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The Lion Diet is a term coined by Mikhaila Peterson, daughter of Jordan Peterson. It's the ultimate elimination diet, where you only eat ruminant animals (beef, elk, lamb, etc) with salt and only drink water. She had to get that strict in order to cure/reverse/stop several of her chronic autoimmune conditions. https://liondiet.com/ There are some carnivores into the raw meat thing. That's a no-thank-you from me though, lol.
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Good. I'm glad to hear it. Yes, it should. You can always back up to keto/ketvore and gradually increase your meat consumption and decrease your veggie consumption to help you ease into it. You're probably worried about stomach or sternum pain, which is understandable. I don't know how many meals a day you are eating, but you could also try reducing your portion sizes and adding a meal, so that you are still consuming the same amount of food just more spread out.
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Welcome Frank. Are you okay now? For possible non diet related possibilities, look over this list here... https://www.healthline.com/health/sternum-pain The last one is a doozy, so if you also are experiencing any of the following, you may want to seek medical care. Pain or discomfort in your upper body, including your arms, shoulder, and jaw. Shortness of breath, trouble breathing. Fatigue. Lightheadedness or dizziness. Racing heart. Significant cold sweat. Chest tightness. Nausea. You be the judge. I certainly don't want to scare you or give you anxiety, but I would hate to blow this off as nothing if it were actually serious. Now if it is diet related, some thoughts that come to mind are... 1) Your stomach PH levels need to adjust because you were previously eating a bunch of fatty meat. 2) Gerd, acid reflux 3) Gallbladder, Bile Production. Your gall bladder stores bile produced by the liver to assist with fat digestion. If you are not used to eating a bunch of fatty meat, this organ needs to wake up and ramp up its bile storage and output. It's normal to have digestive issues for the first month as you adapt to this new way of eating. Your body learns to produce more bile. The microbiome changes, etc. I see that you posted this yesterday. I didn't have a chance to get online yesterday. So I am curious how long did the pain last? And are you okay now?
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That’ll Keep Me Eating Good For Awhile
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
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Looks saucy. And do I spy a little hot sauce in there? I'm trying to make a return to intermittent fasting during the week. I was stuck inside doing business/office stuff in the morning, so I had my eggs and turkey sausage around 11:30am. Then left the house and worked. When I returned home I joined the Zoom call with Dr. Ken Berry MD. And when that was over I had a pound of ground beef at around 8:30 pm. I woke up 179.2 this morning! Today is fasting day, either eating at dinner for a 24-hour stint or skipping the day altogether.
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Tonight, I decided to go with fish. I had a piece of Mahi Mahi, a piece of Tilapia, and a piece of Salmon, along with an all-beef sausage link. Used some salt, butter, Old Bay seasoning, and a little garlic. Yeah, "dirty carnivore", but oh well
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Post a picture... Any picture
Bob replied to Bob's topic in Everyday Chit Chat & Off-topic Discussion
This is my current canine companion, Willow.... -
After my doctors visit I had 4 turkey sausages and 3 eggs. For dinner I had upwards of a pound of ground beef and 3 chicken breast tenderloins. None of it was very photogenic, lol. I wonder how @ol_hilly is doing
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Just a Carnivore Questions
Bob replied to Coldstomp's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
And again, it may not even be a problem. Those milk carbs could be trivial, especially if you're working out. The fat:protein in the milk is 1:1 so modifying that won't change your ratio much. -
Ironically, I started my carnivore journey in the hospital when I broke my ankle. They actually showed me a menu and I was able to order sausage, bacon, and eggs. I was in recovery post-op, and that was day 1 for me
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Just a Carnivore Questions
Bob replied to Coldstomp's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
I do think what you are currently doing is fine. I initially just used the protein number you gave me, but here is how the math works out using the links and clarifications you provided. Fat 184, Protein 174. This is almost 1:1 gram for gram. Fat calories 1656, Protein calories 696. This is 2.75 to 1 calorically speaking. I don't see many ways to change it. You could reduce butter, as it's all fat, and cut your beef in half and add another salmon patty. But I don't think you need to do any of this. I'm thinking your milk has carbs (lactose sugar) in it. If you're losing weight don't worry about it. If you stall out then maybe nix this. But if you are drinking it in the morning then you have all day to burn it off and it might not be affecting you any. -
Just a Carnivore Questions
Bob replied to Coldstomp's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Welcome aboard Drew! Have you really been carnivore since 2013? If so that is awesome. I just started myself this last spring. I still love it, but if I have it every day, I will start to tire of it. I usually try not to make the same thing for dinner two nights back-to-back. I'm the same with my morning eggs. Each morning I prepare them differently from the day before. My lunches are pretty routine though. Everything looks good to me. I tried to crunch the numbers for you real quick... 16g in the milk (according to this site) 35g in the eggs 74g in the beef (assuming ground beef 80% lean 20% fat) 23g in the butter 64g in the salmon patties (if this is the product) Total Fat - 212g per day Calorically, you're eating a 3:1 fat to protein ration, or 75:25. I've heard that, depending on your personal physiology, you should aim between 1:1 (50% of each) and 80:20. You're daily routine looks to be about 2500 calories, 1900 from fat and 600 from protein. -
The only vegetables that I can think of that I actually enjoy raw is green pepper, and cucumber, but those should be thought of as fruits, just like a tomato is acknowledged to be a fruit, and is tasty. Most fruits are, most vegetables aren't. I almost wanted to add cauliflower and broccoli to this list but then I thought about it and yeah, I would rather dip in in ranch or cook it and serve it with butter and salt. Did he? It almost sounds like he was onto this carnivore thing before you
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Eating at restaurants
Bob replied to Savannah247's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
We have 2 places near me that make an awesome seafood boil. I can be all in minus the potatoes and corn. I'll do snowcrab legs, shrimp, mussells, and scallops. I'll even do 6 or 12 raw oysters as an appetizer. Scallops are my favorite. I was buying them and making them at home regularly one week and kept gaining weight. Perplexed, I looked them up and it actually turns out that there are 7 carbs for every 3 giant sea scallops. And I was woofin' down more than 3, lol. So even though they are carnivore, they are back to occasional treat status.- 10 replies
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I got some turkey sausage and had 4 patties this morning. It wasn't satisfying so I chased it down with 6 pork sausage links, lol. For lunch I just snacked on some pork rinds because I was driving and couldn't eat the sardines I packed while in motion. For dinner, I grilled the wife and I some bone-in NY Strip steaks. She made Brussell sprouts that she wanted me to sample because she was proud of the way she made them tonight, so I had a few. Happy wife happy life
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Yes I am. I simply go by "Bob (CarnivoreTalk)" over there. If you attend his Monday Night Meat-ups, I've been on there the last 2 weeks being pretty vocal, lol.
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Yes, that definitely counts. Intermittent fasting is just a general term of switching between periods of eating and periods of fasting. The most common is daily intermittent fasting, often fasting for 16-18 hours and eating 2 meals within a 6-8 hour window. Another one is 5:2, meaning 5 days a week are normal, and 2 days a week are OMAD. Your daily OMAD would fit the description. I imagine if it goes longer, 48, 72, etc, then it's just *fasting*.
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Welcome aboard Geoff. We're glad to have you. I'm 6 months in and have had great results. I'm a believer/convert now, lol.
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Internet should be a human right?
Bob replied to Nebulous's topic in Everyday Chit Chat & Off-topic Discussion
As in "free for all"? Probably not. But I'm 47 and it's always been just another utility bill, just like cable or satellite TV. -
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So it was a no food Saturday. I broke my fast at noon today with 3 eggs and 6 sausage links. Then at 4pm the family wanted Mexican so I "cheated" on carnivore with a salad with grilled chicken and shrimp, lol. This will probably be it for me today.
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So for the last couple of weeks, I managed to do my first 24-hour fasts, both of them from Friday's dinner to Saturday's dinner. Well, this weekend I pulled off a 40 hour fast . I came home from work late on Friday and cooked a T-Bone on the grill and ate around 8pm. When it got to be 8pm on Saturday, I really didn't want to eat so late so I decided I would keep it going and if I could go to sleep my 24-hour fast would magically become a 36-hour fast come 8am. I finally made some breakfast at noon, for a total of 40 hours. Funny that just a few weeks ago, the thought of fasting more than a 16/8 intermittent fasting interval sounded almost impossible to me. Now I am thinking of making this a weekly thing.
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