Scott F.

Sometimes stumbling upon the answer is better than a well thought out plan. I'm ten months in and I had no idea the benefits that were just sitting out there waiting for me to make better decisions. Welcome. And congrats on the first five days. Scott

Yes. There was not a lot of weight drop over the course of the fast but it did stoke a 3-4-5lb fall the first three or four days afterwards. This time I started at 222lbs. Scott

When I look at it on plate and I feel like an average to above average veterinarian could still save him, I'm good. Scott

Yep. Both of the others I ate that night when I got to work and the fast started afterwards. I can't remember what I ate the day of prior to the last one. I think by eating a lot as of late, skipping breakfast and letting the last meal be lunch vs. dinner is a bit different. My notes say and I don't remember being hungry during the fasts but I feel like I could eat tonight. I'm guessing most of it is the 'eating habits of late' and abruptly going to one meal day that leads into a fast. Probably not the best plan but I am about ten hours deep now. Damn the torpedoes.....and all that inspirational jargon. LOL Scott

The first time was easier than I thought, and all was well til the 71st hour of the 72 hours of the fast. My last meal had been just as I started night shift a couple nights before. I pulled into the parking lot and all felt well. I stepped out of the truck and hit a wall. I had barely enough energy to get across the parking lot. Completely and utterly zapped. I ate and then felt much better, but the energy levels just pretty much returned to normal. I am sure there were benefits but at the time I didn't feel them (if that makes any sense at all) In Feb I did a 72 hour fast and it was way easier than I ever imagined. I didn't get hungry, and I felt pretty good all the way til the end. I even considered stretching it out to 96 hours. I read a couple of articles, not necessarily conflicting, but differing opinions on the benefits of fasting past 72 hours. Coming out of that fast I felt like I could have easily done another 24 hours for a 96 hour fast. I ate Friday night and Saturday started off with some stool issues. Almost constipated followed by really loose for most of the morning. I probably should have eased back into eating with a smaller meal, but I didn't, and I think I had to pay for it. I felt pretty good that Sunday and had a really energetic workout. On Monday I started dayshift and I had energy to burn all four days. I woke up at 3AM and went to the gym for a really good workout, followed that with a 12-13 hour shift and when I got home that evening, I fed up everything with gas still in the tank. Energy levels after the second fast were crazy high. Almost weird. I am sure the ketones were bouncing around at a crazy rate, maybe even to a level I had not experienced. This is why I am bummed the ketone meter did not come in on time. I'm really interested in the ketones and depths of ketosis throughout the fast. (mostly 'just to know'). I don't think I am at a point to give out advice or recommend a fast to anyone but so far, I have one 71 hour fast that felt ho-hum afterwards and another that left me with energy to burn all week. It may have lasted five or six days before it planed back out to more normal. For me, it sounds harder to do than actually do. Scott

I planned the fast for these three nights. I am not sure how long it will las this time. I have been eating like a horse as of late and I think my body was getting use to the 'extra'. I had a pretty good lift this morning and skipped the breakfast meal I have had for the last several weeks. My meal at lunch today was six eggs. 8 hours in and my blood sugar is at 70. I started today at 222lbs which is up 8 in the last two weeks but still 84 down from last May. Totally bummed that my ketone meter did not arrive in time. I went to several places in town and none were available. Not knocking on the pharmacist but she assured me the strips provided me with all the information I needed. Sometimes we can choose our battles. Today I chose not to educate someone with more education than me. Maybe another day. 8 hours deep and I won't say I am hungry, but I will say I know I didn't eat three times today. (if that makes any sense at all). Scott

I'm glad to hear it. As of late, I would be in a lot of trouble. LOL Scott

I had a fairly good workout this morning and skipped breakfast to make an early morning appointment. I just got home and had 6 eggs for lunch. Crack them in the pan and wait for them to be just about ready to flip and then a light scramble. Hard to beat. Quick, easy and hits the sweet spot. Scott

I was with you til you said anchovies...... LOL Scott

Since bumping my protein grams per day up I am in the range of 6-10 per day. I like them most any way but mostly I crack them in the pan, and just about when they have cooked enough to flip, I do a soft scramble. But I like eggs just about any way they are cooked. Scott

Book "1 of 1" has been spoken for. Just saying. Scott

I have been doing mostly full body lifting coupled with the walking and the pushups/air squats along the walk. I have just worked out on my days off and just recently started working out before work when I am on days. I may work out/walk three or four days in a row and then three-four-five days of just working. As of late I don't feel like I'm 'getting it done' so I have started to do splits and keep the body parts about 72 hours apart. The big change will be working out before or after shift to maintain that lift/rest rotation. I lifted at from about 5AM til a little after 6AM on both Saturday and Sunday. It was back and biceps on Saturday and chest and triceps on Sunday. Between getting up earlier, the actual lifting followed by a 12 hour shift I am feeling it this morning. Maybe it was the more than I am use to per muscle group, or the getting up and going a little earlier, but I'm tight and sore throughout my upper body. Today I'm going to catch up on a few things around the house, pick up limbs and what nots from last nights storm and maybe even set the rear end in the 1950 Chevrolet chassis I just built. Babbling on, but without the fatty carnivore approach I don't think/would not have had the energy to get to this point at 55. I always add I stumbled onto the health benefits thru ignorance and luck but the way I feel now vs. ten months ago might be lottery like. Scott

When the Orweller book of 'sayings' and 'analogies' comes out, can you drop me a line? Scott

I lifted the last two days before work. Yesterday I was fine all day. No issues completing the shift. Today, I'm feeling it a little bit and I'm almost dragging thru the last three hours. I read somewhere it would be worth it. LOL Scott

I alternate days with the weighted vest. Mine is too heavy but the weighted bags are incredibly hard to move in and out of the pouches. I wish I had bought a different brand. Without the weight of a vest a small back pack can do the same thing. However, "Ruck-sacking" may bring back memories. Scott

Eating for fuel is something I grew up with since childhood. My Pops would always say things like, "Eat you breakfast we have pour concrete/frame a house/lay shingles/fix a truck". You name it. We would eat our big family Sunday dinner after church and he would always say things like, "Eat up, we got a long 40 hours this week". I think that is why I grew up to be such a boring eater. I never needed the variety, and I don't remember ever being excited about a new restaurant or trying something new. I think being a boring eater really helped me shift to Carnivore. It was perceived as fuel for a bunch of years and now I see it as fuel. Scott

It would not be ideal but if you need that to get yourself to a better place, by all means that can be your path. Not exactly the same but along the same lines. I thought I went cold turkey on sugar when I started but I had never been much on drinking just water. I used drink mixers the first couple three months. There were some hidden sugars in the packets and over time I worked myself off the mixers and now it is plain water. I didn't realize I was doing it at the time, but I was weaning myself off of sugar thinking I went cold turkey. That process worked for me. Now I am a zero sugar-zero carb eater but a mistake I made early on allowed me to get to this point. I am sure the Carnivore Police will frown upon the onions and garlic but if you use it as a tool to get to a better place, well, you getting to a better place is the object of the game. Scott

Probably the most underrated exercise. Scott

LMNT is a good choice. I didn't like the taste but I know several that do. There is some stuff out there about some extra sugars but I think the amounts are small, but they were sort of misleading. I basically went to youtube and watched a video for making my own electrolyte drink at home. A really good drink can be made for pennies a days vs. dollars on the pre-made packets/drink mixers. After time I am mostly using the electrolyte mix I made as my 'table salt' and then drink plain water. Congrats on starting the carnivore diet and welcome to the forum. For some it can be a tough go when getting started but it is well worth the efforts. Scott

For me, my fastest losses/most consistent losing was OMAD with a tad bit of meat snacks here and there plus walking for distance. It peeled off. My stalls were around drinking milk on occasion and fat content dropping. Scott

off topic............. Do you have any idea how much a person can save by quitting drinking? The wife was good for 5-7 bottles of $20 wine a week and I would polish off a $45 fifth, twice a week. Yeah, we were blowing as much as $800 a month on alcohol.... i have a welder buddy at work who just went 1 year sober. Like almost lost his job from not being sober in the mornings. He said he was spending as much as $1000-$1200 a month on drinking, which was what he drank, the bars, the partying and some months even more. He said if he factored in the DUI's from the previous year, he saved $35,000 in 2024. He said part of him getting sober was to every time he thought about a bottle or drinking; he would transfer that much money from checking to savings. He said he was amazed at how fast it added up. I have heard crazier things I guess. Scott

Sort of the same boat. I am more than likely adapted to not having the plant matter. My best reasoning is that I no longer take gabapentin/neurontin and prednisone for pain and inflammation from my NMO/SD. I had no idea of this as a possibility when I started as this was solely a means to lose weight. I am sure I could go back to plants here and there and maybe find out which one or ones trigger the inflammation. I'm not sure which one or ones, but I really do not think I need to know nor even want to know. I am not sure if it is just being cautious or being afraid, but my worry would be I find out which one and Carnivore can't fix it the next time. (most auto-immune diseases progress with time) I don't see me switching back to non-carnivore, and not even in lesser amounts or 'keto'. If the question was personal preference, or I like eating vegetables, or I need some variety, or whatever, that would be one thing, but for me personally, it is a different kind of gamble. I can't see rolling those dice. Scott

Carnivore has given me some self-enlightenment that other than allowing me to reflect, serves no purpose. LOL Ten months I could eat twice as much as I can't eat now. I'm not sure if I was never really that hungry and the cravings and addictions to sugar just made my brail tell me I was still hungry and thus, I kept eating. Or, maybe now after only eating things that truly satiate and leave me full with much lesser amounts, my stomach has shrunk, and I have given myself a natural 'lap band' without the surgery. I don't know. Maybe a combination of the two. On the days I counted and truly hit 200 grams of protein (1 gram per pound) it included a protein shake. Thinking back, I feel like I could have knocked out 200 grams and really wanted to know what was for dessert. (In my mind I would be moving the knife from a normal slice of pie over to a mongo slice). Easy peazy. Scott

As normal, I'm the dumbest guy in the room. I started off not counting anything. I just ate til I was full and then ate when I was hungry which morphed into OMAD. The weight peeled off at a rapid rate. I dropped down 92lbs in just shy of 9 months. The last month or so, maybe longer, I have switched my approach and have "semi-counted' grams of protein trying to hit a target for muscle growth. I shoot for 1 gram per pound of lean body weight which puts me around the 200-gram mark, give or take. I would say I eat like a horse to get to that mark, but it feels more like two horses. Most days I am around the .7 to .8 per pound mark as it hard for me to eat that much in one day. On Thursday I ate 4 eggs and a maybe 6-7 ounces of a leftover ribeye for breakfast (maybe 60-65 grams of protein). I ate another 4 eggs at lunch time (20-25 grams) and at supper I did all I could do to eat a 1/2 chicken. I simply could not do it. Like I said, two horses. I still have love handles and visceral fat that 'could be lost'. I no longer have tons of fat to be burned so there may be some efficiency issues as well. I eat a lot of fat and maybe even at a higher percentage per ounce of meat than most. (I like it so I eat it, maybe even to excess). I'm on a zero-carb/zero-sugar approach with the exception of a glass a milk once a week maybe, once every two weeks. I drink only water. The last month I have gained 8-9 pounds. The daily number fluctuates a pound or two each way, but it has been a solid 9-pound gain. I'm lifting harder and I am stronger now at 55 than 25. (always really weak for my size). On an occasional glimpse I see some muscle and some growth but definitely not 9 pounds in a month. Although I feel like I am eating the right things I know I am eating the 'wrong' amounts and in turn my weight has increased. For the first time in ten months, I had to move my belt in the other direction. The weight, the eating and that entailed was not near the punch in the gut as letting the work belt out. That sucked. I believe wholeheartedly that what I eat is more important that how much I eat, but the "how much" factors too. If I had the time or the inclination, I could convert the grams of proteins and fats to their respective calorie amounts and then use that number to define the deficit, maintenance and surplus lines that help sell 'CICO'. I can almost see maintenance and I can see surplus, but I don't think any of us ever really get into a deficit because a deficit is called starvation, and that takes time. Most everyone carries enough bodyfat to not go into deficit regardless of how much they eat. I agree with Orweller, "calories" is one of the biggest and most profitable businesses in the world. I don't see much of that changing. Scott

I haven't up until recently. I am trying to hit a protein target each day so I do count grams of protein. Other than that I don't keep up with calories or amounts of fat. I too use an occasional protein shake as some days I simply don't feel like I can eat that much protein. Scott