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Carnivore --> Sugar
Carnivore --> Sugar
Miranda and one other reacted to Scott F. for a post in a topic
2 pointsI was wondering as well. Scott2 points -
Carnivore --> Sugar
Carnivore --> Sugar
Miranda and one other reacted to ketomonster for a post in a topic
2 pointsHow's it going Nick??2 points -
What Did You Eat Today?
What Did You Eat Today?
Terry and one other reacted to Scott F. for a post in a topic
2 points4 boiled eggs, left over pork BBQ and maybe six or eight chicken tenders. Sort of a 'clean the fridge-hodge podge' for work today. Scott2 points -
What Did You Eat Today?
What Did You Eat Today?
ol_hilly and one other reacted to Geezy for a post in a topic
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What Did You Eat Today?
2 pointsOxtail - I've never tried it. Sounds unique. I hit up the NY Strips last night. Was even still eating it when the live stream started, lol.2 points
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What Did You Eat Today?
2 pointsSlow cooked beef oxtail for lunch.2 points
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Weighted vest for weight loss
2 pointsI'm a huge fan of the weight vest. This is one of those things in life where a few extra dollars can mean a lot. Two, I went sort of big with the plan of starting light and working the weight up as I progressed. I poked the pooch on both. I saved a few dollars on a 40lb. vest. I pulled the first weight bag out and tried to put it back in. It is like they wrapped it in place, did the sewing and the material then shrank over the weight. It took 20 minutes of stretching and prying with a screwdriver to get the one weight back in its pouch. I should have not went cheap. Since I went cheap and could not remove the weights I started off really high at 40lbs. It is quite the load to walk 3.5 miles in a 40lb vest. (Then I was dumb enough to drop on the side of the road for my normal pushups. Not so normal and quite the challenge. LOL) Scott2 points
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But... but.... didn't people always eat bread?
No doubts. I am extremely thankful myself. I think for the human race as a whole we have shown we can survive on just about anything. We can survive on just about every diet, every eating habit, every food choice out there. Most of us have shown whatever path we took it did get us to the point we made the change. Up until that point, especially looking back, I was eating to survive. Once I changed approaches I think now, I am eating to thrive. Two totally different concepts. Scott2 points
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Sleight of hand
1 pointAdvertising and marketing will make this the new health drink. Let's skip past the phosphoric acid that cuts the enamel off your teeth and get to the cane sugar that makes it "healthy". (I am just about sure when I stopped drinking Mountain Dew on May 8th of last year someone in the Pepsi corporate offices said, "we see a downward shift in sales in the southeastern region, what's going on?") I drank that many. Scott1 point
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Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
Copied the following from Bon on another post (sugar diet thread)...... "This makes sense. Carbs can be utilized for energy almost immediately. This is why some people will be carnivore until it's time to hit the gym, and then they will load up on fruit or a sweet potato or something." I have not tried to time the protein drinks with the gym to see if I see if I can feel an increase in energy. Bob's comment clicked because there is a guy in the gym who does just that with sweet potatoes on Thursday nights before lifting heavy/high volume on Fridays. He is strict carnivore the other 6 days per week. I would imagine the protein drink could serve the same purpose. Sometimes it takes me some time to put 2 and 2 together. Scott1 point
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Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
Yep. True. We were all spokes in the wheel. Scott1 point
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Is meat satiating or is sugar/carbs more of a trigger?
Is meat satiating or is sugar/carbs more of a trigger?
Katlyn Gommerman reacted to Geezy for a post in a topic
1 pointThe sugar is putting you into a dopamine roller coaster ride. It raises your blood sugar and when it drops off it wants another “hit” so it turns on the hunger hormone Ghrelin. Eating fat is satiating because it suppresses that hormone. When I first started eating carnivore I couldn’t eat as much as I do now. I only eat when I’m hungry and like you, a pound of meat was about all I could stuff in but when I lost nearly all my fat is when my appetite increased. The reason is when we are fat adapted we only use fat for fuel but when we use up all of our body fat the body starts crying for more fuel than what your body can provide so it turns on the appetite. I try to eat 1.5 - 2 pounds a day but there are some days I still only want about a pound. There are five stages of carnivore The decision Adaptation Healing Ravenous Maintenance1 point -
Is meat satiating or is sugar/carbs more of a trigger?
Is meat satiating or is sugar/carbs more of a trigger?
Katlyn Gommerman reacted to Scott F. for a post in a topic
1 pointYep. Carnivore has surprised me in a lot of ways. I hardly eat in comparison to others and then with a handful of sugar and carbs it is like I found an appetite. Now, I may have a clearer picture of how I came out of the military around 190-200 and found myself north of 320 years later. I'm not much on calories in and calories out but as of late I can see where ounces in and ounces out can be a thing. LOL Another pleasant surprise form carnivore. LOL Scott1 point -
What is an acceptable ("safe") blood glucose level on carnivore?
What is an acceptable ("safe") blood glucose level on carnivore?
Miranda reacted to Irispinkflower for a post in a topic
1 pointI'm new here, so just now seeing this. My blood glucose level is 125. It bothered me until I learned from Dr Paul Mason that when you're not eating carbohydrates, you're no longer glycating your red blood cells, meaning they're living longer, and that can make your blood glucose go up1 point -
Diarrhea and Loose Stools for Long Term Carnivore
Welcome to Carnivore Talk Sean. I have been carnivore for a little over two years myself. I will occasionally get loose but for me it’s because of too much fat. I’m not sure what it could be in your case since you’ve already experimented with your fat ratios but since this is an elimination diet you might look at what’s not essential to your diet. You might try dropping the LMNT for a while. The magnesium or potassium could be causing an issue. I personally don’t thing that someone who has become fully fat adapted should be taking a supplement unless they are deficient in something or trying to fix something. I was taking LMNT and the. For cost reasons I switched to KetoChow and a blood test showed that I was in the danger zone for having too much potassium in my system. Now I only take LMNT when I know I’m going to be out in the hot sun working all day and sweating. If I don’t I’ll end up with muscle cramps. The other thing to look at would be your coffee consumption. I know that’s a hard one to give up but I could be worth a try. But I’d try giving up the electrolytes first.1 point
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Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
Yep. I left the east coast on a submarine, got to the Mediterranean, small boat transfer to a LPH, a helo-transfer to a carrier and then a puddle jumping plane to Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and then to Kuwait. I was there to repair an oxygen generator in a make-shift hospital/aid station. Some branches do not have the same sense of humor. When I arrived I was handed and M-16 rifle and I said, "don't need that dude, I brought my own screwdrivers". It went over like a lead balloon. But yep. Go Navy. Scott1 point
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What Did You Eat Today?
1 pointThanks a lot Geezy! I was going to fast today until I saw this picture. I'll fast tomorrow 🤣1 point
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The history of Spam
1 pointMost of this video is all bout the history of Spam. While also including an old recipe of cream cheese and spam. The video creator wasn't too impressed. But did his homework on where Spam came from. I thought interesting. The history of Spam1 point
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Weighted vest for weight loss
1 point@Bob You were thinking about getting a weighted vest and I came across this from Nick.1 point
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Weighted vest for weight loss
1 pointWhen I hit the button, I was aiming for picture but managed to hit video. But yes, it is Pro Iron. My apologies. I like the vest itself. It wears comfortably. If the weights were removable/returnable easier I would recommend it over any others I tried. It sort of takes the versatility out and makes this one a 40lb vest. Scott1 point
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What Did You Eat Today?
1 pointI found it at my local Asian market. It was something like $3.99/lb.1 point
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Weighted vest for weight loss
1 pointThe video clip is like 1/2 a second and almost impossible to see or read, so I managed to pause it and it looks like the brand is "Pro Iron"1 point
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What Did You Eat Today?
1 pointYesterday I had a slab of ribs slow on the grill. This evening, Had a pound of ground beef with blue cheese and a home grown mater. I like ox tail. Luckily not everyone else likes it. So when one of my neighbors butcher, I sometimes get the tail. and other parts.1 point
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What Did You Eat Today?
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new to canivore diet - any known issues with this diet while on pembro immunotherepy for melanoma?
1 pointI wouldn't see the harm. I'm a big fan on longer water fasting. It has been my subject of research as of late. Tons of information about the positive effects of longer fasting on cancer cells to go along with the positives of eliminating sugars. I believe fasting has played a huge role in my blood work improvements along with the carnivore approach. I feel like they are a winning combination. Best of luck with the scan results. Scott1 point
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new to canivore diet - any known issues with this diet while on pembro immunotherepy for melanoma?
1 pointI take Rituxan every six months for an auto-immune disease called Neuromyelitis Optica Spectrum Disorder. It is an immunotherapy drug. Once I was on carnivore I came off the daily prednisone and Neurontin. It took maybe 4-5-6 weeks and I no longer needed those two medications. I have been on a strict carnivore diet for 14 months and have seen no issue with 'carnivore and immunotherapy'. I always suggest talking with your doctor, as I am not a doctor and the only medical degree I have is via youtube and Google, and I am sure they don't count. LOL Carnivore has been a super positive experience for me. Zero regrets and pretty much zero negatives. I'm 55 off medicine, lost 95 pounds and will soon have a conversation with the Neurologist about stopping the immunotherapy. My AQP-4 and Igg and IgA numbers have drastically improved since going carnivore. Talk to your doctors. Some will be understanding of your diet choice and some, not so much. And some, will even preach against it. My Neurologist says he is not exactly ready to medically recommend carnivore for his patients but seeing my successes he wishes some of his other patients would give me a call. Believe it or not that is a lot of progress withing the medical community. Welcome to the board. The carnivore is working for me, and I do a six hour infusion every six months of Rituxan. (I don't know how that translates to your particular medicine, so you will have to do the leg work....) Good luck. And welcome. Scott1 point
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27 Days In — Still Struggling with Digestion, Appetite, and Energy
27 Days In — Still Struggling with Digestion, Appetite, and Energy
Geezy reacted to ketomonster for a post in a topic
1 pointI 've watched all 37,527 no carb life interviews and some people say they struggled for awhile. It seems pretty common for those with health problems to take longer to feel better. Low energy.. don't feel like beef? eat butter! We know here carnivore is cheaper than SAD. I can say you're on the right track, don't doubt your decision. Muscle through the discomfort you'll thank yourself later.1 point -
Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
Yep. 3 guys 2 racks. Everyone hot racks til you gain some seniority. I did sub school after A school. C school for a bit, to the boat, then to dive school in Panama City, then to the shipyards, then to another boat and then got out in 93. It was 2,192 days not that I started counting around a 1000 nor did I keep a logbook counting down days describing every which way I felt like the Navy was not for me. I realized it was not for me when I arrived at the recruit depot for boot camp all the way til I got out 6 years later. I had a ton of fun with the people I served with, met some of the wildest and most dependable people in the world. And as much as I disliked things it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Odd to say, I hated it so much but would not change one minute. Yep, bubble head. Scott1 point
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What Did You Eat Today?
1 point2 brats, a burger patty and some spam. 4 pickle slices 1 Deschutes "Black Butte Porter, N.A." A spoonful of L-rueteri yogurt.1 point
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What Did You Eat Today?
1 pointFinished up having bacon/eggs for lunch time to hit a few NY strip this week1 point
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Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
I do the same. I'm currently bouncing around 213-218 (down from 306 in May '24 and down from 319 earlier in '24) I'm guessing my ideal weight is somewhere around 190-200lbs. I based the grams per pound on the 190-200 and struggle to eat that much protein in any given day. I sort of altered the concept of the diet a couple times due to the fact my appetite was basically no more. If I eat a meal that leaves me comfortably full, I'm not actually hungry again for 24-30 hours. And that meal will be far short of 200 grams of protein. I lessened the fat content to lessen the total amount of food in an attempt to get all the protein. For whatever reason, I gained weight steadily over that period and saw a drop in energy (not normal day to day but the gym sessions sort of flattened out). When I added the fat back and lessened the protein count my weight started to drop and the gym energy returned. In another attempt to get the protein in I did so via protein powder (no sugar/no carb brand) and it helped me get closer. A couple months ago I ran out and bought a 50 grams of protein drink from the grocery store. It is 2.5 servings per bottle. I drank half at work that night and within an hour I was as hungry as all get out. With nothing at work, I powered thru that hunger. I didn't put 2 and 2 together until the next night when I drank the second half of that protein drink. Again, within an hour or so, hungry as all get out. I waited a week and tried it again and it was the same. I spaced those drinks out over the next month to month and half. Each time half of the bottle led to hunger that night and some into the next morning. At least 2-3 days per week I was up to and touching the 190-200 grams of protein (and a much better fat to protein ratio). The weight went up a tad, but the day-to-day swings were not as wide. In a month or so I saw a big difference in the gym. The plates per exercise went up. You used UFC as an example, and I will use 'professional bodybuilder' (and I am neither...at 55 both of those ships have sailed). I can use the protein drink with sugar and do a "bulking phase" by getting in the protein and then ditch the protein drink and do a more normal carnivore diet as a 'cutting phase' (not that either of them is a goal of mine). From just a month and a half, for me, and maybe just me, I have found sugar is triggering some hunger. I'm using those grams of sugar to trigger hunger, using the hunger to hit a protein target and using that protein to build muscle (not for aesthetics, but because I have an auto-immune disease that debilitates over time and the more muscle the better I can fight that). Now next week or next month I may find this first month or so was a one-off. But for right now, it seems to be working. I'm rolling with it. LOL Scott1 point
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27 Days In — Still Struggling with Digestion, Appetite, and Energy
27 Days In — Still Struggling with Digestion, Appetite, and Energy
musicalgym reacted to Geezy for a post in a topic
1 pointOf course. It’s very normal especially if you just jumped right in rather than easing into it. You could be eating too much fat but more than likely it’s just your gut biome going through the adaptation stage of rebuilding itself to digest fats and proteins instead of carbs. This phase can last anywhere from a couple of weeks to two months. For me it lasted 30 days. That’s common. Fat is very satiating so we stay satisfied much longer. We do t get that rollercoaster ride like we do with carbs. Just eat when you are hungry and eat until you are full. Just make sure you are getting enough fat. Again, normal. In the beginning your body is having to change its source of energy from glucose to fats. This can take some time so it’s important to just keep eating plenty of fat ( but not to the point of diarrhea). Give it time and it will turn around as your body adapts. Be aware that what some people experience others may not. I can’t say that my mental clarity has improved any but my irritability has improved greatly. I’ve never had depression so I can’t relate to that. That first ten pounds were probably just water weight. You haven’t stalled, you probably haven’t even started losing any fat yet. Until your body adapts to using fat for fuel you won’t lose any. A little advice for you would be to not be too concerned with the scale. Instead get you a tailors tape measure, the cloth kind. Measure every part of your body. Neck, shoulders, chest, waist, hips, butt, thighs, calves, biceps and forearms. Write them down in a journal and then remeasure every thirty days. This will be a better metric of your weight loss than the scale. This early in the diet I wouldn’t mess with any digestive supplements. If after you’ve been doing this for 3-6 months, if you’re still having issues then ox bile might be a good choice. But give your system time to adapt and heal. The only supplements you might concern yourself with at this time would be electrolytes of sodium, magnesium and potassium. This way of eating flushes water out of our system so it can affect your levels and might need to be replaced this can also affect your energy levels I think you should just ride it out. Your body is going through a radical change and the transition is different for everyone so just take some vitamin P (patience) and give your body time to heal. You didn’t wreck your metabolism over night and you won’t fix it overnight. Just KCCO (Keep Calm & Carnivore On) Oh, and welcome to Carnivore Talk we are glad you joined us.1 point -
Spot on Dave.
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- Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
Yes. I was on a submarine for 6 years. We lived on a three shift 18 hour day. Every six hours the shift changes and in time there is no distinction between day and night. Of all the things to do int he services, career submariners have the least life expectancy after retirement. When I got out of the Navy I went to work pouring concrete on dayshift. As soon as the Superintendent found out I could finish concrete (working for my Pop's as a kid). The Superintendent/Foreman moved me to nights to finish concrete. From there, I started 12 hour rotating swing shifts. 30 years later still swinging shifts. And yes, it is not a healthy way to make a living but its the only thing I know. LOL Scott1 point- Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
A night shift job is not great for human health. I did 2nd shift for over 30 years and my wife was almost 35 years. That definitely affected us both healthwise. We are both MUCH happier being retired.1 point- Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
Maybe I progressed a bit fast, just not sure. But I read something similar and now I wonder if I am in the ravenous stage and the sugar is like a "150 shot of nitrous' on a drag car. Sometimes it is hard to define one item when there are combinations in play. The last month or so I have seen some solid games in the gym. A little muscle growth here and there but the strength gains are rather noticeable. I also wonder if the stress I'm adding is causing my body to call for more nutrients/food. Based on blood glucose I think I'm insulin sensitive now so I would imagine the least little bit of sugar (and it has been so long without) the body is reacting. Again, learning and experimenting and don't really have a lot of answers. Maybe the only answer is that I feel pretty good every day, the energy levels are better than they were a year ago, I am much stronger (if that matters) and I sleep better/wake up better. I think being carnivore is the primary catalyst, but I also think other things factor in as well. As with everything else, time will tell. Scott1 point- Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
musicalgym reacted to Geezy for a post in a topic
1 point🤣 that is a great explanation of what we do. I love it. 👍 And that is how it’s done. There has never been and will never be a true RCT of how we eat. And since we are all so individual we must be our own N of 1 experiment. You are doing exactly what you should be doing and that’s finding out what works best for you. I’m personally scared of sugar. As an addict I feel that I must stay away from it. I don’t even want any sweet taste in my mouth, even from the artificial stuff. But that’s just me knowing me. Kerry Mann has put out three different videos about the 5 stages of carnivore. When I saw the first one I realized that he had nailed exactly what I had experienced. The 5 Stages of Carnivore 1. The decision 2. Adaptation 3. Healing 4. Ravenous 5. Maintenance The ravenous stage was really something. After I had lost all of the weight it looked like I was going to loose and my body had healed I became enormously hungry. I recognized that my body no longer had the fat stores to sustain my energy levels and it was craving more fat and proteins. That’s why I can eat more than some people. I have found that if I don’t satisfy that hunger I’ll start losing weight so in the maintenance stage I have to make sure I eat enough. Never in my life that I’d be in a situation that I’d need to eat more to keep from losing weight. Have I mentioned I love carnivore. 😋1 point- Let's smoke
1 pointI watched that one last night at work. Maybe ignorance is bliss? Or, maybe ignorance is worth billions upon billions of dollars for the major players. I'm leaning toward the latter. Scott1 point- But... but.... didn't people always eat bread?
There has been a couple of times in my life when I was pretty destitute and all I had was bread from the day old store. At one point I was starving for about 3 months and had nothing to eat but homemade flour tortillas that I made at the stove while in a walker. I am so grateful for God’s blessing today and for the trials He put me through in the past.1 point- Let's smoke
1 pointI saw that. I really like his explanations.1 point- Hello fellow carnivores
1 pointHi I missed the boat where I recommended you trying the sugar diet 🤣 Maybe click the link and watch before typing 😏1 point- Hello fellow carnivores
1 pointAha. Ok I will try that as well. Jim1 point- Hello fellow carnivores
1 pointI am so glad for you Scott. Most of us need to take our health into our own hands and stop relying on doctors who just want to prescribe medication in response to symptoms. Jim1 point- But... but.... didn't people always eat bread?
I read an article last night about our ancestors eating patterns and I normally delete my searches form the work computer. Now I can't find it. I will continue to look as it was quite interesting. I will summarize and paraphrase and I feel like I will get the intent right, but I may butcher the delivery. LOL We were never meant to have variety in our diet. The proper human diet was based on food that was hunted and killed. The electrolytes (salt) we depend on stemmed more from man learning to preserve meat vs. salt being a seasoning. No cave man sat out early in the morning to kill a chicken, a duck, a pig, a deer all in the same day so there would be variety in that weeks' meals. The reason so many people seem to do better on red meat is that was the hunting objective and not because it was better, or taste better, but it was simply bigger. Walking for distance, setting up, stalking, hunting for several hours for a chicken is not the most efficient way to feed the family/village. The bigger animals happen to be bearers of red meat. And the bigger animal fed more people for longer periods of time. Now along the way the variety came when the big animal hunt fails or the little animal steps out and becomes an opportunity. Hunters will attest that a deer is not killed on every trip to the woods. If on the big animal hunt a little animal steps out, at least that is a meal for that day. Variety in the meals were not by design but by opportunity. Fruits and vegetables (and in time bread) were seasonal. The apple tree only bears fruit but so many weeks during the year. And food/diet patterns started to shift based on geographic location. Eskimos were making do with whale blubber while Floridians had oranges for ever so many weeks per year. Alaskan vegetables had a very small window. People adjust. That was the gist of the article of how a lot of our dietary issues can be linked to our ancestors and where they called home. Similar to Geezy speaking to lactose intolerance amongst different backgrounds last Monday night. This kinda sort of leans toward and speaks toward the Lion Diet being successful and when people who go from keto to keto-vore to a stricter carnivore approach see more than positive results. Not exactly from the article but in reading this piece it makes me thing we were sort of pre-dispositioned to eat a certain way. When we find that way the positives are amazing. Scott1 point- Hello fellow carnivores
1 pointNeuromyelitis Optics-Spectrum Disorder (called Devic's) a somewhat rare autoimmune disease with basically the same symptoms as Multiple Sclerosis. Lesions which break the myelin exposing the nerve. Whatever nerve that is exposed is intense pain and any of a multitude of issues from bowel movements to loss of mobility, numbness in the extremities, etc, etc. The big difference is NMO most often attacks the optic nerve leaving vision loss/vision impairment. The initial symptoms are similar, the diagnosis pattern is similar and the treatments differ. I went from being on prednisone and Gabapentin/Neurontin for six years to not being on any daily medication in 4-5-6 weeks. The only change was I went strict carnivore to lose weight. I had no idea there would be other benefits and actually stumbled upon the reduction in inflammation/pain. Just about lottery like for me. Scott1 point- Hello fellow carnivores
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1 pointNot in the sense of euphoria, but in the sense of a positive and optimistic outlook on life and the circumstances that make it what it is, absolutely yes! I used to get depressed often. I would have feelings of worthlessness and contemplate whether those around me would fair better if I was out of the picture. Of course, that is ridiculous thinking, and the depression talking, and deep inside I knew better. But having switched to a carnivore centric lifestyle my depression has lifted, my outlook improved, and such negative thinking doesn't occur anymore. It's funny that what I tried to fix with spirituality, or a sense thereof, I actually fixed with dietary changes.1 point- The Various Types of Carnivore Diets
The Various Types of Carnivore Diets
Kat7 reacted to Carnivore Talk for an article
1 point. The carnivore diet is as easy as just eating meat, right? This is basically true. But if you follow some famous carnivore proponents on socail media or YouTube you may get confused. Some carnivores might be seen eating cheese or using heavy cream, and others may be caught using some herbs and spices on their food. I've spotted one drinking a diet soda, and then others boast about eating fruit and honey. So, like, what gives? What Is the Carnivore Diet? A carnivore diet is a lifestyle that consists of eating mainly animal products, such as meat, fish, and eggs. Traditionally, this diet eliminates all plant-based foods, including fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes. The thinking behind a carnivore diet is that humans evolved to eat meat and that our bodies are better adapted to digest and absorb nutrients from animal products, and that plants contain toxic self-defense chemicals that over time can harm your health, possibly being the root cause of many auto-immune disorders and chronic diseases. Different Types of Carnivore Diets The Lion Diet (Elimination Diet) - This diet consists of unprocessed ruminant flesh, usually beef, but could also include lamb, elk, etc, with salt, and only water. This is usually a zero carb carnivore diet. Many peple eat this way because they get inflammation and other physical symptoms when they eat other food. This is also a perfect way to start an elimination diet, starting with 30-90 days of Lion Diet and then slowly reintroduce foods one at a time to see how you react to them. The Standard Carnivore Diet - This is the most dogmatic and strict form of the carnivore diet, which involves consuming only water, salt, and meat, whether ruminants, poultry, pork, or seafood, including eggs and fish roe. No dairy, no seasonings, no supplements, and no plant foods are allowed. This diet is based on the premise that humans are designed to eat only animal foods, and that plant foods are harmful or unnecessary for optimal health The Nose-to-Tail Carnivore Diet - This is a more nutrient-dense version of the carnivore diet which includes any animal flesh, as well as organ meats such as liver, kidney, heart, and brain. Organ meats are rich sources of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and co-factors that are essential for various bodily functions and may prevent deficiencies that may arise from eating only muscle meats. This may often mean zero carb depending on the type of seafood and the amount of eggs. This is also sometimes called ancestral carnivore or restrictive Paleo. Any Animal Products Carnivore Diet - This slightly more flexible version of the carnivore diet includes all animal flesh and any animal byproducts that can be produced by the animal kingdom. This would include dairy products such as milk, yogurt, heavy cream, cheese, butter & ghee, as well as things like bacon, sausage, pork rinds, and deli meat. This is also sometimes called Zero Carb Carnivore by those who still avoid milk sugars and certain seafoods. Animal-based "Carnivore" Diet - Primarily animal sourced products but also allows participants to partake in some carbs found in nature, including some occasional bee honey and some fruitage that can be eaten based on seasonal availability. It's basically a mix of carnivore and Paleo. Animal-based dieters are still focused on animal consumption and avoiding plants (except their fruitage) and plant toxins with little to no regard for carbohydrate consumption. Dogmatic carnivore purists will argue that this is not "true" carnivore. Carnivorish/Ketovore Diet - This Meat-based Keto lifestyle still focuses primarily on animal products but does allow for some plant-based oils like coconut oil, olive oil, and avocado oil (the good kinds) along with the inclusion of some low carb vegetables, with the aim of limiting carb consumption to 10g (ketovore) or 20g (keto) per day. This version permits the use of some spices and herbs to enhance the flavor and variety of the meals as well. Dogmatic carnivore zealots will argue that this is not "true" carnivore. Which Carnivore or "Carnivorish" Diet is Right for Me? Rather than be dogmatic, all of the above can fall under the umbrella of what Dr. Ken Berry M.D. refers to as "The Proper Human Diet". A proper human diet is one that is all natural, uninflammatory, minimally processed, and low in carbohydrates (meaning about 100g or less per day). The key to optimizing your health is to find out where on the spectrum you fit in the best. For some this may mean being absolutely strict about being a pure carnivore and avoiding plants and fruitage altogether. For others this may mean low carb, non-starchy vegetables that have a minimal impact on insulin and glucose levels are fine. Still others may choose to eat fermented or pickled vegetables and some may enjoy some fruit, but only seasonally or sporadically. The amount and frequency with which one consumes fruit and vegetables on the carnivore or animal-based diet may vary depending on the individual’s goals, preferences, and tolerance. The key is to listen to your body and adjust accordingly. If you notice any negative effects from eating vegetables, such as bloating, gas, diarrhea, or cravings, you may want to reduce or eliminate them from your diet. So where on the spectrum are you? What kind of carnivore dieter do you tend to be?1 point- Getting Started on the Carnivore Diet - 7 Tips for Beginners
Getting Started on the Carnivore Diet - 7 Tips for Beginners
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1 point. This article is going to cover everything you need to know in order to get started on the Carnivore Diet and for you to personally become one of the many success stories resulting from this way of eating. So if you're thinking about starting the Carnivore Diet and not sure where to begin then keep reading and we will walk you through it. What is the carnivore diet? The Carnivore Diet is an all meat diet, also known as the meat only diet, zero carb diet, beef only diet, or Lion Diet depending on which version works best for you. You eat only animals and animal products and no plants whatsoever. That’s right. No obvious bad guys like sugar and grain, but also no vegetables, fruits, or nuts. Speaking of nuts, this probably sounds a bit nuts the first time you hear it, right? Well, if you take the time to do the research and understand the science and history behind eating this way, the more it’s going to make sense as you break it down. Why does it work? There are many reasons why the Carnivore Diet is effective for weight loss and optimizing one’s health. For starters, the Carnivore Diet is the ultimate ketogenic diet, which has been proven time and again to be one of the healthiest ways of eating in order to lose weight and reverse chronic disease. When you are eating only animal foods and no plant foods you are basically consuming zero carbs, or at least very minimal carbs, and so you experience a lot of the same benefits as you would on Keto. You will lose weight, regulate your blood sugar, and enjoy sustained energy and mental clarity. Animal-based foods are the most nutrient-dense foods on the planet. That’s right, more nutritious than any plant or plant food combination. The proteins are complete, and the vitamins are more bio-available than what you find in plants. There are also anti-nutrients found in plants that inhibit the absorption of the little nutrition within them, a problem you never encounter when eating meat. Many plants also produce self-defense chemicals to deter bugs and other animals from eating them, and so by eliminating these foods you avoid the toxins that can trigger inflammation and autoimmune symptoms. So, what can you eat? In its simplest form, only meat. But many carnivore dieters will allow for anything that comes from an animal, such as butter and cheese. You want to minimize dairy and focus on eating mostly meat and organ meats, which are loaded with vitamins and minerals. Beef is the most nutritious food for a human on the planet, but you can also enjoy eggs, seafood, chicken, and pork, including bacon. There is no need for supplementation, and you certainly will not be eating plant-based proteins or protein powders. Just focus on eating fatty cuts of meat. Lean meat is okay, but you need to consume fat for energy and to enjoy feeling satisfied for several hours at a time. Tips for getting started Tip #1: Ease into it There are several ways to get started. For starters, there WILL be an adaptation phase as your body transitions to consuming an all meat (or meat-based, meat-heavy) diet. If you have been consuming the high sugar, high carbohydrate diet recommended by the USDA’s MyPlate Guidelines (formerly the Food Pyramid), you are going to experience withdrawal symptoms. Just like an addiction to drugs, humans get addicted to sugar and carbohydrates from ultra processed food. Coming off of sugar and carbs can be very similar to coming off of an addictive drug. With this in mind, you may want to ease into this way of eating by starting with a Keto diet for at least a couple weeks. A true keto diet consists of only meat and low carb vegetables and no grain, no sugar, and no sugar substitutes. Don’t count or limit your carbs during this first 2 weeks, just focus on eating whole foods that went from farm to table without passing through a processing plant. Then for week 3, start counting your actual carbs and capping your daily carb intake at 20g or less. On week 4, cap that carb count at 10g or less. Then on week 5, remove all vegetation and focus on eating only animal products. There will be no longer any need to count carbs because the carbs you do consume will be trivial (eggs have carbs, so do scallops, etc). You will have already been in ketosis for some time and fat adapted and your adaptation phase will be short lived or maybe even non-existent. Tip #2: Give it at least 30 days We would encourage you to commit to a minimum of 30 days. Don’t expect to eat carnivore for a few days or a couple weeks and expect to see drastic results. You may notice some benefits of a carnivore diet within just a few days, but many of the major benefits take several weeks to several months to become manifest. This is why you should do at least a personal 30 day “Carnivore Challenge” and then at the end of that month extend it to 60 or 90 days. The longer you stick to the carnivore lifestyle the more results you will see when it comes to any weight or health issues you may have. Tip #3: Join the community! You will want to connect with others who are also choosing to use keto or carnivore to optimize their health and lose weight. It is wonderful to have a support group when the people around you in real life, your family or friends, aren't on board with your new lifestyle. Thanks to the plant-based propaganda that has proliferated over the last several decades, there will be those who think that what you're doing is completely crazy. This may even include your doctor who was classically trained to believe that saturated fat and meat is bad. In actuality, this is what our ancestors thrived on, and isn’t too far off from what your grandparents were eating just a couple of generations ago. CarnivoreTalk.com was created to be just that kind of community where you can find encouragement, support, and ask questions and get answers. We love to talk about Carnivore, which is why we call ourselves “CarnivoreTalk”. Whether it is in the forums or in our Zoom meetings, you can get the help you need to stay the course, as well as the medical and scientific research to back up what you are doing for the sake of your health. 4. Eat Until Full When you do sit down to enjoy your tasty carnivore meal, you want to make sure to eat until you are full and satisfied, but not in any kind of pain nor any feeling of being overstuffed. “Comfortably stuffed” is what you’re looking for. What is really nice about this lifestyle is that there is no calorie counting and no portion control on a carnivore diet. You shouldn’t have to concern yourself with counting macros. Why? Because your ancestors didn’t bother with all that recording and math. They just ate and were healthy. So, aim for 2 or 3 satisfying meals each day full of fatty meat and you will find that you don’t get hungry as much as you’re used to being on high carbohydrate diet. You are going to encounter this one problem at the beginning. As you fill up on mostly protein and fat from the meat and eggs that make up the bulk of your diet now, you’re going to not feel hungry as often. This is good in that you won’t be tempted to snack in between meals, and that’s a good thing. You don’t want to do that. But this never being hungry can be bad in that you might start unwittingly portion controlling. Don’t eat a small portion and assume that this is enough. You want to eat until you are comfortably stuffed. So, you might need to push yourself to eat a normal sized meal, or even a slightly larger one if you're only eating twice a day, or even larger if you are eating one meal a day. If the concept of only having one or two meals a day sounds strange to you, then you will be pleasantly surprised when next thing you know, why you too are only eating once or twice a day. Many carnivores who have been eating this way for a while find that they forget a meal or two. This is just fine and you can and maybe should increase the size of those meals. Of course, if you prefer to eat 3 meals that is fine too, as long as what is on your plate is appropriate. 5. Animal Fat is your friend This is the type of meat you want to go for when planning your meals. Choose fatty seafood or fatty cuts of livestock or game. You always want to consume food that has a nice balance between fat and protein. But remember you don’t have to count macros. Go ahead and add more fat if you feel like your meal could use some more, especially if you are using lean meat. Fat is what your body is going to use for fuel now. If you don’t consume enough fat yet consume a lot of protein, your body will convert that protein into glucose, the very substance you are trying to avoid by cutting out the carbs. You may have grown up in a time when butter was being vilified and vegetable oils were being praised as the healthy alternative. This mindset continues to this day, but it is actually erroneous. All of that vegetable oil and shortening is very inflammatory and bad for your health, so round it all up and throw it away. You actually should cook in butter or beef tallow or even bacon grease. Not only will this help increase your fat to protein ratio (not that we’re counting) but these animal-based fats are a great source of vitamins and minerals that you would possibly be missing out on by not including them in your diet. 6. Salt, Electrolytes, & Minerals You want to make sure that you have a good source of electrolytes and Minerals, as this is going to benefit you in a number of ways. For example, these are going to help you with as you likely experience carbohydrate withdrawal symptoms. One of these symptoms could be incredibly strong cravings for junk food. Electrolytes and minerals will help you stay in control because cravings are often a sign of some sort of mineral deficiency. Salt is an electrolyte and an essential part of a natural human diet. You’ve no doubt heard the misinformation that salt is bad for you, but it is perfectly safe to salt to taste. If you feel like you need to add more salt, you can go ahead and feel good about it. Real salt is good for you, and the two best sources of natural, unadulterated salt is Pink Himalayan Salt or Redmond’s Real Salt. These two salts come from areas that have been protected from exposure to various pollutants. Salt will help fight any carbohydrate withdrawal symptoms you might experience when you first transition to carnivore, because the sodium and chloride you get from salt are essential elements that your body needs. That’s right, you NEED salt in order to function properly. 7. Out with the old, in with the new. Remove potential temptations. Yes, it’s time to purge your pantry and your fridge of all the junk food you have on site. You know you reach for those not out of hunger, but usually out of boredom, habit, or temptation. Don’t have that mentality that you have to eat everything you’ve bought and brought home before you get started. Take this opportunity to clean out all those canned vegetables and the bags of frozen vegetables that have accumulated but you never ever touch anyway. Give it away to friends, family, or neighbors. You might even consider giving it to some charity, and you’ll feel good about it as well. Now that you have purged your home of all other options, you need to make sure you are stocked on tasty, nutritious carnivore food options. A carnivore diet food list includes fatty red meat like ribeye’s, NY strips, ribs, as well as ground beef or lamb. Stock up on butter, ghee, or tallow in place of the vegetable oils you should have tossed out. Eggs are one of the world’s most perfect foods and can be made in a variety of ways. Get some fatty fish such as salmon and try some sardines. Make some bone broth and learn to prepare some liver once in a while. Cheese is acceptable, although some people do better by minimizing their cheese consumption. You can do this! It takes some time to make your mind over and unlearn some of the things we have been taught. You also have to be patient and whether any carb withdrawals and adjustments to your daily routine. But commitment is key, which is why you should set that 30-day challenge as a personal goal. You will likely have experienced some positive results by the time day 30 comes around, plus you will no longer feel like this is a "challenge". Most people who make it to 30 days choose to extend it another 30, 60, or 90 more days, and many continue to eat a pure carnivore diet for years. So don't give up. You can do this!1 point- What is Carnivore Talk - The Animal-based Keto Community?
What is Carnivore Talk - The Animal-based Keto Community?
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1 pointCarnivoreTalk is an online keto diet forum community that aims to serve individuals who are following or interested in any of the four main low carbohydrate diets, namely Low Carb (also known as Dirty Keto), Keto, Ketovore, and Carnivore. It is our mission to provide a safe and enjoyable environment where health-conscious individuals can enjoy the following benefits. Support and Encouragement: Following a specific diet can be challenging, and having a community of like-minded individuals can provide valuable emotional support, encouragement, and motivation. Members can share their experiences, successes, challenges, and tips for overcoming obstacles. Information Sharing: Diet forums serve as platforms for sharing information, research, and resources related to their specific diet, whether that's a Carnivore, Ketovore, True Keto, or Low Carb diet. Members can discuss the science behind their low carbohydrate or animal-based diet, its potential benefits, and the practical aspects of following it effectively. Recipe and Meal Ideas: Members can exchange recipes, meal plans, and cooking tips that are tailored to the particular animal-based, low carb, or ketogenic diet. This helps individuals diversify their meals, maintain variety, and discover new ways to prepare nutritious keto-friendly foods. Problem Solving: Many people encounter unique challenges when starting or maintaining a diet. Forum communities allow members to seek advice and solutions from others who have faced similar issues, such as dealing with keto flu, managing cravings, or navigating social situations. Accountability: Sharing progress and goals within a supportive community can enhance accountability. Members can set goals, track their journey, and receive feedback from others, which can help them stay committed to their dietary choices. Education: Forums often have experienced members who are knowledgeable about the a Carnivore, Keto, or Low Carb diet. Newcomers can ask questions, seek clarifications, and learn from those who have been following the diet for a longer time. Personal Experiences: Reading about the experiences of others can help individuals gauge what to expect when starting their diet, which can be particularly reassuring for beginners. Networking: Diet forums offer the opportunity to connect with people from diverse backgrounds who share a common interest in the diet. This can foster new friendships, connections, and even local meetups or events. Keto and Carnivore dieters tend to develop close bonds with one another. Research and Debate: Members can engage in discussions about the latest research, trends, controversies, and potential modifications of their diet. This encourages critical thinking and informed decision-making. Community Building: Over time, online forums can foster a sense of belonging within a community. Members may establish connections that extend beyond dietary discussions, creating a supportive environment where individuals can share various aspects of their lives. Making Friends: Many of us have been involved in other forums over the years, and made life long friends and have even met in real life. It's important to note that while online diet forums can be valuable resources, the information shared does not constitute medical advice. Even if a member is a doctor, nutritionist, or health coach, you should always consult with YOUR healthcare professionals or registered dietitians before making significant changes to your diet, especially if you have underlying health conditions.1 point - Carnivore/sugars and self experimentations
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