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Do you proselytize carnivorism?
Orweller replied to ketomonster's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
No. I won't tell a grown adult what to eat. Nor will I turn what I eat in a theological experience. The louder you speak, the less it works. Look good, feel good. Then when someone asks, explain how. Well said. And they expect that quick result. Those are the crowd that one a magic pill. No magic to be found here. But when your back is against the wall, and carnivore is your last chance, as opposed to a lifetime of medication and procedures, that when there's nothing but hard work left. Like people attempting to go to the gym. They wait for motivation to carry them through, or want someone to go with them. You do these things alone, and share them with others that do the same. Yes, back up food, survival food, secondary. But in abundance....oh boy we've seen the havoc that can do on a population. Specifically when you consider that most plant foods are or poisonous, or are genetically altered to be more sugary, starchy, etc. It should not be a problem to have a bit of garlic, or an avocado, etc. it shouldn't be considered some sort of sin. What's next, the carnivore's creed? -
Letting meat sit out
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
Eggs are no problem to leave out, IF they're fresh from the farm or coup. Once they are refrigerated, don't un-refrigerate them. I give meat 2 hours, then it's going back in the fridge, a second later? I won't eat it anymore. What can I say, I am rather dull. -
Avoiding carb relapse
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
You're still here. Still sharing. You obviously haven't given up yet. Fall and get up. As long as you get up, you haven't failed, you haven't thrown anything away. -
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Changes to "Guest" ability to Start Topics or Reply
Orweller replied to Bob's topic in Announcements, Feedback, & Site Info
I've got to brush up my Russian. -
Fat is primarily used as fuel, not as storage (fat). It would be very hard to get fat by eating fat, because you'll find it almost physically impossible. With carbs on the other hand, we can easily over eat due to the signals that are send to the body. Not long after eating carbs we get signals (ghrelin hormone) that urge (trick) us to eat again. The extra carbs are then turned into fat cells in the body, a perfectly normal biochemical response. In nature, before the winter, bears gain weight by gorging on berries, the more plant-food they eat the bigger the urge becomes. This is why it's so incredibly dangerous during the fall to come across a bear. Now to answer your question, yes the body has now direct access to it's own fat storage as we are fat adapted/in ketosis. If anything, it will be the amount of protein that could stall one's weight loss process, due to insulin (yes, you got it, another hormone!) response (gluconeogenesis)when over-eating protein which can hinder fat metabolism. Now that is all cleared up, the true icing on this cake is: drink enough water! Drinking water reduces appetite, you hold on to your electrolytes, and increases lipolysis (stored fat metabolism). It's all about (bio) chemistry!
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Blue Light Issues
Orweller replied to Mesa_John's topic in Everyday Chit Chat & Off-topic Discussion
Then stop getting speeding tickets! -
"Natural flavors" OK or pass?
Orweller replied to ketomonster's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
"Natural flavors" indicate that the source of the flavor is entirely natural, as defined by the FDA. It is what is legally accepted as natural by the FDA. It doesn't mean that they are factually natural. First and foremost, "natural flavors" is a marketing term, no more no less. Natural flavors is also a loophole. Often these are extracts, oils, and yes, chemicals. It means that to derive a certain flavor, they take short cuts to obtain a certain flavor, which could be entirely different from the product it means to taste like. Natural flavors could cover a list of 100s of chemicals -yes, found in fruits and plants, etc. The term natural flavors thus covers a long list of ingredients. Often this helps to hide a trade secret, or recipe. The term natural flavors covers: The recipe/trade secret It's the cheapest way to achieve a flavor It's what is deemed natural BY THE FDA, in their OPINION To avoid having a long list of ingredients on the label The term Natural Flavors is also sexier sounding as cyanide, ethyl acetate, propenyl guaethol, etc. At the end of the day, natural flavors really mean that it is not derived from petroleum products. I think this stems from the 1970s when people were put off when they found out where their flavors truly came from. Should you quit the stuff? I think that is entirely your decision. Gather information and make that decision accordingly. -
Do you have an accountability partner?
Orweller replied to Heatman's topic in General Health and Wellness Discussion
Not I. And if I do, it's my pain and suffering from the past, my one way ticket to sickness and a wheel chair. -
I'm gonna tell my wife this. Great material, taking notes!
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There's no such thing as bad bacon! Bacon is law! Bacon is supreme! All hail bacon! End of discussion. I'll pretend this blasphemy has never occurred!
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I don't do any of the fancy stuff you're in to. I wish I was, but I haven't got the patience. Cooking is a frustrating experience for me. It simplifies my habits, I assure you. If you're worried about carcinogens then worry about Brussel sprouts. Do you want to burn your meat? No, I do not think that is beneficial either. But we often overstate carcinogens in "burned" meat but totally look the other way when concerned with such carcinogens in other foods. I just look at internal temperatures, based on whether the meat was frozen at some point or fresh from the shelf. From there, I tend to keep it simple. As for pans, I use cast iron, but I do use ceramic (with care; low heat, no damage, etc.). I use Pyrex to store food stuff in the fridge, vacuum meat for in the freezer in plastic. Once we're talking about plastic above room temperature -yes, this includes a water bottle in a hot car- I no longer consume it. Cooking at low heat is fine, a good slice of bacon always comes from low and slow. The key is, internal, safe temperatures. If you have concerns, diversify the way you cook.
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Avoiding carb relapse
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
It just goes to show that eating is culture. It goes to show, who and what you surround yourself with (willingly or unwillingly) decide eventually what you consume. And one is always late in finding out if such input was beneficial for one's health. To veer away from such influences requires hard change. No pretty way to frame this. At least, those were my findings in my own journey. I've found out also, by "giving" up such vices and behaviors, I've found that I'll be fine. I've never needed it. In my country of origin weed has always been legal, drinking was legal at 15, so was smoking. It was also an eating culture, being in proximity to France, Germany, strong eating cultures, wine and beer socially accepted and consumed, along with all the delicious foods it came with. So I can somewhat imagine the position your in, minus the diabetes; I've got my own struggles. But for me it was a hard stop, and forever. No 30 day challenge, or a new year new me, a cold stop. And it has taught me a lot about myself. -
In my book, still a carnivore diet. If 80% is meat or animal product, it is still considered hyper carnivore. It's a word game the purists came up with. I use herbs and spices, an occasional avocado, sometimes a carrot. I consider myself a carnivore, regardless. Your path is more important than words we put on ways we may eat food. Good luck.
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who "eats" butter?
Orweller replied to ketomonster's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
Just eat the fatty meats. Stay away from the lean stuff. I add some butter on the side of some dishes, but that's it. Always get enough fat. -
Avoiding carb relapse
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
The hormonal warfare on your system by weed and alcohol makes sugar look like a girl scout. The influx of estrogen has equally devastating effects as sugar. -
Avoiding carb relapse
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
It's a perfectly, purely psychological reaction to change. Keep getting back up and learn every time a bit more. You did not throw anything away. If you've had 7 days of clean eating and then you fall off hard, you've still won 7 times. Normally you would've lost 8 times. Do not tell yourself you've thrown anything away. You've got that powerful thing called awareness of your actions. When fighting addiction, you are fighting your former personality, habits, etc. A powerful foe. Get back in the ring and work on those jabs. Do not worry yourself with motivation, that is but a fair-weather fan cheering for the winner. Focus on habits, the old grizzly coach in your corner no matter what. You are a product of what you consume, who and what you surround yourself with. Ultimately that is where the change will happen. It's not about motivation, nor about discipline. None of us are that super monk from the Burmese mountain tops. Habits. Surroundings. Change of personality, the hardest part (Ask Carl Jung, rather read Carl Jung). An honorable mention, focus. All those things can be achieved without feeling "motivated". Do you feel motivated to shower? to brush your teeth? No one does. They do because it is a healthy habit we are taught by our parents. -
Welcome. I am sorry to hear about your situation, though a not surprising effect of alcohol consumption. I have a lot of respect for the fact you decided to share this with us. Not only have you been blessed with that aha moment, you've decided to research and act, and then share it with other. That by itself is a huge step right there. Alcohol is of course you first and foremost concern as it is highly toxic, far more than sugar. A superfood for cancer, diabetes, and hormone disruption. All detrimental to longevity and quality of live. But that said, I am sure you did not come here for a lecture. Nor should you feel lectured, not my intent. This is absolutely true. Ask yourself, why you made the switch and the dire consequences of NOT having made that switch. This is a tip worth its weight in gold. Still hungry? Have little meat snacks around, also, increase fat intake. Eat that porkchop with a bit of butter. Here's the kicker, chips is sugar. I used to fool myself like that. My own advice, if you do fall off the wagon, the most important step is to get back on again. I know this sounds obvious, but it is truly consistency over perfection. You're taking on a double addiction here, and mistakes will be made. See those mistakes as part of your road to success. Good luck, and ask away. A lot of knowledgeable people around. Your adaptation period may last up to two months. It's not a sprint, but a marathon, as is life.
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Ideal Weight Calculator?
Orweller replied to Geezy's topic in General Health and Wellness Discussion
There's a couple of factors to consider here. Were you on keto or carnivore in high school? Also, it's how you feel rather than what other people say. Our society is now so used to seeing fat people, that normal people are often called skinny, which I find ridiculous. That said, weight means nothing without considering body composition. It's a combination of bones, muscle, water, fat, etc. This is why it's so important to commit to weight training. Muscle tissue is heavier than fat. So one may look even leaner while weighing heavier. Muscles make all the different, not only in how we look when losing "weight", but also it is the health factor, the metabolism, that keeps us there, keeps us healthy. But yes, scale makes sense only with a good mirror, and some measuring tape. Weight alone means nothing. SO calculating weight alone is indeed silly unless you are obviously overweight. -
Yup yup, low electrolytes was the first thing I was thinking of.
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Weight loss problems
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
Track your meals on a calorie tracker. Be somewhat in the neighborhood of 70% fat or so. It's not that important. Since you're a diabetic watch your protein. Fat is not a concern for you. -
Calculating protein per day
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
Fat only makes you fat when you add sugar. Fat by itself is a far more effective fuel source than sugar (carbs) due to biochemical and hormonal response of the body. It's the combination of fat and sugar that will do the trick. Also Randle cycle. "The Randle cycle is a metabolic process that describes how the body chooses between using glucose or fatty acids for energy. It's also known as the glucose-fatty acid cycle." I would say 70% of your daily calories should be from fat, and 30% from protein. People add butter sometimes so they make sure they get enough fat. Too lean will keep you hungry and may elevate insulin levels. The fat is the fuel after all. The protein is the builder. 5% of carbs if you must, squeezed in between the aforementioned macros. I hope this clears it up. It can be very confusing. Sugar (carbs) make you fat. End of. Fat simply does not. There's a lot of propaganda out there, because there's money to be made with you being fat and sick. We have eaten less meat than ever in the history of humanity, but yet we are the fattest, the sickest people ever. We've got cavities, cancer, heart disease, liver and kidney conditions that have never been seen before with so many people. All that while our healthcare has the most technology than ever, medicine, knowledge. It's quite an eye opener, and perhaps a shock. We've all been there. -
Calculating protein per day
Orweller replied to Idunno's topic in Carnivore, Ketovore, Keto, & Low-Carb Support
Set your goal weight 10 pounds less, if you look to lose weight as well, and take these steps in 10lbs. a time.
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