins and realized it was simply too much for my body to handle. Given my weight, a 2.2pounds entrecote in northern sweden translates to 4gr of protein per kg of lean mass. Minced meat is not the best choice cause, yes i can add fat, but it almost entirely turns into rendered fat.

ideas??



Here are the nutritional values of an average entrecote in northern sweden:

-fat 6-8gr
-protein: 22gr

That is a ratio of about 40/60 (calories fat to proteins), well distant from a healthy 70/30 or even better an 80/20.

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In the past 18-19 months I have moved my fat to protein ratios all over the place.

I have had a couple dilemmas along the way. The biggest being, I can't simply eat 2lbs of meat in a day. it is a struggle. If i eat a 14-16oz steak or that much fatty meat it is difficult to get the rest in for the day. I am healthier from an autoimmune disease and lost a bunch of weight so I can't really complain about not being able to eat to his a numbered target.

The last six or seven months I have/had focused on hitting a gram of protein per lb of lean body mass to build muscle. I am around 215 now and I am guessing I could stand to lose another 15-20lbs. I targeted 200 grams of protein in a day and I found that to be difficult.

For a stretch I concentrated too much on protein and let the fat content slip to hit the target/offset the lack of hunger or being able to eat enough. I gained some weight, didn't feel as well and had some stool issues with the high protein/lower fat approach.

Also, I'm very cheap and when I see the marked down meats in the grocery store I pick them up regardless of fat content. On the leaner cuts of meat I eat butter to get my fat content back up closer to a 70/30 ratio.

What I have learned for me is to pretty much ditch the numbers and measurements. I sort of eyeball the meats and the fattier the better. If it is a leaner cut, I add a few chunks of butter. With trying to build a little muscle at 56, I am coming up protein short. I compensate with protein shakes on occasion.

Maybe the answer is that you have to figure those things out as an individual. I doubt my numbers are your numbers. I am strict carnivore but the protein shake falls outside most 'boundaries' but for the last few months I feel like it is working.

Maybe you can use butter as a fat source and maybe you can handle it a bit better than tallow/rendered fat. Maybe even a combination of the two.

Good luck. Hopefully you can figure out your plan.

Scott

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