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He was accused of using steroids and denied it, and then later fessed up and admitted that he is/was using steroids.

I was strict carnivore but recently I have been sitting somewhere between meat-based keto and relaxed carnivore. Although I am considering going pure Lion Diet for 30 days... maybe.

I came across this video just now that someone posted in another group. I haven't watched it yet but I thought it might be worth sharing with you @Andre...

Welcome Mitch! I completed your survey. I hope it helps and that you get a lot of participation.

This begs the question; do you really have that much weight to lose? Carnivore is a weight optimization diet. You're aiming for 15% body fat. Your body might be telling you that you have already achieved optimization. If you are going to force it to lose more, you will really have to push for it. And your body has adjusted it's metabolism to this new established pattern. Change it up. I suggested some ways in my first response to you... https://carnivoretalk.com/topic/264-fat-loss-on-a-strict-carnivore-diet/?do=findComment&comment=1742 That does work, even if it means going hungry. A carnivore diet that's moderate protein and high fat should help satiate you for longer periods of time, making it easier to eat less calories or intermittent fast. When you are obese, just eating a proper diet melts the fat away. But as has been repeated here, and in that Dr. Berry video, that the last 10-15 pounds are the most stubborn. You do have to work it off. Again, it could be that your body is saying this is your optimal weight, and what's going on here is that you are having a disagreement with your personal physiology.

This is legit. I am currently listening to a book called Brain Energy that explains the links between metabolic health and mental health. It's interesting overall, although there are some boring parts, lol.

Welcome aboard Ruth @Lizalizard Awesome. Get back on board and stick with it. This is always a difficult question to answer. I guess technically it is an animal product. But your next question kinda throws a wrench into things.... Yes it will. Honey is full of sugar and carbs, and even a small amount will kick you out of ketosis until you have used those carbs up. If being in ketosis is your goal, for the sake of losing weight or reversing/curing a health issue, then you will want to stay away from honey. If you are metabolically healthy and happy with your weight, a little honey isn't going to do you any harm. Yes, milk has 8g of sugar (lactose) per cup. Like honey, this will bump you out of ketosis for a while, depending on how much you drink. Those of us who are trying to do a ketogenic form of a carnivore/animal-based diet will avoid milk and honey.

I thought this article had interesting things to say regarding vegans having increased risk of hip fracture, and the reasoning behind it. Of course, they then try to drown out that fact with "but vegan diets are soooo good for you" lol.

Bone Health And Diet: Researchers Say Vegetarians At 50% Higher Risk Of Hip Fracture By Suneeta Sunny A recent study has found that vegetarians are at 50% increased risk of hip fracture. MICROSOFT A healthy diet and lifestyle habit is essential for bone strength. However, a new study has found that a vegetarian diet, even though considered beneficial for preventing several diseases such as cancer, blood pressure and diabetes, can lead to an increased risk of hip fracture in both men and women. Studies have shown that vegetarian women were at an increased risk of hip fracture, although the exact reasons were not known. Since the studies evaluating the impact of a vegetarian diet on men's bone strength were inconclusive and small-scale, a team from the University of Leeds, the U.K., decided to conduct a large-scale study. The researchers evaluated 413,914 participants from a UK Biobank project and collected details of their diet. The participants were classified as regular meat eaters (who ate meat five or more times a week), occasional meat eaters(who ate less than five times a week), pescatarians (who ate fish but not meat) and vegetarians (who consumed dairy products). There were 3,503 cases of hip fracture in them. The risk of hip fractures in vegetarians was 50% higher, while pescatarians had a slightly greater risk (8%) than regular meat eaters. "Hip fractures are a growing problem in an aging society, and can trigger debilitating health conditions and a loss of quality of life," study lead James Webster, a doctoral researcher in the School of Food Science and Nutrition, said in a news release. However, the study does not undermine the overall health benefit of a vegetarian diet. "The health benefits of a vegetarian diet, including a lower risk of cancer and cardiovascular disease, may still outweigh any increases in hip fracture risk. This study shows that whilst vegetarians face a greater risk of hip fracture than meat eaters – at 50% – this translates to just 3 more hip fractures per 1000 people over 10 years," Webster said. Researchers believe that despite the benefits of a vegetarian diet, the chances of not getting adequate protein from food may be the reason for decreased bone strength. "Our analysis suggests that low BMI may be a key factor in why their risk is higher. Additionally, vegetarians were about 17% less likely to meet protein recommendations than meat eaters. So, important messages from our study are that vegetarians need to ensure they are getting a balanced diet with enough protein and maintain a healthy BMI. This will help vegetarians to maintain healthy bones and muscles," Webster added. Published by Medicaldaily.com ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.medicaldaily.com/bone-health-diet-researchers-say-vegetarians-50-higher-risk-hip-fracture-470604?utm_source=pocket_saves

Alright, that's it, I am pulling my lamb out of the freezer to thaw, lol

At the same time, I wouldn't get too concerned about the difference between 137 and 136.6. My weight can fluctuates 3 pounds or so with no differences in my day to day diet, between 174 and 177. Tomorrow you could step on the scale and that .4 pounds is back.

Of course, we hypothesize that modern drugs and diet contribute to this, of which the article makes no mention. Some people say the blame lies on the idea that people are living longer these days. But notice the age of Dr. Alzheimer's patient... Only 50? That is incredibly young. Much younger than any dementia sufferer I have ever known. But it does make me wonder what kind of drugs and diet were common in the late 1800's, or what this lady's diet and medical history was. Because 1901 is before the invention of vegetable seed oils.

Either one, but probably fat. You should eat your ideal body weight in grams of protein (140g) at a minimum, and then eat an equal or greater amount of fat or carbs (140g or MORE). 140 protein = 560 140 fat = 1260 Total minimum calories = 1820 If you add 20g of fat (160g) you are at 2000 even. You are eating either 2 meals (1000 calories) or 3 meals 1500 calories a day, for a max of 1500 calories a day according to your average of 500 per meal, and you are my height. AND you're active. It's no surprise you are losing weight.

I don't have much lamb experience either. I have had ground lamb and cooked it up like ground beef. It was very tasty. I bought 3 little lamb chops (I think that's what they are, they are very small) a couple months ago but they are still frozen. I keep forgetting to thaw them out and cook them up. I have no idea what that is, and a web search shows me results for actual thin sheets of gold. Ironic isn't it. There are several times where I am frustrated with a weight loss stall, and then I have a heavy day of eating thinking it's gonna work against me and somehow I break my stall, lol.

Alzheimer’s may stem from modern lifestyles, new study suggests Story by BY JUDY SIEGEL-ITZKOVICH © (photo credit: SHUTTERSTOCK) Alzheimer’s disease (AD) – the most common type of dementia – was first discovered by clinical psychiatrist Dr. Alois Alzheimer who described a 50-year-old woman, Auguste Deter, in a Frankfurt psychiatric hospital in 1901. It affects one person in 14 people over the age of 65. one in every six people over the age of 80, and one in three in people aged 85 and older. But did AD always affect the population? The Bible – which doesn’t hide illnesses – has no mention of it; some of our forefathers and foremothers (but not Sarah) suffered from vision problems, weakness, and other physical problems at the end of their lives, but nothing about dementia. Medical texts from 2,500 years ago rarely mention severe memory loss, suggesting today’s widespread dementia stems from modern environments and lifestyles, according to a new study at the University of Southern California. A mosaic of the Roman goddess of the hunt, Diana, hunting a doe. (credit: Wikimedia Commons)© Provided by The Jerusalem Post A mosaic of the Roman goddess of the hunt, Diana, hunting a doe. (credit: Wikimedia Commons) A new analysis of classical Greek and Roman medical texts suggests that severe memory loss – occurring at epidemic levels today – was extremely rare 2,000 to 2,500 years ago, in the time of Aristotle, Galen, and Pliny the Elder. The research, published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease under the title “Dementia in the Ancient Greco-Roman World Was Minimally Mentioned,” bolsters the idea that Alzheimer’s disease and related dementias are diseases of modern environments and lifestyles, with sedentary behavior and exposure to air pollution largely to blame. “The ancient Greeks had very, very few – but we found them – mentions of something that would be like mild cognitive impairment,” said first author and gerontologist Prof. Caleb Finch. “When we got to the Romans, and we uncovered at least four statements that suggest rare cases of advanced dementia; we can’t tell if it’s Alzheimer’s. So, there was a progression going from the ancient Greeks to the Romans.” Historical mentions of memory loss Ancient Greeks recognized that aging commonly brought memory issues we would recognize as mild cognitive impairment) but nothing approaching a major loss of memory, speech, and reasoning as caused by Alzheimer’s and other types of dementia, he continued. Finch and co-author Stanley Burstein, a historian at California State University in Los Angeles, pored over a major body of ancient medical writing by Hippocrates and his followers. The text catalogs ailments of the elderly, such as deafness, dizziness, and digestive disorders, but makes no mention of memory loss. Centuries later, in ancient Rome, a few mentions crop up. Galen remarks that at the age of 80, some elderly begin to have difficulty learning new things. Pliny the Elder notes that the senator and famous orator Valerius Messalla Corvinus forgot his own name. Cicero prudently observed that “elderly silliness … is characteristic of irresponsible old men, but not of all old men.” The Greeks and Romans were mainly concerned with the physical frailties of older ages. Finch speculates that as Roman cities grew denser, pollution increased, driving up cases of cognitive decline. In addition, Roman aristocrats used lead cooking vessels, lead water pipes and even added lead acetate into their wine to sweeten it – unwittingly poisoning themselves with the powerful neurotoxin. A few ancient writers recognized the toxicity of lead-containing material, but little progress was made in dealing with the problem until well into the 20th century. Some scholars blame lead poisoning for the fall of the Roman Empire. For this paper, Finch didn’t just think about the Roman Empire or the Greeks. In the absence of demographic data from these ancient cultures, Finch turned to a surprising model for ancient aging – today’s Tsimane Amerindians, an indigenous people of the Bolivian Amazon. The Tsimane – like the ancient Greeks and Romans – have a preindustrial lifestyle that is very physically active, and they have extremely low rates of dementia. An international team of cognitive researchers led by psychology and gerontology Prof. Margaret Gatz found among older Tsimane people. “The Tsimane data, which is serious, is very valuable,” Finch said. “This is the best-documented large population of older people that have minimal dementia, all of which indicates that the environment is a huge determinant on dementia risk. They give us a template for asking these questions.” ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/alzheimer-s-may-stem-from-modern-lifestyles-new-study-suggests/ar-BB1hK7Dg

Sounds absolutely delicious. I've been on a beef only kick the last 2 days. For breakfast I have had a pound of ground beef and I made my own gyro seasoning and used some of that tzatziki sauce. For dinner I have had a NY Strip seasoned to my liking and ghee for dipping sauce. And I seem to have broke my stall. I have been oscillating between 175.5 and 177.5 for the last 2 months. Yesterday morning I was 174.7 and this morning I was 174.1 and I hope this trend continues, lol.

3 weeks is nothing. Did you watch Dr. Berry's video? He says he wouldn't even call it a "weight loss stall" or "weight loss plateau" unless you've been idle for 3 months. The last 10 pounds or so are hard to get off. They don't want to give up the ghost, lol. I was 225 a year ago. I started low-carb/dirty-keto in late February or early March, and then switched to clean keto in April, and then started carnivore on May 12th, 2023. When I started carnivore, I was 205. By the end of July I was 193. In mid-August, after 90 days, I started deviating a little here and there. My apple tree was ripe, and I would have an occasional salad or side veggie here and there. On September 1st I was 189. On October 1st I was 184.5. On November 1st I was 178.2. And on November 12th I hit my initial goal of 175. I have had several 3 week stalls along my journey, and right now I have been on a stall since mid-November, which has been 2.5 months. Only yesterday and today have I finally seen some movement again, as I weighed in at 174 both yesterday and today. I'm not religious and dogmatic about carnivore either. A proper human diet is meat and animal-based, but not necessarily strict carnivore. Some fruits and vegetables are benign, while others contain toxins that you may or may not be able to handle. Refined grains, sugars, seed oils, and processed foods which typically contain all three are best to be avoided. If you can hunt it, milk it, or pluck it from a branch or vine, you'll prosper vs eating out of a box or a wrapper.

Keep us posted.

That's beautiful. The creatinine is being cleared by your kidneys and not accumulating in your blood. This is what we want to see... in general. A carnivore diet or lifting weights will increase creatinine production, so you may see a little accumulation on your next labs. This is also expected. You will produce more urea nitrogen from a high protein diet. The ratio is a simple math formula -> 25 BUN divided by .73 creatinine = 34 Good plan. Your creatinine and BUN may go up due to protein consumption and exercise, but there are other ways to check kidney function should your anxiety get the best of you. And then remember that scientific research in the low carb and keto space has a differing opinion (backed by research) on cholesterol and LDL than the mainstream.

I wouldn't worry about this especially if you are eating a proper human diet and all your other markers are normal. My total cholesterol was as high as 588 at one point. If I recall, Dr. Berry's is in the high 200's and Dr. Kiltz was in the 300's. Have you watched any of Dave Feldman or Nick Norwitz videos on cholesterol and lean mass hyper-responders? By comparison, my BUN has been in the 50's 60's and 70's for the last 4 years. But I do have CKD, and it did go up on carnivore. But there are other markers I have had tested to confirm that I am not doing any damage. What was your creatinine on these same results?

Are these the before carnivore results or the after-some-time on carnivore results? I wouldn't worry yet. Most of what I see is common. Urea nitrogen in the blood (BUN) is a is a waste product that's created in the liver when the body breaks down proteins. On carnivore, you eat more protein, and this create more waste. You will see BUN and creatinine rise as a result, but this does not translate to kidney damage (remember, I have CKD). If you were to stop eating meat and swap it out for lettuce, you would consume less protein, produce less urea nitrogen, and less creatinine, and these numbers would go down. These marker can potentially say something about kidney function, but our diet will skew the results and raise false flags. Those on keto/carnivore don't subscribe to the "diet-heart hypothesis" and therefore don't believe LDL to be a concern anymore. You do however want low Triglycerides (under 150) and higher HDL (over 50). A 2:1 trig:hdl ratio or lower is desired. Yours is at a 1:1 ratio which is absolutely beautiful!

There's an Aldi at the end of my street but I almost never go in there. I will have to go check it out. Those prices are great. I usually get NY Strips at Sam's Club for $9.99/lb which is better than Meijer's usual price of $13.99/lb. But on certain holidays here in the USA, Meijer will have sales that slash the price to $6.99 or $7.99 a pound and I usually stock my freezer when they do

It's a composite chart that some individual published on Good Ranchers, and not the official Data and Research charts published by Food Compass. But the composite chart does use the actual Food Compass scores so the implication that Lucky Charms is better than a whole egg is definitely there in their scoring system. Various health classes and topics about fruits and vegetables were part of my curriculum when I was in school (I'm 48). It seems so fundamental I just assumed it was. I can remember studying about fruits and vegetables in class and then going down for a school cafeteria pizza at lunch, lol.

Better than an egg cooked in butter according to this, lol...