So, a conversation with my son, who started me on carnivore for my health.

Son: “Dad, why do you eat vegetables?”

Me: “Well, because they’re good for you and I like them. “

Son: “Well they’re really not all that good for you but we’ll discuss that in a minute. So let me ask you this. Have you always liked vegetables?”

Me: “No, I hated them as a kid but your mother helped me learn to like them.”

Son: “Is there any vegetable you can eat without putting something on it or can you eat just like it is?”

Me: “No, I don’t think I could eat any of them just by themselves.”

Son: “So what do you like to put on them?”

Me: “Oh you know, butter, cheese, salad dressing, bacon, lots of seasonings.”

Son: “So what your saying is, it’s not the vegetables that you like, it’s what you put on the vegetables that you like.”

 

Ding,ding,ding,ding,ding went the bell in my head.

The majority of the toppings that I used on veggies was an animal product or sugary and that was the only way I could make them palatable.

 

My awakening is that if I can’t eat it plain without putting something on it to make it palatable then my body doesn’t need it.

 

As I heard Old Guy Carnivore say, “Food is no longer for pleasure and entertainment but is now for nutrition and health.

 

 

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The only vegetables that I can think of that I actually enjoy raw is green pepper, and cucumber, but those should be thought of as fruits, just like a tomato is acknowledged to be a fruit, and is tasty. Most fruits are, most vegetables aren't. I almost wanted to add cauliflower and broccoli to this list but then I thought about it and yeah, I would rather dip in in ranch or cook it and serve it with butter and salt.

9 hours ago, Geezy said:

Son: “Well they’re really not all that good for you but we’ll discuss that in a minute.

Did he? It almost sounds like he was onto this carnivore thing before you 🙂

Yes he did. That’s how I got started on carnivore. He explained to me about the toxins in plants and why they have them. He went on to explain why seeds and seed oils are so bad for us. He gave me several resources to study for myself and make up my own mind and when I did it all made sense to me. Perfect sense.
I figured I’d try it for 30 days and see what happens. I had so many improvements in that 30 days that I did another 30 days. It just kept getting better so I continued for 30 more. After 90 days I was healed of nearly every ailment that had plagued me for decades. Now 162 days later I know for a fact in my most inner being that this not only the right way to eat but it is the only way I will ever eat.
I told my wife the other day, that I’m so committed to this lifestyle now that if I’m ever in the hospital again that she’s going to be kept busy bringing me food to eat because I’m not eating the “heart healthy” food they try to shove on us.


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10 hours ago, Geezy said:

if I’m ever in the hospital again that she’s going to be kept busy bringing me food to eat because I’m not eating the “heart healthy” food they try to shove on us

Ironically, I started my carnivore journey in the hospital when I broke my ankle. They actually showed me a menu and I was able to order sausage, bacon, and eggs. I was in recovery post-op, and that was day 1 for me 🙂

Because I have a heart condition (AFib) they always put me on a “heart healthy) meal plan. I was ignorant back then but I’m not now.


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It's interesting. Usually I'm the one who starts arguing with my family about food. Imagine how they looked at me when I told them they don’t need to eat vegetables 🤣. I was that person who used to eat them frequently in every meal and even encouraged others to choose them as the main dish for their meals 😂

The food pyramid has to be the most successful scams in the history of the world. Most of us, if not all, were indoctrinated with so many falsehoods about the way we should eat.

My son lost 14-15 pounds in a couple weeks and I gave carnivore a try as the next diet hack. What was appealing to me was eating beef and bacon "as much as I want". That was quite the sales pitch. Imagine, "eat all you want and still lose weight", not exactly a hard sell.

I stumbled upon the 'side effects' of carnivore. No pain, no inflammation, off medicine I had been on for years, immune system bloodwork rebounding to normal levels, a sustainable energy throughout the day, and waking up ready to go as soon as open my eyes. (one drawback to waking up ready to go is like right now. I woke up at 3:15AM, felt good, felt like I had slept 'long enough' and I won't be able to go back to sleep. So this morning I will get an early start on the day and when this happens, I feel it later in the day but not to the point of crashing out tired.)

Geezy, is your son eating carnivore? Mine has been on carnivore three, nay four times in the last year or so. It lasts for thirty days or so for him. He sees all the benefits, but he and his wife eat out a lot and it can be done but it does have its share of difficulties. My wife gave it a couple three tries, a couple two week stints and then one for thirty. She lost some weight each time, but she likes the vegetables and the variety in her diet.

I have mentioned it before, but I think carnivore fits me really well because I was such a boring eater anyway. I don't need variety or spices or sauces or rubs or anything that alters the taste of meats. Forever I was a salt and pepper only, and salt and pepper on everything. As of late I don't care for pepper all that much, so I am a 'meat and salt' guy. I could eat the same thing every day without issue.

Scott

17 hours ago, Scott F. said:

Geezy, is your son eating carnivore?

He was but started allowing some carbs in and is now completely off the rails. He’s paying the price for that too. He was once a good example for me and now I’m trying to be a good example for him.

On 8/28/2025 at 12:38 AM, Asmaa said:

Imagine how they looked at me when I told them they don’t need to eat vegetables 🤣

We sound crazy to them for sure, lol.

I was that person who was super into vegetables. I raised my kids trying to force vegetables on them. It was the way I was raised. Now each child is not super fond of meat. They both eat some meat, but the daughter prefers chicken and the son is still addicted to pasta.

If only I could turn back time and tell them "You have to eat your meat" instead.

13 hours ago, Bob said:

We sound crazy to them for sure, lol.

I was that person who was super into vegetables. I raised my kids trying to force vegetables on them. It was the way I was raised. Now each child is not super fond of meat. They both eat some meat, but the daughter prefers chicken and the son is still addicted to pasta.

If only I could turn back time and tell them "You have to eat your meat" instead.

I was that kind of mom too. My eldest daughter eats what I prepare, as well as the food my mom makes—like pastries and rice. But my younger kids have become more picky and refuse to eat with me, and that really exhausts me and makes me upset 😆

Maybe they just need a little more time before joining us.