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Speaking of bison, I recently interacted with someone who can only eat bison. Like, even other ruminant meats cause her grief, but bison alone is quite agreeable with her. She posted some science behind it which was quite interesting. But if you though Mikhaila Peterson had it bad, well...

Welcome Jen, It's hard to say. You could still be adapting, although at 7 weeks you should be almost over any transition symptoms. But meat sweats can certainly be a thing on a carnivore diet. It requires and produces significant energy to break down the proteins you are consuming, which is likely much higher on your new diet. Of course it could be the other things you've mentioned too. Does it happen after meals? Do you eat late at night? If you eat before bedtime, then stop. Eat earlier so you have more time to digest food before trying to go to sleep.

So besides the fact that men lose weight faster than women (most likely due to more muscle mass translating to a higher metabolism), your lack of a thyroid is definitely going to slow things down. Try not to get too frustrated, and keep eating a proper human diet, even on the carnivorous end of that spectrum like you have been doing for the last month. That small incremental weight loss adds up over time, and remember that we're in this for our long term health. Keep doing what you are doing and welcome aboard.

So eggs is a possiblity. They don't phase me and I eat eggs all the time. Dehydration and electrolytes I think would be bigger culprits, since you are not consuming carbohydrates you retain less water than you did before you changed your diet. I understand how unpleasant it is to feel like you are giving birth sitting on the toilet. If you don't take a magnesium supplement, this would help. Certain forms of magnesium aren't very bioavailable and go straight through you and help clean you out. If you don't move alot, try moving more. Go for walks, etc.

This is usually a temporary problem, lasting only a few weeks until you are fat adapted. But you say you have been ketovore for over a year (which is AWESOME! btw). You could try 2 opposite approaches.... 1) Slightly increase your carb intake, but not enough to completely kick you out of ketosis. 2) Tighten things up and go carnivore for a while. This is usually a problem in the beginning as you transition to a fat burner. Your body doesn't make efficient use of ketones and so they spill in your urine and your breath, but eventually this stops (which is why urine ketone test strips start showing lighter colors over time). Other than that, keep up with the oral hygiene. Maybe keep some sugar free gum or breath mints around for when you might be speaking face to face with someone.

It's really interesting the things we learn through community interaction. I had never heard of this, but it makes sense. I am generally unphased by my food so it's something I wouldn't have looked into. Although, I switch up my meals, both brunch and dinner, every day for variety.

"everything upgraded" - I love that. It succinctly describes what happens to many of us. I got an upgrade, healthwise 😉 Awesome! I'm glad to hear you are adjusting. It's a process, but yes it is worth it.

I absolutely love salsa, and while I have been mostly a faithful carnivore for the last 10 months or so, I wouldn't object to using it like a seasoning or garnish with some eggs again.

Yes, Dr. Baker and Dr. Chaffee don't tend to obsess over the fat content of their meat, or worry about melting tons of butter on it. They just keep it simple: Eat meat, exercise. And the two of them are extremely fit and toned. Interesting. I might have to try eggs only one day. I love eggs so this would be a walk in the park, lol.

Are you sure about that? I think it is well established that increasing saturated fat intake does indeed cause cholesterol to rise. What I imagine they are saying is that saturated fat and elevated cholesterol aren't to be feared or demonized like they are in modern medicine, and that they are not the *cause* of atherosclerosis. So this could be from all that fat consumption. Triglycerides are basically fat-based energy. If you're cells don't need all that energy, it's going to float around in your bloodstream until it breaks down, gets absorbed, or gets converted to belly fat. Common recommendations are to check for carb creep in any sauces or spices you may be using, quit coffee if you are still drinking it, and stop any liquid or concentrated forms of fat, which means no fat bombs, fat shakes, or bulletproof coffee. You might be able to improve this by eliminating the fat-fasts. Me too. I want to do this, and then do it every year or every other year, just to monitor it.

Because that is what we we're told. Another lie. Yes, me too on all three of these. I need to add them to my list.

Like we've said to you in the other topics, your body has adapted to what you are doing, whatever that is. I would try mixing things up, and there are 2 directions you can take this... 1) Incorporate fasting. Start with intermittent fasting. Then try a 24 hour or 48 hour fast. Intermittent and extended fasting has helped people break their plateaus. This makes sense. If you don't eat, you will shrink. 2) Carb cycle. If you want to carb cycle and stay true to carnivore, scallops are great. There are 7 carbs for every 3 large sea scallops. Alternatively, fall back on some keto friendly options like berries or other low glycemic fruits for a one-time snack, and then return to carnivore. Back when I was doing keto, I would hit a plateau for weeks and get super frustrated like you are. Then I would lose my resolve, throw caution to the wind, woof down a pizza, and somehow break the plateau and weigh in even lighter the next morning. It seemed senseless at the time. Of course, I wouldn't recommend you eat a pizza. I've had the same experience with an apple. A pizza will welcome back cravings for junk and possibly send you spiraling back to the standard american junk diet. But some berries or some fruit won't. Humans always ate berries and seasonal fruit, even way back in the beginning.

I haven't heard or experienced this myself so this is new to me. A little web searching suggests these are most likely "exertion headaches"... https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=41&q=headaches+while+lifting+weights https://www.google.com/search?q=headache+while+lifting+weights Common suggestions were to stay hydrated, gradually warm up, etc, but the one thing that I saw that could be sorta diet related is low blood sugar, and the advice was to have a small pre-workout meal to raise your blood sugars before working out. So maybe try priming yourself with some protein and/or fat before your workout. When you eat anything, even on carnivore, your blood sugar rises. Hope this helps and that you find a solution.

The first time I saw someone put ketchup on scrambled eggs I was horrified, lol. But then I was urged to try it and I actually did like it. For some reason, tomato pairs well with eggs. As I got older and adopted a more keto lifestyle, I would swap in salsa instead so I didn't have the added refined sugar. I must admit I never had a soft boiled egg. I can imagine cold runny yolks, lol.

Welcome aboard Isla! Isn't it? I remember always having to get dessert. Or if I went to a large gathering where everyone brings a dish, I would have to sample everything on the dessert table that people made. Now I have zero temptation and feel like superman, lol. You will. If this way of eating can eventually get people off their insulin and diabetes medications, then it can keep us from ever having to get on them. During my active weight loss, my total cholesterol shot up to almost 600. But this is because there is cholesterol stored in your adipose tissues that get released into the blood stream as you lose fat. I've been weight stable for the last 3 months, and it has dropped to half that. Supposedly it returns to "baseline" (or your new baseline) at 6 months of being weight stable. Just an FYI if you too have been losing weight rapidly.

Well we all know that one guy who drank alcohol first thing in the morning, ate fast food and chocolate cake, and smoked 2 packs a day and lived to 95, so....? lol 😄

I know, right? Now I am on a mission to find gyro meat without the breadcrumbs, or to find/create the perfect gyro meat seasonings. I love gyros so much. It had been almost 10 months since I had some gyro meat. Very nice. I want to make my own mayo eventually.

Well there you go. If you didn't have hypertension, diabetes, IBS, chrohn's or colitis, chronic pain, arthritis, and many other infammatory ailments, then you won't have the same viewpoint as those of us who did suffer from these and reversed our conditions. After years of being told there "was no cure" for these issues, carnivore feels like some miracle to us. We have a cecum, albeit a small one, so we are designed to consume some plant matter. However, we can function just fine on a strict carnivore diet, and if we have chronic conditions it might even be better, as plant toxins are sometimes at the root of such issues.

I beg to differ. It's called body recomposition, which is often what is happening during a weight loss stall. Many of us have experienced a weight loss plateau that lasted months, and while the scale didn't budge, the waist kept shrinking and we kept moving along the notches of our belts. If you are getting a sufficient amount of protein and nutrition, you can simultaneously put on muscle while reducing body fat. There's a balance to be had here though. If you portion control and consume too little, then it will be difficult to put on any new muscle mass.

So my wife went out with some friends yesterday for dinner (girl's night) and I only had to cook for myself. I went to this meat shop and picked up some items. While I was there, I saw a 3/4 pack of genuine gyro loaf. I LOVE gyros, and still had some tsatsiki sauce (basically yoghurt) to use up before it spoiled as well as some Egg Life wraps, so I figured I would treat myself. Now mind you, genuine gyro loaf is a mixture of beef, lamb, bread crumbs, and spices - so this technically breaks my vow to never eat grains again. Yesterday when I woke up, I was about 175. This morning I was 177. It's unbelievable how grain-sensitive I am. I don't know how much grain or how many carbs were in it. But I had a pound of food. I could have had a pound of NY Strip and wouldn't have gained anything. I had been strict carnivore, almost lion diet, for the previous 3 weeks.

This is so true. I am constantly searching for carnivore and keto related articles and studies to share. This eventually trains Google and Bing's algorithms to serve me content that it thinks I am interested in. I get bombarded with recommendations for vegan diets, articles about how what you eat doesn't matter, and articles about how awful keto and carnivore is. It's almost as if Google and Bing are trying to reprogram me, lol.

True, nobody "needs" coconuts. And if you are trying to heal chronic or auto-immune conditions by doing a strict carnivore or lion diet, then yes you would want to eliminate coconut oil as well. Coconut oil contains salicylate, which are one of a plant’s defense mechanisms. Salicylate sensitive individuals may experience asthma, gut inflammation, diarrhea, rashes, and headaches. Coconut oil also contains oleosin which can cause allergic reactions in some individuals. However many others can handle coconut oil just fine. So yes, if you are trying to eliminate the plant foods that may be triggering our immune system, avoiding all plant oils is a good idea. But we support our brothers and sisters who choose less strict carnivore diet variations, such as meat-centric keto, ketovore, or animal-based. Coconut oil can be a fine choice. It's high in saturated fat, low in polyunsaturated fat, and isn't put through rigorous processing like nasty seed oils.

Breakfast sounds delicious. On my way home from work yesterday, I stopped at a local meat shop and they sell all kinds of unusual animal parts you would never see at the grocery store, including beef tongue. It caught my attention and I thought to myself 'I wonder how that should be prepared' in order to be a tasty dish. I'm hit or miss with liver. I got it about 6 months ago, cooked it well done in bacon grease and I didn't mind it. Got some about 3 months ago, seared it in a skillet with butter so that it was "medium" and it tasted horrible.

'Ultra-Processed' Foods Harm Your Health in More Than 30 Different Ways By HealthDay Feb. 29, 2024, at 7:20 a.m. By Dennis Thompson HealthDay Reporter THURSDAY, Feb. 29, 2024 (HealthDay News) -- Ultra-processed foods can cause dozens of terrible health problems among people who eat them too often, a new review warns. Researchers linked diets high in ultra-processed foods to an increased risk of 32 separate illnesses. In particular, these foods are strongly tied to risk with early death, heart disease, cancer, mental health disorders, overweight and obesity, and type 2 diabetes, researchers said. For example, ultra-processed foods are associated with a 50% increased risk of heart-related death, a 48% to 53% increased risk of anxiety and common mental disorders, and a 12% risk of type 2 diabetes, researchers said. And the more of these foods people eat, the higher their overall health risks, results showed. Ultra-processed foods include packaged snacks, sugary drinks, instant noodles, sweet cereals and ready-to-eat meals. The products undergo multiple industrial processes to make them tasty and shelf-stable, and contain additives like emulsifiers, coloring agents and chemical flavors. Unfortunately, ultra-processed foods now account for up to 58% of total daily energy intake in some high income-countries, and are proliferating in low- and middle-income countries, researchers said in background notes. “Notably, over recent decades, the availability and variety of ultra-processed products sold has substantially and rapidly increased” in countries around the world, wrote the research team led by Melissa Lane, an associate research fellow with the Deaken University Institute for Mental and Physical Health in Victoria, Australia. These highly processed foods contain loads of sugar, salt and fat, as well as other ingredients that can be harmful to many systems within the body, researchers said. For this analysis, researchers reviewed pooled data from 14 review articles published within the past three years involving nearly 10 million participants. None were funded by food companies that produce ultra-processed foods. The evidence also linked ultra-processed foods with a 21% greater risk of death from any cause, a 55% increased risk of obesity, a 40% increased risk of type 2 diabetes, a 41% increased risk of sleep problems and a 22% increased risk of depression. The findings were published Feb. 28 in the BMJ. The research team noted that these poor health effects aren’t necessarily fully explained by the products’ lack of nutrition and heavy calorie loads. Alterations in the food made during manufacturing “may affect digestion, nutrient absorption and feelings of satiety,” the researchers wrote. Emerging evidence in humans also has linked some additives used in the foods -- non-sugar sweeteners, emulsifiers, colorants and nitrates or nitrites -- with poor health outcomes, researchers said. Intensive industrial processing of food might also produce harmful substances that contribute to chronic inflammation, and even packaging materials can contain contaminants, they added. Researchers said that manufacturers can be pressured to reformulate these products, but that rejiggering the ingredients won’t necessarily eliminate harm. Further, profit motives discourage food makers from switching to nutritious products. In fact, manufacturers push their products using marketing strategies that “involve visually captivating packaging with eye-catching designs and health-related assertions,” promoting “excessive consumption,” researchers said. Because of this, researchers recommend a crackdown on these foods by regulators and policymakers, including: Front-of-back nutrition labels. Restricting advertising. Prohibiting sales in or near schools and hospitals. Promoting the accessibility of fresh, unprocessed or minimally processed foods. More information The Cleveland Clinic has more on ultra-processed foods. SOURCE: BMJ, news release, Feb. 28, 2024 Copyright © 2024 HealthDay. All rights reserved. ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2024-02-29/ultra-processed-foods-harm-your-health-in-more-than-30-different-ways

Welcome aboard Jason! We're glad to have you. I can completely relate to how you feel. I am quite vocal about my diet and tend to speak like I'm some professional in human nutrition, and yes, people around me look at me like I am crazy. I've got a cousin that mockingly calls me "Dr. Bob" lol. However, I do manage to reach some who are willing to listen. It certainly feels like it's "supernatural" because the results often seem miraculous, especially as we reverse and cure conditions that we were programmed to believe were chronic, lifelong, had no cure, and science "still doesn't quite understand what causes" this or that, and thus says it's genetic. But it's actually not supernatural, it's simply natural. We're eating real food, and not manmade frankenfoods that are poisoning society at large, and reaping the benefits.