Spoke person is Serena Williams.

Tons of money pushing those products.

Scott

I wonder what they paid her??? Is also interesting she is using the drug.

I am sure it is more than I am making tonight on shift. LOL

I work near the EL plant in NC and they are expanding just to keep up. They can't make enough right now.

It's the new miracle drug.

Scott

21 hours ago, pauls said:

Spoke person is Serena Williams.

She's been on them since sometime in 2024. Her husband is an investor and member of the board of Ro - a telehealth company...

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a65819594/serena-williams-weight-loss-glp1-ro/

She couldn't lose weight after birthing 2 children even though she 'ate healthy and walked 20,000-30,000 steps a day'. Of course, we don't know exactly what she was eating and if it was indeed "healthy".

But if this works for her and there are no side effects, then good for her.

Until the definition of “healthy eating” changes we will continue to see people taking the easy way out. I’m afraid though that we are going to see a lot of people wrecking their metabolisms either these drugs.

Yes. The main problem with GLP1 and SGLT2 is the lack of long term studied. They were never done a Ken Berry explains it. I suspect many high profile people are using them. Competition will increase supply and reduce prices. Insurance companies are likely not too happy right now

The big thing is that they seem to work for so many people. The drugs allow the weight loss with little to no effort. Most are looking for the easiest route forward on everything and if one has struggled with weight/obesity/health issues 'taking another pill/shot' is nothing.

Statins 'fixed' so many things for so many people. 'Asbestos' was a miracle product in all forms of construction. Seed oils were a better option than animal fats. Etc. Etc.

The only thing that really changed people's minds was time.

The GLP-1's are in their infancy and already there are some issues with bone and muscle loss. I am no medical professional but it feels like these will be the tip of the iceberg years from now.

I don't think they are for me. But with that said, if they work for someone and get them where they need to be, then so be it for them. And this is from the outside looking in, but the handful people I know using the drug are not coupling it with better eating or exercise or lifestyle type changes to make something after the drug being sustainable. In one way or another, it becomes a life-long need.

Scott

Perhaps. I do not know but have heard if u come off the drug. The weight comes right back. So someone has to keep paying.

Again, from the outside looking in as I have no personal experience.

I could see (maybe) using the drug to get the weight off and at the same time adjusting the way of eating and such to help keep the weight off. At some point not being dependent upon the drug.

I am sure if I stopped eating carnivore and went back to my dumpster diet from before I would more than likely gain the weight back, and probably add some more.

I have a guy at work who tried the carnivore diet and lost a bunch of weight and relieved some lower back issues. In time he eased back to eating like before and gained the weight back. He is now on one of the "ozempics", not sure of the brand. He was on the office phone the other day asking about having his dosage increased.

When he was off the phone, I suggested carnivore again and he said the shot was just easier.

I think that is the approach of most. "I don't have to do anything and lose weight". I also thin for the marketing departments it makes for a really easy "sell".

Scott

On 2/10/2026 at 4:00 PM, pauls said:

Perhaps. I do not know but have heard if u come off the drug. The weight comes right back.

Which is predictable. How many of us went on a "diet" throughout our lives, lost weight, and then went off the diet and gained it back. By far the vast majority of us have yo-yo dieted or gained the weight back plus some.

These GLP-1 users, if they don't change their eating habits, and stop using the drug will only see the same thing happen to them.

On 2/10/2026 at 6:16 PM, Scott F. said:

I could see (maybe) using the drug to get the weight off and at the same time adjusting the way of eating and such to help keep the weight off. At some point not being dependent upon the drug.

This is exactly how it should be used if it is going to be used at all. I have no issue with a low-dose GLP-1 to get someone started, but they have to learn to eat right and commit to not eating the ultra-processed junk foods. The goal being to get off the GLP-1 but then continue to lose or maintain weight with true healthy eating (all natural, mostly ketogenic).

It's akin to bariatric surgery. This often results in great weight loss for many individuals. But at the same time many others go back to eating junk, and while they cannot eat as large of a meal, they eat more often throughout the day. I know people who had weight-loss surgery and initially saw success, but are not morbidly obese and dependent on a motorized wheelchair. They just couldn't learn to change their eating habits.

I work with a guy who had one of the gastric surgeries and lost 200+ pounds and kept it off for a couple years and then........

He ballooned to well over 400lbs over the next few years. A couple years ago he had a second surgery but before hand he had to attend all these classes and lose X amount of weight via the plan. He did so, has had the surgery and this time appears to be doing as he should.

We have another person who uses one of the GLP drugs and initially lost a lot of weight, then stalled and gained some back, but in turn asked the doctor (and received) an increased dosage.

It's like, "the first pill is so I can lower my blood sugar but I eat the second pill so I can eat the cake too".

Again, no personal experience but that is what it looks like from this side of the fence looking over. I could be wrong.

Scott

The dosage of a GLP1 for blood sugar control (will loose a few pounds) and the dose for weight loss are about 4x÷.

Bigger dose is more possible side effects. My body does not like several drugs. All of the diabetic drugs, oral or injections, Have not worked for me mostly due to bad side effects.

I continue on Zero Carb eating and insulin. And Increasing my exercise.

Will se that things look like at the end of this first 3 months.

Nearly all weight loss methods work to some extent but unless it becomes a lifestyle you will fail on it.

I sort of think they all diets work and then all diets fail.

Success is in the lifestyle change.

On 2/14/2026 at 11:45 AM, Geezy said:

Nearly all weight loss methods work to some extent but unless it becomes a lifestyle you will fail on it.

On 2/14/2026 at 2:58 PM, Scott F. said:

I sort of think they all diets work and then all diets fail.

Success is in the lifestyle change.

Indeed! There are people who weren't disciplined enough to stick to carnivore OR were lacking accurate knowledge and therefore doing carnivore wrong that they go off of it and then declare 'carnivore failed me' which probably was not the case at all.