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Welcome aboard Bonnie! Interesting. I had to look up hemp hearts. I can see why they help with leg cramps. The magnesium content is pretty rich. Here's what's in 30g of hemp hearts... Calories: 166 Fat: 14.6g Carbohydrates: 2.6g Fiber: 1.2g Sugars: 0.5g Protein: 9.5g Magnesium: 210 mg Potassium: 360 mg To get that much from beef you would need to eat at least 2.5 pounds of muscle meat, and liver doesn't really have that much more. This is why people like Dr. Shawn Baker and Dr. Anthony Chaffee don't need to supplement because they easily eat 3+ pounds of beef per day. I'm about half that, so I need to supplement. Maybe. Maybe not. I would be interested in knowing which plant defense chemicals are in it. And then, do those compounds in those quantities effect you? So I am currently using Zentastic 4-in-1 Magnesium complex. It has Magnesium Glycinate, Malate, Taurate, and Lactate. I've chosen this because these 4 forms of magnesium help with cramps, the heart, metabolism, and don't cause loose stools. Many keto-carnivores like an electrolyte drink mix called LMNT which has magnesium, sodium, chloride, and potassium in it. Others like Keto Chow Daily Minerals. One serving has 400mg of magnesium which is plenty. It taste like donkey though so you have to split the serving and hide in in other drinks throughout the day, lol. Wonderful! I hope you keep seeing improvements! Welcome to the community!

I reached for one of these while I was out at Home Depot today, but then when I read the label I put it back. Even though this image says 9 carbs, the stick I grabbed at the store said 10 carbs. Immediately I thought to myself "10 carbs? How on earth are there 10 carbs in this meat stick? Well, the 5th ingredient is soy flour, and the 6th ingredient is corn syrup. And it comes before the "contains less than 2% of" section. The 2g of sugars is the corn syrup sothe remaining 8g carbs come from the soy four. The entire stick is 55g. 10g are soy and corn syrup, and 2% (1.1g) makes up the rest of the stuff. That means only 43.9g is actually a combination of beef, pork, and mechanically separated chicken (basically chicken flesh that was blasted off the bone). This means a little over 20% (about 1/5th) of your Slim Jim is not meat at all.

I came across some interesting articles today. This one is called "Everything You Need to Know About Eating Bears" and discusses which bears are more tasty than others and shares 3 ways to prepare a tasty bear dish... https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/bear-meat/ And then there is this article that talks about how the "Bear Vending Machine [is a] Huge Hit in Japan... https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/bear-meat-vending-machine/ Has anyone ever eaten a bear? @Geezy - are you ready to up your hunting game?

Depends how sick you are and what you are sick with. Since you said in your introduction post that your primary goal is losing weight, I think "Relaxed Carnivore" would be a fine place to start. I personally eased into carnivore gradually because I started doing low-carb / dirty keto again in March (low carb tortillas, breads, protein bars, sugar free jelly, etc.) and shortly after that started paying attention to Dr. Berry videos where he scoffed at so-called "keto" products and encouraged eating clean, just meat and veggies. So in April I dropped the processed "keto" foods and started eating clean keto. As the month went by, I started leaning towards ketovore because now I was consuming his YouTube content that talked about a carnivore diet. Being that I always believed in low carb, carnivore did make sense to me. Then in May when I broke my ankle, I went full carnivore - but usually in the "Relaxed Carnivore" category on that chart. I have done several stints of "Strict Carnivore" but I don't stick with it. I like my tea and I like my spices. So you could start in the left and transition to the right. Or you can jump right in wherever you are comfortable. Now if your "why" for doing carnivore was to reverse an auto-immune or chronic condition, then getting over to Lion Diet would definitely be the goal so you can eliminate everything for a while and then start adding things back in to test how you respond to them. But if weight loss is your primary motivation, then keto, ketovore, OR carnivore could be the sweet spot for you.

This discussion made me thing of this inforgraphic....

Yup. We recently wrote about all the variations... https://carnivoretalk.com/articles/carnivore-diet-resources/the-various-types-of-carnivore-diets-r11/ Which variation you pursue might depend on your overall metabolic health, your weight loss or health goals, your age, and your DNA. For those who adopt an Animal-based lifestyle, milk is carnivore because it is an animal product, and the same goes for honey. Many of these individuals still think "plants are trying to kill you" but not by means of their fruitage, and so they will eat seasonal fruit. We all agree that seed oils are the devil, lol. This might work well for you, especially if you are young and metabolically healthy and still keep your carbohydrates under 100g or so a day. Your "lower carb" but not necessarily ketogenic all the time. If you are wanting to heal health issues or lose weight, then a stricter form of carnivore is what you are after. No sugars. Zero carb. Just meat and salt. Some refuse spices while others will still enjoy them. It will often be recommended that you try Lion Diet (beef, salt, water) or "BBBE" (beef butter bacon and eggs) for 90 days as an elimination diet, and then slowly add in other meats, spices, etc, and see how you react. Regarding the ham and other cured meats, @Geezy explained it very well. For many of these, it was just in the brine solution that it soaked in and most of it rinsed off. That's why you will see "<1g carb" or "1 carb" but that is trivial compared to the donuts and candy you may have been putting down your pipe before. I eat beef jerky and processed meats, and I always make sure if less savory ingredients are on the label, that they come after the "contains less than 2% of....." portion at the end and it has 1 or <1 g of carbs/sugars. There's some beef jerky's where sugar or brown sugar is the 2nd ingredient and has 6 or more carbs per serving. Stay away from this. It's basically sugar glazed meat. I use avocado oil mayonnaise by Sir Kensington because I won't touch regular mayo anymore due to the seed oils. However, if I am out and about and don't have much choice, once in a blue moon isn't gonna kill me. After all, I've been slathering regular soybean oil mayo on my sandwiches for the last 48 years. I am okay with olive oil, coconut oil, and avocado oil too. I will occasionally still use jalapeno peppers and salsa when I simply need to satisfy a desire for something different. I've never been a big fan of olives, but I can eat them just fine. According to the animal-based people, the olive would be the fruitage and acceptable anyway. I also use mustard from time to time. Most restaurants will accommodate my special needs. But there are exceptions. For example, about once a month my family wants Mexican. If I just ask for meat then I feel like I am getting ripped off, so I will have a salad. They probably grill the fajita steak strips in seed oil, but again, it's a once in a blue moon thing and I'm not gonna die, lol. Also once a month the guy who works for me and I will go out for lunch. He's not big on fast food where I can just order beef patties and bacon, so he likes to go to Chipotle. I'll get a salad there also. I also drink hot tea in the morning and Zevia later in the day. So in a given month, I probably break true carnivore about for 3 or 4 meals. Two of them are salads. And then the occasional peppers and salsa. And right now I do eat a lot of processed meats because I pack a lunch and they make for easy packings. But I do think about getting a microwave for my tool trailer/truck so I can heat up some pure ground beef or leftover steaks instead. But even then, the pork rinds and beef sticks and cheese I eat all have pretty clean ingredients and I am still losing weight and have reverse some conditions while including them so they work for me.

I agree. There are things that make sense, and then there are things that make you scratch your head. There's no way that farmers generate a third of green house gasses, lol. It doesn't even begin to have the ring of truth to it. Planes, trains, automobiles, factories, etc, are spewing out tons of unnatural man-made emissions around the clock, but according to this pic... .... the cow is clearly the problem, lol.

Does The Carnivore Diet Help Your Mental Health? It Depends Story by Jennifer Betts Woman eating bacon© Brigitte Theriault/Getty Images You've been looking for a new diet plan, and low carb is hitting your radar hard. The carb-cutting carnivore diet has piqued your interest, but what is it? This diet takes your inner carnivore to the next level by only adding meat and meat products to your plate. It is a restrictive diet that cuts out dairy, fruits, veggies, and grains. This means that you're aiming for zero carbs a day. It's similar to other carb-restrictive diets, like paleo and keto, but takes it a step further, according to Healthline. A well-known supporter of the carnivore diet is Shawn Baker, an orthopedic doctor. He claims that this diet can help with various ailments like depression, anxiety, and arthritis. But there is a bit of controversy on how the carnivore diet benefits your mental health. While some applaud how the diet has helped to provide them with mental clarity and depression, it's also been noted that eating fruits and vegetables can make you happy. Looking at both sides of the argument can help you make an informed decision about whether you want to try this diet. Carnivore Diet Might Benefit Your Mental Health Happy person eating pork© Ground Picture/Shutterstock A supporter of the carnivore diet, Dr. Shawn Baker, has made some big claims about the mental benefits of the carnivore diet. Baker uses anecdotal evidence to support his assertions, but can they be backed up by science? According to Psychology Today, there is evidence that all-meat diets are effective in correcting chemical balances in the brain to benefit serious and chronic psychiatric symptoms. Dr. Georgia Ede spoke at the CarnivoryCon 2019 about the surprising differences between plant and animal foods stating that one of the benefits of the carnivore diet is that it includes the nutrients we need in their proper form. She went on to discuss how some plant compounds can interfere with the body's absorption of essential nutrients (via YouTube). Studies have also shown the benefits of eating meat to help depression and anxiety. Critical Reviews in Food Science and Nutrition reviewed the research of 20 studies looking at the levels of anxiety and depression in meat consumers and abstainers. The review stated that "meat consumption was associated with lower depression...and lower anxiety." The study did go on to note that the "analysis also showed that the more rigorous the study, the more positive and consistent the relation between meat consumption and better mental health." Eating Vegetables And Fruits Can Affect Your Happiness, Too Woman eating a vegan dish© Solstock/Getty Images While the positive mental benefits of eating meat can't be overlooked, fruits and vegetables might also have an impact on your happiness level. Research published by the American Public Health Association demonstrated that "increased fruit and vegetable consumption was predictive of increased happiness, life satisfaction, and well-being." The study looked at food diaries from 12,385 random adults in Australia during three different years. The data was also adjusted for income and personal circumstances. Co-author Redzo Mujcic, a health economics research fellow at the University of Queensland in Australia, was quoted in Live Science as saying, "Eating fruit and vegetables apparently boosts our happiness far more quickly than it improves human health." The article went on to note that carotenoids in vegetables have also been linked to increased optimism in some individuals. Additionally, 2021 research published in the Journal of Happiness Studies demonstrated that eating fruits and vegetables and exercising correlated with increased life satisfaction. The study analyzed data from the Understanding Society Database in the UK and used estimation methodology to find patterns between fruits, veggies, and exercise with overall life satisfaction. Since the research on eating only chicken and beef is divided, it's up to you to decide what's best for your mental health. Until we know more, it may be wise to stick with a more balanced dietary plan like the Mediterranean diet, which currently has strong evidence supporting its benefits for mental health (per Wise Mind Nutrition). The Mediterranean diet, which emphasizes whole plant foods while also allowing a moderate amount of meat and dairy, could be the best of both worlds. Read the original article on Health Digest. ----- ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/does-the-carnivore-diet-help-your-mental-health-it-depends/ar-AA1iDkXP

Here we go, lol....

True. Everything gets turned into a political issue these days. Kinda like how now where instead of using the words "GMO" (genetically modified organism) now they say "bio-engineered". Not to mention that the law states that you only have put that fine print somewhere on the package if more than five percent of the ingredients are GMO ingredients. The current law also already excludes foods derived from animals (such as eggs, meat and milk), refined ingredients like oils and sugars, food served in restaurants, and foods manufactured and sold by very small manufacturers (local shops, etc.) More reasons to support your local rancher.

View File Meat and mental health - A meta-analysis of meat consumption towards depression and anxiety.pdf In 2017, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported that mental illness was the leading cause of disability worldwide. They estimated that over 300 million people suffer from depression and over 260 million people suffer from anxiety. These estimates reflect a substantial increase in the number of people living with mental disorders over the past two decades... In parallel with increments in mental disorders, vegetarianism and veganism have become more popular and prevalent worldwide.. As a result, the question of whether meat consumption or avoidance is associated with better mental health has become a controversial issue in public health and nutrition science... Briefly, we found that the majority of studies showed that meat abstainers (vegetarians and vegans) had substantially higher rates or risk of depression, anxiety, and/or self-harm. Additionally, these groups were more likely to be prescribed medication for mental-health issues. Submitter Bob Submitted 11/28/2023 Category Research Studies  

In addition to communities like Carnivore Talk and some others, I also like keeping up with YouTube videos from carnivore diet doctors and influencers. It's easier to stay faithful when you keep feeding your mind with the right information.

Well if you were concerned about fluoride, there are several fluoride-free toothpastes you could choose... https://www.insider.com/guides/health/best-fluoride-free-toothpaste And of course, there is the good ole traditional baking soda and peroxide method that people use to use for years and years.

I wholeheartedly agree with you @Geezy. I put a little sweetener in my morning tea, although I could probably omit this if I wanted and still drink it. I also still drink diet soda, although I have switched from Diet Coke to Zevia because the Zevia is much cleaner, or "less bad" as Dr. Berry would say

I smoked for 7 years, from 1993 to 2000. For a while I still enjoyed the smell but now I despise it. If cigarettes were to become illegal, it wouldn't break my heart any. But... Whatever the law of the land is or whatever the policies of a private property are should be honored and respected. If it's legal, then the answer is no. If it's not legal, or violates the policy of the private property, then sure. Here in Ohio there used to be "smoking sections" inside restaurants and fast food locations, but in the mid-late 90's that became illegal and now there is NO indoor smoking permitted anywhere. I do think this was a good move

I played soccer in elementary school and junior high, and then I lost interest in most sports. I'm 48 now and it's rare that I play any sport unless I am entertaining younger kids in the family. I'm 5'8" also. I too did a lot of bowling, was even on leagues, back in my younger years. Never had a 300 game though. Got close a couple times.

I'm in Ohio. It's below freezing. There is snow on the ground. It sucks! lol. I will take 90 degrees, the hot sun, and my backyard pool over this hibernation weather every time.

You must be from overseas. I'm in Ohio, USA and here football is a totally different sport. What you call football, we refer to as soccer. I played soccer in school, but I don't follow soccer or many sports at all actually in my adult life.

Welcome to Carnivore Talk, @Henrywrites We're a community of individuals who believe in the health benefits of a carnivore diet lifestyle. We get along with meat-based keto and animal-based dieters as well. There's a lot to learn and as you do it really begins to make sense. If you're looking to lose weight, reverse disease, or optimize your health, we're here to help.

You probably burst into the bathroom like this.... I've had my fair share of volcanic gut activity due to sugar alcohols too, lol. Most recently I made some of "Dr. Kiltz's Carnivore Icre Cream" but I wanted to sweeten it up a bit. I used erythritol. ... too much erythritol, lol.

Erythritol is a sugar substitute that doesn't affect blood sugar. What to know. Story by Daryl Austin, USA TODAY When it comes to beverages, sweeter is often thought to be better. Whether it's with soda, smoothies or coffee, people work to ensure their favorite beverage is more palatable and enjoyable by balancing out any bitter taste with sweet additives. Sugar in the form of fructose, sucrose, sucralose, dextrose, honey, corn syrup or as a grain or cube remains the most popular way to sweeten a drink, but there exist a host of artificial options on the other side as well. Among them is erythritol − one of the most common artificial sweeteners available, according to the Cleveland Clinic. What is erythritol? Erythritol is a popular sugar substitute that's used in various foods and beverages and is available in both powder and liquid form. Along with maltitol, sorbitol, and xylitol, erythritol is known as a sugar alcohol − a type of carbohydrate that has a similar chemical structure to sugar. Despite their name, sugar alcohols are neither sugar nor alcohol. Erythritol naturally occurs in some fruits and fermented foods, "but the erythritol used as a sugar substitute is typically produced synthetically through a process that involves fermenting glucose derived from sources like wheat or corn starch," explains Jen Messer, a nutrition consultant and registered dietitian at Jen Messer Nutrition. Erythritol also occurs naturally in our bodies as part of normal metabolism, "but at levels much lower than the doses of erythritol synthesized commercially and used in packaged foods," says John DiBaise, MD, a physician in the Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology at Mayo Clinic in Arizona. Is erythritol good or bad for you? In addition to being an effective sweetener, erythritol is also sometimes marketed as a weight loss tool, though DiBaise says such marketing efforts may be overstated or misleading in some cases. Still, the organic compound does have some potential advantages over its sugar counterpart. Messer says such benefits include that erythritol has a negligible effect on blood sugar and insulin levels which makes it suitable for people with diabetes and those managing their blood sugar. It also doesn't promote tooth decay because oral bacteria cannot metabolize it effectively. Erythritol also retains its sweetness and stability at high temperatures, which makes it one of the best sugar alcohols to use for baking and cooking. And it is very low in calories compared to regular sugar. "It contains about 0.2 calories per gram, which is approximately 5% of the calories found in an equivalent amount of sugar," Messer explains. This can be helpful for individuals managing their body weight and seeking to reduce their caloric intake. Is erythritol safer than sugar? Because of such advantages, it would be easy to assume that erythritol is better than sugar, but the experts say that may not be so. For one thing, erythritol is only about "60-70% as sweet as sugar," says Messer. And while it's considered safe to consume, erythritol can cause numerous negative side effects. Frequent consumption of the compound can lead to digestive problems "such as bloating, gas and diarrhea - though it varies for every individual," says Lisa Young, PhD, RDN, an adjunct professor of nutrition at New York University and author of "Finally Full, Finally Slim." She adds that depending on one's sensitivity to sugar alcohols, "high consumption can also cause severe nausea, which can cause your body to become dehydrated." Because of these and other potential health complications, Young says she is "not a fan" of the sweetener for everyone, especially for those gastrointestinal issues. DiBaise echoes similar advice, even in users more broadly. "Caution and moderation should be given when consuming foods containing erythritol," he says. This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Erythritol is a sugar substitute that doesn't affect blood sugar. What to know. ------------------- Article Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/erythritol-is-a-sugar-substitute-that-doesn-t-affect-blood-sugar-what-to-know/ar-AA1gjHTV

Forgive me carnivore-father for I hath sinned, lol. Last night my family wanted to go to their favorite Mexican place. Trying to eat carnivore there is pretty miserable, so I just revert to keto and get a grilled steak salad and some shrimp. The salad will have grilled fajita vegetables, tomatoes, cucumber, and avocado. I'm generally okay with all that but I do imagine the fajita veggies and steak are probably cooked with a seed oil. Anyway, we only end up here about once every 2 months, so I'll live. I am up one pound this morning, though.