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Sort of pick up around 16 minutes. It gets into breaking a fast with high fats/moderate proteins and how that can mimic the fast and extend the benefits of ketones days after breaking the fast.

I think this sort of explains the two to three days of being super energetic after the end of the extended fasts. I am thinking it is an individual response as well but in theory, this video sort of backs up how I was feeling.

Tonight, I hit 72 hours of the water fast. It has been pretty similar as the other fasts and is actually much easier than it sounds. There was a time I barely went 96 minutes without eating something or drinking a soft drink and back then going 96 hours without eating would be straight craziness. I'm probably going to break this fast around 84 hours tomorrow morning when I get home. This possibly can go to the video posted about "fasting too much". Since I have body fat to "spare" the longer fasts can help with fat loss but more importantly it is the metabolic return. Since I am 90+ pounds lighter than I was 11 months ago I may get to a point where there is diminishing returns on the length of the fasts as well as how often I do them. The fasting should be providing some stressors to the body and at some point, the body will start to adapt making the fast a normal part of life. From there, with that normalcy, it could start losing some of its effect. I read the 'body is smarter than the brain' and at some point, we need to listen to our body more than we do with the brain'.

This video and Dana White had a couple good excerpts (and the ones I am experiencing but could not figure out how to explain). We are constantly exposed to food thru brilliant marketing. There is pretty much no part of our daily life where this 'brilliant marketing' keeps food at our disposal. During the fast, for me between 48 and 72 hours, I am not physically hungry, and my body is not calling for any type of sustenance. I have a ton of energy. I feel really good. I'm pulling 12–13-hour night shifts. I am going to the gym the morning after the shift. My body is telling me it is in a good place. However, my brain is constantly thinking about food. I'm watching a video on carnivore and fasting, and every frame is a person cutting an amazing piece of meat. I immediately start thinking about eating and how I am going to break the fast. This would taste really good right now and my brain starts the negotiation about 48 or 72 hours is long enough and the benefits are there already so let's eat now. We have an over-abundance of food access, and the marketers have made it OK to walk around the house and eat out of habit and boredom, which is a vicious cycle in itself.

Babbling again. But the last part of the video sort of proofed how I felt coming off my last couple of fasts. Being fat adaptive already, fasting followed by a high fat/moderate protein breaking of the fast keeps the ketones going for longer after the break. The opposite would be if I did the same fast and broke it with a heavier carb meal which would kick me right out of ketosis and the ketones would be drastically reduced, if not stopped altogether.

The more I look into it, there may be something to this carnivore thing after all. LOL

Scott

1 hour ago, Scott F. said:

The fasting should be providing some stressors to the body and at some point, the body will start to adapt making the fast a normal part of life. From there, with that normalcy, it could start losing some of its effect.

I dunno…we eat carnivore mimicking our ancestors and fasting was a part of their daily existence. They feasted as long as they had food but then fasted when they had to hunt again. I believe it’s a natural part of our physiological system.

I tried to imagine this last hunting season and even thought about only eating if I killed something but the game laws prevented me from trying it.

True.

But we have evolved to a point/conditioned ourselves over time to not mimic our ancestors. Somewhere along the lines we used technology and indulgence and maybe even some gluttony to get away from where we started. There is a short clip from Dr. Attia in the video that speaks to that as 'we may have outsmarted ourselves when it comes to our way of eating'.

I agree the carnivore approach mimics our ancestors, especially when carnivore leads you to one meal a day and sometimes less. For me, and just speaking for me, OMAD works really well but I am sure our ancestors didn't have the luxury nor the 'hunting luck' to eat every day. I am guessing OMAD is "sorta-kinda" mimicking our ancestor, but I would guess there was a day or two in between most of the time.

Your thoughts on eating when you were successful would be quite the social experiment. It would be a link to why when you are 'fasted' and the ketones are high; you get that mental clarity and focus. If we had spears and rocks, I doubt we kill much being stuffed, or "fat, dumb and happy".

Talking about a real life-real time experiment, this would be the one.

Scott