Do you proselytize carnivorism?

[ketomonster]

So far I'm zero for 5,  including my wife and father,   oh well maybe one day.

[Scott F.]

My son introduced me to the diet. he has been on and off about three times. Currently off.

My wife tried it twice lasting about a week to ten days each time.

We rode side by sides in West Virginia last fall and I had many conversations with the guys that rode. 

We are having a Super Bowl party out in the cabin and one of the guys out there is one of the ones in the discussion in the fall. He is now thirty pounds lighter, some inflammation is gone and is back to running a couple three miles a few times per week. He has slightly modified his diet to line up with his wife's keto efforts. He has used chatGPT to build a weekly diet and a weekly shopping list to hit his goals of protein consumption, fat and the minimal carbs. He is much deeper into the science than I am and was schooling me on a lot of things today. 

I'm 0 for 2 at my house, but one for two outside the house.

Scott

[ketomonster]

I think I'm learning diets are belief systems.  Yesterday I asked my dad to look into the carnivore diet.  He told me, he doesn't believe in not eating vegetables.  I guess I'm cold blooded but at this point I don't feel like bringing it up again to him or anyone else.  

[Geezy]

I don’t even try. Nobody really wants to hear anything about it unless they ask. 
Most people would rather put on blinders, satisfy their carbohydrate addiction and just take a pill to fix their diet related illnesses. 
If you try to talk to people about it without them asking you about it first you will just alienate them. 
The best thing you can do is just be a good example. When people see the changes in you they will be naturally curious as to how you did it. Some will be genuinely receptive but most will immediately close their minds because of years of brainwashing. 
For those that are receptive then ease them into it and don’t overwhelm them with facts and figures. Offer to educate them with books and videos about carnivore and offer to coach them if they want to learn more. 
For the closed minded just leave them be. 
My classic story of trying to help someone unsolicited was when a good family friend had an autoimmune disorder causing a terrible skin rash. We were visiting her on her birthday and she was complaining about how bad the rash was and she couldn’t get any sleep or relief. I kept my mouth shut until she said “ It’s a good thing I don’t own a gun or we wouldn’t be having this morning.” Well when someone starts talking like that I figured it’s time to step in. So I told her about carnivore being able to heal her autoimmune condition and giving her relief. Her reaction, as she took a drink of her Spite, was “ There’s no way I could give up my hamburgers.”
Conclusion , no matter how bad off they are some just won’t be willing to change. 

 

[Scott F.]

19 hours ago, ketomonster said:

I think I'm learning diets are belief systems.  Yesterday I asked my dad to look into the carnivore diet.  He told me, he doesn't believe in not eating vegetables.  I guess I'm cold blooded but at this point I don't feel like bringing it up again to him or anyone else.  

Agreed. Belief systems and habits. 

There was a meme and maybe it was here, not sure. When you bring up Carnivore, standing in front of them in better health/lost weight, and they are eating a super-sized meal from a fast-food joint with a mongo sized soft drink, and all of a sudden, they become a nutritionist or a doctor. These will always be a hard sell.

Scott

[Idunno]

If you have ever foraged for foods in the wild or hunted for food in the wild

youll know there’s more than just meat. The plants are food too

berries, fruits, herbs.

As a Type 1 Diabetic I consider a lot of Carnivores are mere tourists. You came around, heard of this new fad, and decided to try it 

but as a T1D the dedication deepens, drastically. As a t1d the food restrictions list goes up up up. The food rules border on highly difficult 

the addictions are closer related to the disease

But I hope to make some life changing improvements by learning here

[Orweller]

No. I won't tell a grown adult what to eat. Nor will I turn what I eat in a theological experience. The louder you speak, the less it works. 

Look good, feel good. Then when someone asks, explain how. 
 

9 hours ago, Idunno said:

As a Type 1 Diabetic I consider a lot of Carnivores are mere tourists. You came around, heard of this new fad, and decided to try it 

Well said. And they expect that quick result. Those are the crowd that one a magic pill. No magic to be found here. 

But when your back is against the wall, and carnivore is your last chance, as opposed to a lifetime of medication and procedures, that when there's nothing but hard work left. 

Like people attempting to go to the gym. They wait for motivation to carry them through, or want someone to go with them. You do these things alone, and share them with others that do the same. 

9 hours ago, Idunno said:

The plants are food too

berries, fruits, herbs

Yes, back up food, survival food, secondary. But in abundance....oh boy we've seen the havoc that can do on a population. Specifically when you consider that most plant foods are or poisonous, or are genetically altered to be more sugary, starchy, etc. It should not be a problem to have a bit of garlic, or an avocado, etc. it shouldn't be considered some sort of sin. What's next, the carnivore's creed? 

[Orweller]

On 2/9/2025 at 7:59 PM, ketomonster said:

I think I'm learning diets are belief systems.  Yesterday I asked my dad to look into the carnivore diet.  He told me, he doesn't believe in not eating vegetables.  I guess I'm cold blooded but at this point I don't feel like bringing it up again to him or anyone else.  

To most people, that may be so. Of course we know this not to be true. It's when one identifies oneself with one's opinion. We tend to wrap our identity around what we do.