I’m in the middle of a long fast as I post this. Lol! 

why are you fasting? just curious

I fast for the immune system reset. The autophagy and HGH release and then the stem cells pour out into the body are all pluses. On top of that there is killer energy coming out of the fast that lasts two-three-four days. I’m tracking mine but I think my energy baseline is better after several long fasts. Hard to say that for sure but it sort of feels that way.

11 hours ago, ketomonster said:

why are you fasting? just curious

I fast for helping to treat/eliminate my MS and ankylosing spondylitis. Fasting along with a Carnivore diet have made huge improvements in my life.

The energy I develop during a fast is extraordinary. I feel my best while fasting for sure! It's surreal to me with the effect it has.

As soon as all our leftovers of "Carni-chow" are used up I'm starting another long fast. Might try for a 100 hours "Century fast" this time. My body will let me know how long to go.

11 hours ago, ketomonster said:

why are you fasting? just curious

During my devotional yesterday I was prompted by the Holy Spirit to fast as a spiritual remembrance of the suffering and death of Jesus Christ for my sins and then feast in celebration on the day of His rising from the dead to sanctify my salvation.

Thanks,

On 4/19/2025 at 9:41 AM, Terry said:

ankylosing spondylitis.

I got this thing too. Improved by 90% of symptoms gone. I do not fast, just eat when hungry. It's been a 33 year battle for me that now finally has been conquered, for the most.

1 hour ago, Orweller said:

I got this thing too. Improved by 90% of symptoms gone. I do not fast, just eat when hungry. It's been a 33 year battle for me that now finally has been conquered, for the most.

That's great to hear of your success. Spondy can be worse than my MS some days. Eating carny has helped it a lot but I'm still working on my symptoms.

On 4/21/2025 at 8:45 AM, Terry said:

That's great to hear of your success. Spondy can be worse than my MS some days. Eating carny has helped it a lot but I'm still working on my symptoms.

Mind you, strength training and lifting has also helped with AS. It can be crippling yes. Carnivore the all time best option for AS, in my opinion. Do not know about MS.

2 hours ago, Orweller said:

Mind you, strength training and lifting has also helped with AS. It can be crippling yes. Carnivore the all time best option for AS, in my opinion. Do not know about MS.

Each case of MS is so individual to that one person. It's kind of crazy.

I have NMO/SD and til it was differentiate/separated many NMO patients were treated with the MS approach. At some point the differences were determined and NMO/SD became its own thing.

Alot of the symptoms are similar, very similar, but the treatments can vary.

My doctor has highly recommended resistance training from the first diagnosis, even suggesting free weights over machines. Of course, like most patients, I didn't listen the first five to six years.

Where ever th eline crosses between carnivore and resistance training I feel better than I have in a really long time. My immunoglobulin numbers are inching back towards normal which is not a response of the immunosuppressants I have every six months.

I agree that both MS and NMO are different for everyone, but that normally is determined by what nerve gets attacked damaging the myelin. My left leg may not work and the next guy's right arm may not work, same lesion, different points of concern. It can be as individualistic as anything out there, yet be eerily the same.

Resistance training is one of the recommendations/suggestions I got very early after my diagnosis.

Scott

4 hours ago, Scott F. said:

I have NMO/SD and til it was differentiate/separated many NMO patients were treated with the MS approach. At some point the differences were determined and NMO/SD became its own thing.

Alot of the symptoms are similar, very similar, but the treatments can vary.

My doctor has highly recommended resistance training from the first diagnosis, even suggesting free weights over machines. Of course, like most patients, I didn't listen the first five to six years.

Where ever th eline crosses between carnivore and resistance training I feel better than I have in a really long time. My immunoglobulin numbers are inching back towards normal which is not a response of the immunosuppressants I have every six months.

I agree that both MS and NMO are different for everyone, but that normally is determined by what nerve gets attacked damaging the myelin. My left leg may not work and the next guy's right arm may not work, same lesion, different points of concern. It can be as individualistic as anything out there, yet be eerily the same.

Resistance training is one of the recommendations/suggestions I got very early after my diagnosis.

Scott

I do nightly yoga and stretches, which helps a lot, most nights. We got our Ebikes out today and went 17 miles and I feel really good right now. I can't walk very well to save my ass, but I can peddle that bike all day long. Luckily those bike muscles are still working.

I use Copaxone for my MS. I see my nuero next week and I'm telling her to not renew the scrip for it. 2 years use and not much to show for results.

I go back next month. My immunoglobulin numbers, Ima and ImG numbers were so far out of whack a few years back that my immune system didn't know if it were coming or going. One part did nothing but lay around and the other part was so active it was attacking anything that moved.

Since carnivore and now with consistent resistance training (but I think mostly carnivore,) my numbers have moved to the cusps of being normal. I am not going to look forward to them or hope as that seems to set expectations which might end up be a letdown.

I am going with I feel good and I am doing good so the numbers will fall where they may. If they get into that normal range my Neuro and me will have that conversation about the Rituxin/Rituxamab as well. This time next month I will know more.

Good luck with your conversation.

Scott

On 4/22/2025 at 11:19 PM, Terry said:

Each case of MS is so individual to that one person. It's kind of crazy.

I mean with AS, MS I know nothing about. And since you have a combination. Just for me, the lifting and carnivore has made it almost dissapear.

20 hours ago, Orweller said:

I mean with AS, MS I know nothing about. And since you have a combination. Just for me, the lifting and carnivore has made it almost dissapear.

That's my hope also, for it to disappear. Now that it's summertime for us again I like to get out in the yard and do whatever I can (cut the lawn, split firewood, Etc.) and on those days when I really push it is when I do seem to feel the best overall bodywise. Coming out of winter hibernation is always a rough time of year to "get going again".

When I was first diagnosed with NMO/SD I had a general fatigue. I was pretty much always tired and anything that took a lot of effort wiped me completely out.

When I had to go the 4th floor or the roof at the plant i was spent at the 2nd and 3rd floors. In order to hide that, I would go on the third floor and do an "inspection" of the bottom side of the process equipment. Once I gathered myself, I would go to the fourth floor where the operators work.

That went on for 5+ years but since I stumbled onto the medical side of the carnivore way of eating, coupled with the work in the gym I am much, much better.

This past weekend when we were in West Virginia there is a steel tank that is about 8 stories high, 17 flights of steps. At 55, I made it to the top with relative ease, not winded the least. The 28-year-old guy was just about gassed out half-way up and the 32-year-old young woman had to pause at the next to last flight.

With carnivore and the work in the gym I also feel like the more I do the better I feel.

Hoping that trend continues.

Scott

15 minutes ago, Scott F. said:

When I was first diagnosed with NMO/SD I had a general fatigue. I was pretty much always tired and anything that took a lot of effort wiped me completely out.

When I had to go the 4th floor or the roof at the plant i was spent at the 2nd and 3rd floors. In order to hide that, I would go on the third floor and do an "inspection" of the bottom side of the process equipment. Once I gathered myself, I would go to the fourth floor where the operators work.

That went on for 5+ years but since I stumbled onto the medical side of the carnivore way of eating, coupled with the work in the gym I am much, much better.

This past weekend when we were in West Virginia there is a steel tank that is about 8 stories high, 17 flights of steps. At 55, I made it to the top with relative ease, not winded the least. The 28-year-old guy was just about gassed out half-way up and the 32-year-old young woman had to pause at the next to last flight.

With carnivore and the work in the gym I also feel like the more I do the better I feel.

Hoping that trend continues.

Scott

I worked maintenance and electrical/electronic repair for 42 years, 30+ of those at a local screen printing plant. My wife and I both retired at 60 in 2021 and couldn't be happier with that decision. There would be no way I could still be working with my current state of MS. Thought for awhile about trying for disability but that comes with its own set of issues.

For all my symptoms, MS fatigue is by far the worst feeling I get. kind of like flu weakness but you are not sick. AGGRAVATING for sure. Thats been greatly reduced for quite awhile now. Hoping that tightening up on the carnivore foods has helped. I got a little sloppy with food choices there for a while. Dairy and cheese is pretty much out of my diet now. I find dairy to be very addicting to me. A few nuts left on the shelf and then those are finished. I still add heavy cream to my morning decaf and about 4 times a year I eat a big bowl of popcorn but I load it with lots of butter, so....? It's just something I enjoy eating. If that's going to kill me then so be it 🤣

I got a 120 pound weight set here but no bench. I got some big timbers laying around and need to build a bench and start pumping once again. In fact you have motivated me to work on that today - Thank you

Good luck.

Pretty much the same. Not sick, the least little bit left me gassed and then it took forever to get it back together to do something else.

The infusions helped a lot but they are ever six months and the couple months before the infusion I started dragging. Since carnivore and the gym that has all but went away. My immunoglobulin bloodwork is coming due and the last time (maybe three-four months ago) my numbers were inching back to the 'green' (normal). This is all carnivore and the gym as the infusions just keep my immune system suppressed and does nothing for the underlying/root cause of the NMO/SD. I go back in about two weeks.

The only thing really lingering, and maybe it is some better, is that if I squat down, or get up from a lowered position quickly, I get a bit dizzy/lightheaded. Heart rate and blood pressure check fine, blood sugar has never been an issue and it started when I first got sick in 2018. I had a number of lesions on my brain, neck, and spinal cord. I had a lot of mobility issues at that time.

Best guess is it is lingering scar tissue from the lesions, or at least that is what is pictured in the MRI.

Being a Navy guy I am hoping to work back up to doing burpees and 8-count bodybuilders. If I drop down, kick my legs back, get the pushup in, legs under and stand up......I may stagger, or fall and be out for a couple seconds.

But I am 99% healthier now on carnivore than before with a boat load of energy just about all the time. If I have it narrowed down to just not being able to do burpees, I guess I can give carnivore a pass on that one. LOL

Scott

6 hours ago, Terry said:

I worked maintenance and electrical/electronic repair for 42 years, 30+ of those at a local screen printing plant. My wife and I both retired at 60 in 2021 and couldn't be happier with that decision. There would be no way I could still be working with my current state of MS. Thought for awhile about trying for disability but that comes with its own set of issues.

For all my symptoms, MS fatigue is by far the worst feeling I get. kind of like flu weakness but you are not sick. AGGRAVATING for sure. Thats been greatly reduced for quite awhile now. Hoping that tightening up on the carnivore foods has helped. I got a little sloppy with food choices there for a while. Dairy and cheese is pretty much out of my diet now. I find dairy to be very addicting to me. A few nuts left on the shelf and then those are finished. I still add heavy cream to my morning decaf and about 4 times a year I eat a big bowl of popcorn but I load it with lots of butter, so....? It's just something I enjoy eating. If that's going to kill me then so be it 🤣

I got a 120 pound weight set here but no bench. I got some big timbers laying around and need to build a bench and start pumping once again. In fact you have motivated me to work on that today - Thank you

Cheap and dirty, but it will work 🙂. I have been using the weight plate in my wood shop for glue-ups. Now i need to find something else for that use. My health is more important these days than my woodworking.

That is spot on. I'm a simple guy myself. If it works, it works.

Arnold and Franco started somewhere. LOL.

Nice work. It will most definitely serve the purpose.

Scott

2 hours ago, Scott F. said:

That is spot on. I'm a simple guy myself. If it works, it works.

Arnold and Franco started somewhere. LOL.

Nice work. It will most definitely serve the purpose.

Scott

I put up 60 lbs on the bar and found out I'm not a young/strong person anymore 🤣