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21 hours ago, pauls said:

Spoke person is Serena Williams.

She's been on them since sometime in 2024. Her husband is an investor and member of the board of Ro - a telehealth company...

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a65819594/serena-williams-weight-loss-glp1-ro/

She couldn't lose weight after birthing 2 children even though she 'ate healthy and walked 20,000-30,000 steps a day'. Of course, we don't know exactly what she was eating and if it was indeed "healthy".

But if this works for her and there are no side effects, then good for her.

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Yes. The main problem with GLP1 and SGLT2 is the lack of long term studied. They were never done a Ken Berry explains it. I suspect many high profile people are using them. Competition will increase supply and reduce prices. Insurance companies are likely not too happy right now

The big thing is that they seem to work for so many people. The drugs allow the weight loss with little to no effort. Most are looking for the easiest route forward on everything and if one has struggled with weight/obesity/health issues 'taking another pill/shot' is nothing.

Statins 'fixed' so many things for so many people. 'Asbestos' was a miracle product in all forms of construction. Seed oils were a better option than animal fats. Etc. Etc.

The only thing that really changed people's minds was time.

The GLP-1's are in their infancy and already there are some issues with bone and muscle loss. I am no medical professional but it feels like these will be the tip of the iceberg years from now.

I don't think they are for me. But with that said, if they work for someone and get them where they need to be, then so be it for them. And this is from the outside looking in, but the handful people I know using the drug are not coupling it with better eating or exercise or lifestyle type changes to make something after the drug being sustainable. In one way or another, it becomes a life-long need.

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Again, from the outside looking in as I have no personal experience.

I could see (maybe) using the drug to get the weight off and at the same time adjusting the way of eating and such to help keep the weight off. At some point not being dependent upon the drug.

I am sure if I stopped eating carnivore and went back to my dumpster diet from before I would more than likely gain the weight back, and probably add some more.

I have a guy at work who tried the carnivore diet and lost a bunch of weight and relieved some lower back issues. In time he eased back to eating like before and gained the weight back. He is now on one of the "ozempics", not sure of the brand. He was on the office phone the other day asking about having his dosage increased.

When he was off the phone, I suggested carnivore again and he said the shot was just easier.

I think that is the approach of most. "I don't have to do anything and lose weight". I also thin for the marketing departments it makes for a really easy "sell".

Scott

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