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Good day all. 

I'm trying to sort through all the contradictions of trying to burn fat and gain muscle at the same time. Being strict carnivore now should make this journey easier but I may be sabotaging my progress. Any weight training individuals here who have done this journey?

Here are a few questions I'm still dealing with as I hover close to 60 years old. 🙄

1. Even on carnivore , eating too many calories will store fat even though insulin is low?

2. Eating 500 calories less than maintenance plus walking 10,000 steps per day plus weight training 3 days a week will give me the desired results as long as I get enough protein and fat???

3. Should I only weight train on carnivore and just eat to maintenance and forget about calorie deficit and cardio and let my increase in muscle and increased metabolism handle the fat burning ???

Thank you to all who reply. 

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Sort of in the same boat. I'm 55 and went on the carnivore diet back in May. Thus far I have lost 86lbs over 8 months. I feel like the majority of the weight lost was fat, and I am sure there was some muscle loss as well.

I started walking and working out June about a month in and the weight was coming off on what average out to a pound a day for the first 30-40 days. 

The last couple months I have increased the lifting in intensity, weight and volume. I have did a mix and match on the approach. Some days I lift heavier with less sets/less reps and go to failure. On other days I don't lift as heavy and add in both sets and reps. I do splits on most days but at the end of the week I try to do at least one total body workout. After leaving the gym I walk anywhere from 3-4 miles. 

In the beginning I ate once per day. I was simply not hungry thus I was in a deficit most every day. 

As of late I am trying to off set some of the weight loss by eating more as well as hit protein targets to build muscle. I eat a big egg/meat breakfast in the morning, sometimes a meat lunch and then a big meat dinner. My weight loss has tapered off for the most part. I have been right around 85lbs lost for a month or more. 

I'd like to think the muscle is building under the fat that is remaining. I'm not sure. I am getting stronger as getting to failure is taking more weight, more sets and reps as the days go by. 

My best guess will be this will be individualistic. A lot is based on work, home and family so what is working for me might not be the best plan for others. I would say get your workout set and then adjust food intake up and down and see if your needle moves as you wish. Then adjust.

One thing for me, it is now really hard to eat enough to hit the protein targets. The breakfast meal is not so bad. The evening meal I'm seldom hungry so I am eating just to be eating. Constantly adjusting. 

Scott

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3.

As you are probably already aware I do not believe in the whole CICO theory. In my opinion and experience the only way you need to eat is to eat when you are hungry and then eat until you are full. No need to count anything. No need to weigh or measure anything. Just eat plenty of animal fat and animal protein. If when you finish a meal and you’re not satisfied yet then eat more until it no longer tastes good. The key thing is getting g enough fat. You do not “burn fat” through cardio or exercise. You burn fat by using ketones for fuel instead of glucose. If you never did any cardio again or ever lifted another weight you would still burn fat and lose weight and inches. By lifting weights you will more than likely gain weight but that would be a good weight because it would be muscle weight. To know whether you are losing fat or not is to keep a journal write down your total body measurements once a month. You will see a difference in size even if you don’t notice any weight loss. 
 

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That's helpful guys I appreciate it. I am skinny fat. Only shows in the abs. I'm sure lots of visceral as well. I have been gaining weight so started cardio in zone 2. As per Peter Attia. But I am noticing I'm beginning to slim down while muscling up. That's why I'm not losing weight I guess. Not that I was trying to loose weight. I'm 6' ,175lbs. I read somewhere that as you feed your body exactly what it needs and in the proper proportions, it returns to homeostasis. 

The body measurements are a good idea. I did but a keytone blood meter to measure the levels of keytone. Trying to figure it out. I know im using keytone for fuel because I don't eat any carbs. I would like to speed up the process a bit without losing muscle if possible. Good on you guys for figuring this carnivore thing out. Finally I am consuming enough protein to see results. It only took 58 years to get it right🙄

Happy carnivore month.

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